Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[MagneticTowels]

It'd get banned from discussion practically everywhere, experience the same DDoS and tortious interference the Farms itself suffers, and be mercilessly attacked by practically every faggot in FOSS who learns of it. You'd spend more time arguing with morons than writing code or building binaries.

Not if we keep development off the mainstream sites.

 

[pyrinyx]

This is hilarious to me. Canonical has been dogsshit for years and they have taken Ubuntu down with it. They know people are picking better distros so this is them seemingly shitting the bed.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

You really have to love our choices of OS these days. One is JeetOS, another is only if you buy their hardware at a huge markup and is more closed than a nun's legs, and the only other realistic alternative is made by troons and pedos.

I'm this close to reinstalling DOS/WfW 3.1.1 or System 7.1. I don't see why anyone would need more than that anyway.

640k 4 lyfe!

 

[moocow]

Not if we keep development off the mainstream sites.

KF is already not a mainstream site. People have gone after null's hosting, domain registrar, ICANN, payment processors, bank accounts, fucking IP blocks, data centers, upstream (tier 1) connectivity providers -- you name it, they've attacked it. The entire fucking world literally expended less effort trying to take down the Pirate Bay (legally and illegally) than some random pile of tranny faggots have tried to kill KF.

They'd give Kiwi Linux the same treatment. Not that that's a reason not to build it anyway, but I'm just making you aware of the challenges.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Licensed under GPL v3 + nigger

KNL v1

Kiwi Nigger License, it only has 5 clauses

1. If you're a Nigger, you can't use this software.

2. If you're a Faggot, you can't use this software.

3. If you're a Troon, you can't use this software.

4. If you're a Pedo, you can't use this software.

4. If you're a LOLCow, you can only use this software if you have never sued Null.

 

[Northern Blockhead]

So Canonical replied to Lunduke. Long story short, Jeremy Bicha disclosed his criminal record upon hire. Canonical always knew he was a serial child molester. Canonical implies that this is okay since it wasn't a computer or fraud related crime. Ignoring the liability of having a registered sex offender represent your company, especially at conferences, which are a big part of being a professional FOSS person. Crazy.

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I can't even, the edit: Imagine all the times we've heard about how political opinions create unsafe work environments, but not a chomo? Come on. Would you leave your kid, or really anyone with that guy? Of fucking course not. Chomos are constant re-offenders. Chomos get out and immediately run out to a park to molest a kid, happens all the fucking time. No mental gymnastics needed, everyone instinctively understands this guy needs constant direct supervision because if you relax he might just try to rape you with a dildo. That's not a safe workplace, sorry. What is your HR team doing? This is lawsuit fuel. It's perfectly reasonable to feel unsafe around a serial child molester, and juries would agree.

Ubuntu is fucking cooked.

 

[volatile puar]

KF is already not a mainstream site. People have gone after null's hosting, domain registrar, ICANN, payment processors, bank accounts, fucking IP blocks, data centers, upstream (tier 1) connectivity providers -- you name it, they've attacked it. The entire fucking world literally expended less effort trying to take down the Pirate Bay (legally and illegally) than some random pile of tranny faggots have tried to kill KF.

They'd give Kiwi Linux the same treatment. Not that that's a reason not to build it anyway, but I'm just making you aware of the challenges.

Development would not be difficult, assuming there are enough people willing and able to work on it, it could easily be done on a mailing list or even through a dedicated Kiwifarms thread or board. The question is whether you could find a hosting solution robust enough to allow it to be a usable distro. Maybe having a few mirrors gated behind Kiwiflare would be enough, but I can't say.

 

[moocow]

Kiwi Nigger License, it only has 5 clauses

"If you immediately noticed #4 appears twice, you're autistic as fuck, and are welcome to contribute code anytime!"

I found my in!

 

[Cuckoman]

In one of the videos, Lunduke says he has more names of predators. So Bicha could just be the first, unlucky for sperging about Nazis.

Looking forward to it. I hope the jew will milk every single last drop of content.

 

[volatile puar]

KNL v1

Kiwi Nigger License, it only has 5 clauses

1. If you're a Nigger, you can't use this software.

2. If you're a Faggot, you can't use this software.

3. If you're a Troon, you can't use this software.

4. If you're a Pedo, you can't use this software.

4. If you're a LOLCow, you can only use this software if you have never sued Null.

I hate to be Mr. Serious here, but if the Kiwifarms actually tried to use this as a license for a Linux distribution, it would violate the GPL v2 of Linux and I guarantee you that the project would get sued by Linus Torvalds with the full weight of the Linux Foundation.

 

[monk]

Do you think there is any difference in scale and gravity between saying nigger on the Internet and habitually molesting and raping multiple children? Just curious. I personally think there is a meaningful difference between those two things. That's my opinion.

With the amount of TTD, TKD, TND et cetera that the far right shouts, I'm sure they would be out on the streets doing all that they shout, were they not held back by the current system that prevents them. Based? I'm not a proponent of RWDS, I believe in due process and justice. For the most vile offenders, I agree with the death penalty, but there should be a due process, otherwise it turns into all-out slaughter with innocent people caught in the crossfire. I come from an ex-communist country where communists (jews or jew cocksuckers) mass murdered entire Christian families and towns and threw them into caves, then tried to cover it up by backfilling the caves in hope they don't get discovered. After the people revolted and overthrew the commies, they started finding these mass burial sites. But the commies got partly back in power and there's been a fight about the proper burial or even addressing the existence of these mass burial sites in the public for the last 20 years. My point is, imagine if that were the right-wing that did all that, they would get such a huge backlash that the pendulum would swing so far to the left that the right would be doomed for the next 100 years, like happened with the Nazis and post-ww2 germany.
There are unjust murderous elements in both the left and right, and I don't agree with either them. I would be fine if they both went at each other and snuffed each other out though, leaving the non-psycho people to keep living.

I think the samesideism cannot be invoked when you moving on spectrum to righteousness from whatever is the opposite of righteousness.
It's the same way with violence - some is bad, some is good when it's for the right cause.


I never mentioned those things, but sure


No, when I said "liable", I meant that from the moral standpoint.

Both sides believe they're righteous, and believe that the opposite side is not righteous. They differ in their interpretation of what good and bad is. I don't think this is the place to be discussing moral relativism.
I still think companies shouldn't be liable in any way for a person's life, because that would turn them into a sort of court that weighs a person's morals and punishes him. We have the justice system for that. If you disagree with the punishment he got for what he did, that's another thing, the laws and punishments could be changed. But it's not the job of a company to dish out punishment for what a person has already been punished for in the past and has served his sentence.

Ok, let's take is as given that they're equivalent situations. The man "did his time" for repeatedly raping his sister, so he's got a right to be left alone. It is, however, inevitable that people will be angry about the fact that he raped his teenage sister multiple times and he must be aware of that possibility.

In that situation, should he:

1) keep his head down, avoid visibility, stay as quiet as possible, and avoid placing himself in any situation where his past will come back to haunt him,
2) make a spectacle of himself on the internet by needlessly inserting himself into a politically charged debate that has a great deal of public visibility

The fact is, he brought this on himself, regardless of whether or not we should treat him with "respect" or whatever. He tried to use his position within Canonical as a club to beat down someone for their opinions about something. He cannot now complain - nor should anyone else on his behalf complain - about being "cancelled". He is simply facing the same sort of treatment he attempted to mete out to someone else.

Yes, he brought it on himself, and Canonical would be completely correct in firing him, but not for a crime he's already served time for, but for being a dick in the FOSS community that the company is supposed to be positively contributing to. By attacking an independent project that did nothing to attack him, he shows he's acting hatefully and spitefully, wanting to harm the project, which Canonical should disagree with. The fact that Canonical didn't fire him after that shows more about Canonical's politics regarding XLibre than his pedo past.

Castration doesn't work. Castrated pedos still offend. Rather than cut off their balls, we should cut off their head.

The difference is that there is a clear definition of pedophile that isn't just "person I dislike." Yes, companies should not be held liable for what their employees have done in their personal life, but I'm willing to make an exception here not only because it was abhorrent and violent sexual abuse but also because they knew this and still hired him anyway.

Literally just don't fuck kids, and don't rape. How hard could it be?



This is harm reduction at best because Microsoft is pozzed with DIE too.

As I said above, in the western law system, justice is dished out by the courts, not by mobs. You could argue that the laws are unjust, or that the justice system mimics mob rule, or anything like that, but it's at least somewhat accountable. De facto mob rule is unaccountable and is the wild west with numerous mobs fighting and killing each other.

Normally, I would agree with you. I don't mind if someone that does good work is a weird freak in their off time, but he's not just some weird freak.
He isn't doing mushrooms and having forest orgies, he hasn't turned himself into a lizard with extreme plastic surgery, and he isn't getting off to shoving glass jars up his ass. He, at the age of twelve, was molesting his nine year old sister, for 3+ years, and she isn't his only victim!
Even if you were to take all ethics and morality out of the equation and view things from a purely utilitarian viewpoint, his mental sickness is still so extreme that he cannot be trusted to have anyone's best interest in mind.

See my points about the justice system above. You and I are entitled to think what we want, and we're allowed to have our politicians change the laws to punish crimes as we want, but we shouldn't dish out punishments ourselves, such would be unaccountable.

I'm ignorant wrt gentoo, but couldn't we just do an "overlay" or something with all the bespoke use flags and custom binary repos?

I probably butchered the fuck out of that.

Anyway you can use Artix with dinit, xlibre, seatd and turnstile to kick as much of the freedesktop cancer to the curb.

Overlays are just repositories. Functionally there's no difference between a repository and overlay, the latter is just a name for an unofficial repository. Consequently, repositories don't dictate Portage configuration, the user configures Portage himself. AFAIK there's no system to "ship" Portage configuration or package it. With the amount of USE flags and inter-dependent USE flag requirements (package A depends on package B with use flag X, and so on) it would be a challenge to provide such configuration packages that don't conflict with an user's already chosen configurations. Possible but not trivial. You could have a configuration package injected into dispatch-conf and have the user review each configuration change and accept or reject it. It would be much easier to make a customized stage3+ (stage4) with Catalyst with your configs pre-loaded, it would be equivalent to a Gentoo-derivative distro.

 

[147573952589676412927]

So Canonical replied to Lunduke. Long story short, Jeremy Bicha disclosed his criminal record upon hire.

I've been following the open source shit, intensely actually, and it's extremely infuriating to me. All I wanted to do was use good, free, software, I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Debian foundation has a history of people just dying, some were obviously pushed to suicide. Which was the first thing that pushed me away from debian and by proxy ubuntu in the first place, I didn't even know about this shit. I find these days that the amount of software you need to run a complete system that isn't also associated with some pedo, sex weirdo, abuser, etc. is shrinking by the day. What, they couldn't get control of gaming and the government so FOSS is their new fucking breeding grounds? Fuck, I'm sorry to piss-post but it just fucking pisses me off so much. Fuck these people. Fuck.

 

[monk]

You really have to love our choices of OS these days. One is JeetOS, another is only if you buy their hardware at a huge markup and is more closed than a nun's legs, and the only other realistic alternative is made by troons and pedos.

I'm this close to reinstalling DOS/WfW 3.1.1 or System 7.1. I don't see why anyone would need more than that anyway.

640k 4 lyfe!

I've been following the open source shit, intensely actually, and it's extremely infuriating to me. All I wanted to do was use good, free, software, I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Debian foundation has a history of people just dying, some were obviously pushed to suicide. Which was the first thing that pushed me away from debian and by proxy ubuntu in the first place, I didn't even know about this shit. I find these days that the amount of software you need to run a complete system that isn't also associated with some pedo, sex weirdo, abuser, etc. is shrinking by the day. What, they couldn't get control of gaming and the government so FOSS is their new fucking breeding grounds? Fuck, I'm sorry to piss-post but it just fucking pisses me off so much. Fuck these people. Fuck.

There are lots of choices if you don't use the Web(tm). If you go back to basic text-mode communication, there's plenty of simpler and arguably more secure hardware and software. The hard thing is encryption cause you need a shitton of computing power to do it. It would be possible to make your own crypto ASIC, say with a FPGA, connect it to a simple 8-bit handmade TTL CPU, feed it text and get back encrypted data it just sends on the network. I'm not aware of anyone doing that already though.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Canonical: "Wow, you know what. Our employee may have been convicted for over a thousand counts of child rape. But at least he respects Codes of Conduct."

And that's the thing, if their argument was about second chances and rehabilitation of even the worst criminals, they'd at least have some ground to stand on (albeit with controversy). But no, they covered it up while also trying to going after anyone else they perceived as their enemies.

 

[ChooChooChooseMe]

Forget this mess. I'm sticking with OS/2 Warp

 

[2 Girls 1 Jar]

Honestly this opens my eyes further to how FOSS is no better than companies that want your money to use their product, and in this case, worse. They want you to pay for security updates as they shortern the list of benefits from one version to the next so they can claim they "have longer support than before" but each iteration of Ubuntu adds less and less and the standard support gets shorter and shorter.
They have more political and just general bias than any corporation, at least other companies have to listen to the market while these guys are un-boycottable unless there is a huge cut in donations.
Such a shame the mainstays of the Linux and FOSS communities have gone from a minority of furry degen pedo apologist fags to being the majority. Most people that have the brain to do these things have gone into the trades/engineering because they aren't autistic to do this work for nothing, many will be future millionares.
Oh well, time to move to a different OS, any ideas?

I've been happy with Linux Mint for the past few years. Honestly the first distro I've used that feels like it gives a damn about user experience. It's downstream of Ubuntu but they remove all the cancerous shit like snapware. Still on X11 too.

There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition which fully cuts Canonical out of the picture, but I've never used it.

 

[Betonhaus]

I've been happy with Linux Mint for the past few years. Honestly the first distro I've used that feels like it gives a damn about user experience. It's downstream of Ubuntu but they remove all the cancerous shit like snapware. Still on X11 too.

There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition which fully cuts Canonical out of the picture, but I've never used it.

I find LMDE to be decent but it's missing some of the quality of life improvements like the driver manager

 

[David Brown]

With the amount of TTD, TKD, TND et cetera that the far right shouts, I'm sure they would be out on the streets doing all that they shout, were they not held back by the current system that prevents them. Based? I'm not a proponent of RWDS, I believe in due process and justice. For the most vile offenders, I agree with the death penalty, but there should be a due process, otherwise it turns into all-out slaughter with innocent people caught in the crossfire. I come from an ex-communist country where communists (jews or jew cocksuckers) mass murdered entire Christian families and towns and threw them into caves, then tried to cover it up by backfilling the caves in hope they don't get discovered. After the people revolted and overthrew the commies, they started finding these mass burial sites. But the commies got partly back in power and there's been a fight about the proper burial or even addressing the existence of these mass burial sites in the public for the last 20 years. My point is, imagine if that were the right-wing that did all that, they would get such a huge backlash that the pendulum would swing so far to the left that the right would be doomed for the next 100 years, like happened with the Nazis and post-ww2 germany.
There are unjust murderous elements in both the left and right, and I don't agree with either them. I would be fine if they both went at each other and snuffed each other out thoug

Bro you wrote all that shit and did not answer my question in any way. I think that communism rubbed off on you more than you'd like to admit.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I'm not going to recap the entire Starsector mod drama (it's in the Starsector thread if you're interested), I just want to clarify for anyone who reads this and has no idea what is being referenced that the devs of Starsector DID NOT add malware to their game. It was a mod author who added save-destroying code to mods they were maintaining.

Sorry, I edited to be more clear, it was the mod authors that freaked out (President Matt Daemon)

I am REALLY surprised that Canonical is standing up for this guy, because corporations usually fold instantly when it's revealed that one of their employees isn't squeaky clean. Remember those fellows some years back that made some "dongle jokes" at a tech conference? They were immediately sacked. It's really odd to see a corporation saying "well, the crimes weren't THAT bad...".

It's also sad to see the amount of people that take a decidedly apolitical thing, like a windowing system for *nix and turn it into an "unacceptable ideology" and reject it for political reasons.

I feel like Canonical is trying to play both sides of this. The retard chomo is just the bad cop and cannonical is trying to play the reasonable good cop.

"Who care's if he's a sex offender! Only meritocracy in code matters!"
"Ebil Nahtzeee reeeee! How dare you violate the COC!"

Ironically, this does nothing but push people towards actual NSDAP policies... Like chomos being pink triangled, declared lebensunwertes leben and then set in concentration camps and worked to death.

UNDER 12? I thought it might have been something like "I was 20 and she was at a party and I thought she was 18 but she was really 16" I mean, obviously that's still bad, but not "immediate execution and buried in a mass grave" bad.

Mistake of age is not a defense in most states, even if she provides you a false ID. Those states that do provide a mistake of age defense generally have a lower limit (say like age 13), because you should be able to tell a teenager apart from a child.

That being said, this guy is of the violent sadist psychopath variety and should be put down or shipped out to Guantanamo bay.

 

[duddBwyer]

I LITERALLY JUST SWITCHED FROM MINT TO UBUNTU LAST WEEK FML