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[Captain Syrup]

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

WB wants Joker so bad but can’t double dip, so The Prankster is perfect.

 

[The Nothingness]

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

WB wants Joker so bad but can’t double dip, so The Prankster is perfect.

Or Toyman if he wears a dollhead mask like the animated series version.

 

[That Chris Guy]

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

Brainiac is not out of the question. He might even make him absolutely shit like MCU Ultron.

But this is James Gunn here, and he needs at least 4 other villains to take part. So Luthor, Zodd, Doomsday, and Brightburn so he can jerk off to his own greatness, I guess.

 

[GlupShitto]

Okay this was the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen. I'm shocked people are racing about it. The entire film had this headache inducing fuzz over it that constantly distracted me from what was going on, all the CGI looked terrible, they pushed the Z lister brilliant nigger as the real hero of the movie (in my many years of life and even back when I read comic books, I'd never met a single Mr Terrific fan), Lois was a total bitch, and the entire film was James Gunn seething over people owning him on Twitter. I liked the Jimmy stuff, though.

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

It's pretty obvious that Ultraman is supposed to become Bizarro in the next movie, with that black hole either simply disfiguring him or actually sending him to Bizarro World. But with this shaping up to be a legendary box office bomb, we're never going to see a sequel. James Gunn's DC Universe is done for (and hopefully capeshit as a whole).

 

[That Chris Guy]

It's pretty obvious that Ultraman is supposed to become Bizarro in the next movie, with that black hole either simply disfiguring him or actually sending him to Bizarro World. But with this shaping up to be a legendary box office bomb, we're never going to see a sequel. James Gunn's DC Universe is done for (and hopefully capeshit as a whole).

Ultraman being in this film means there's probably no Earth-3, which is a shame.

I plan to see it on less-than-legal channels, but I'll give it a fair shake and watch some of the previous Superman films before discussing it.

 

[GlupShitto]

Ultraman being in this film means there's probably no Earth-3, which is a shame.

I plan to see it on less-than-legal channels, but I'll give it a fair shake and watch some of the previous Superman films before discussing it.

I suspect the plan (which I doubt will be realized beyond what's already completed) is to avoid multiverse stuff altogether. The biggest tell imo is that they're using the post-Crisis take on the JSA where they're the old timey heroes (which honestly I've never liked, but that's because I was a huge fan of Golden and Silver Age Flash stuff as a kid)

 

[Eventide]

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

Since Luther's Pocket Dimension/Universe thing was a major plot point in the new film, anyone else think the shapeshifting Matrix pink goo Supergirl (ifykyk) might pop up as a villain? Especially since, canonically, she used to bang Lex.

Spoiler: she was made of pink goo

She originally was Lana Lang from a Pocket Universe of Smallville that Lex Luthor created to trick Superman. Superman brought her out of said dimension, gave her to his parents who nursed her back to health in Smallville, she took the form of a blonde bombshell for some reason, called herself Supergirl and started to bang Lex. It gets waaay more complicated, so I'll just leave out the merging with a lesbian sacrificed by a Satanic Cult 80 issue comic series where she also became a literal biblical angel

 

[Humble Architect]

Shame we aren’t getting the Earth-3 retards. They are the OG and greatest evil Justice League, also hilarious in just how fucked up they are, to the point where “The Boys” tv show just aped some of their best bits. Like outside the core three, the rest are bumbling idiots, usually too stupid or sadistic for their own good, all are terrified of Ultraman, Ultraman being very creepy with normal Lois, the question of Superwoman’s baby, etc. Gunn knows about them too, Brightburn is the Ultraman movie. Honestly, with Hoult being the highest paid, they could get the most of their investment and do Forever Evil, you want “wholesome boy and his dog,” that event was all about that.

Their best iteration is the animated version, “Crisis on Two Earths” is animated gold.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

So who will the villain in the sequel be, Zod or Doomsday? Because Luthor, Zod, and Doomsday are the only Superman villains that exist in movies.

It baffles me that we still haven't gotten a live-action Superman with Brainiac as the antagonist. He's like the go-to Superman villain in literally everything else DC-related like cartoons, video games, books, etc, but live-action seems to avoid him like the plague. What gives?

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

It baffles me that we still haven't gotten a live-action Superman with Brainiac as the antagonist. He's like the go-to Superman villain in literally everything else DC-related like cartoons, video games, books, etc, but live-action seems to avoid him like the plague. What gives?

Hollywood doesn’t really care about Superman. Superman fans got lucky with Donner, but once he was kicked off, every director following him seems to have little interest or warped interest in the character, usually resulting in them just aping Donner.

We did almost get Brainiac with Superman Lives, but that production was a disaster and never saw the light of day.

 

[GlupShitto]

This is why he's my favorite supervillian. Lex Luthor is really the most interesting dude around. He's the smartest guy ever with unlimited resources so everything he does is insane but with a consistent logic. And it's like a funny normal guy logic. What would you do if you could do anything? Create the perfect woman. Go rule over a planet as their benevolent God. Go fuck around in other universes just to see what's over there.

Yeah, I love Lobo, but I sort of think a monkey could make a good faithful Lobo movie. It's basically impossible to fuck up unless they just make a movie set in the DC Universe called Lobo about some entirely other guy.

I'm now half expecting it to be a New 52 Lobo movie

 

[GlupShitto]

I wish that the movie ended by revealing that not Palestine actually was evil all along and maybe having them try to nuke the US, making Superman realize that not every victim is a good guy and that not every victim deserves divine protection.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Mikey O'Leary of IGN can't wait to see the new Superman movie and give it a good review because it's super woke. Coming from IGN, you just can't spell IGNORANT without the IGN.

Off-topic, there was a brief time when IGN didn't suck but that time ended back in 2001.

 

[Mystery Spy]

I’ll give James Gunn the edge because he understands the character more than Zack Snyder ever did. His Superman is better than Man of Steel because Gunn actually gets who Superman is.

That said, the movie feels too comic-booky—and not in a good way. It’s bloated with characters, has a dumb villain plot, lore only people familiar with the source material will understand, and yet another silly Lex Luthor (once again wasting an actor who’s much better in serious roles).

The "Justice Gang" characters were exactly what you'd expect: just there to set up future movies MCU-style, easily forgettable, and could’ve been cut without losing anything. People will get mad at that take, but there’s nuance. In a vacuum, some—like Nathan Fillion’s Guy Gardner—did well. But in a Superman movie? Why are they sharing the Spotlight? Gunn, yet again, wastes time promoting C-listers instead of focusing on making you care about the main character.

Honestly, he should’ve focused more on the Daily Planet cast instead of Metamorpho, who isn’t even a Superman character.

It’s an obvious overcorrection from Snyder—Gunn tried hard to make this family-friendly. To be fair, he got a lot right, like Krypto and the clear DCAU inspirations. The ultra man fights and Superman actually caring about saving people are steps in the right direction.

I agree that the Palestine and social media allegories sucked. It’s painfully obvious Gunn is using Superman to vent about his Twitter beefs.

People starved for a hopeful Superman will eat this up. And with so many evil Supermen lately, there’s clearly a demand for it.

But the plot still feels undercooked and unfocused. Yeah, it's better than the Arrowverse’s Supergirl cringe and Snyder’s take—but it’s still nowhere near the best live-action or animated versions of Superman. The DCAU is still untouchable.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

People will get mad at that take, but there’s nuance. In a vacuum, some—like Nathan Fillion’s Guy Gardner—did well. But in a Superman movie? Why are they sharing the Spotlight? Gunn, yet again, wastes time promoting C-listers instead of focusing on making you care about the main character.

James Gunn literally made his name promoting C-list characters. Nobody had even heard of or gave a shit about the Guardians of the Galaxy until he directed their movie - now everyone is chasing that irreverent, scrappy, knockabout vibe and, to this day, every other movie trailer features an 'ironic' pop song from the '70s as a result.

That would make him an excellent choice for someone like Guy Gardner or Mister Terrific - obscure characters nobody really cares about or gets too precious over - but Superman? Gunn's name shouldn't have ever even been mentioned in the same conversation as a Superman movie. Superman is an internationally recognised icon - not just a household name, but arguably the codifier for the modern concept of a superhero as most people understand it - who brings with him expectations about how such a character speaks and behaves, and the things he stands for. That's not a character Gunn, with his signature offbeat, quirky, oddball style, is suited for.

That Warner Bros bet the farm on him to be their Kevin Feige and deliver them their own version of the MCU suggests to me that that company is run by people who fundamentally fail to understand the intellectual properties under their control.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Not sure where else to post this, but would you say that right-wingers are having a problem with the direction of the new Superman, like this guy claims?

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Not sure where else to post this, but would you say that right-wingers are having a problem with the direction of the new Superman, like this guy claims?

Steve Shives?
Holy fuck, did Superman fly around the world superfast and take us back to literally 2015?

 

[el bandito loco]

My hood nigga friends went and saw it. I didn't go because I picked up a shift to cover the fact I skipped work to go the other day, but I met up with them after I got off, I wish I had went again with them after talking to them about it because I can tell they had a great time and are of course funnier than the movie was trying to be.

Most of them felt like I did, where they kinda liked it and hated it in equal measure. Some of the commentary they gave I noted was as follows.

Spoiler: black thoughts on superman

"That boy lex luthor ran his clone operation like an NFL head coach with the earpiece and everything. Bald ass Tony Dungy ass nigga lex luthor"
"shoulda had that nigga controlling ultra man with a Playstation controller or a fight stick since they doing street fighter combos and shit"
"superman or superbitch or whoever the fuck's dog that was, needed to be taken on a walk or trained or something by those robots. he was unhelpful as all hell. where the fuck was Mike Vic when you need him? He'd had that little ugly fucker a warrior"
"that shit had the worst hair on niggas ive ever seen in the same movie. superman, green lantern, and whoever the fuck that dictator dude were lookin' like a got damn disaster, those niggas are all public figures how the fuck they comfortable leaving their house lookin busted"
"Jimmy Olsen a real nigga. Boy was like 20 and you could see in his eyes that nigga was tired. Fuckin with bad hoes like that worse than an 80 hour work week for a niggas health and mental stability"
"superman saved that fuckin squirrel, but right afterwards didnt help them fight whatever the fuck that thing was out the window so he could go whine to a bitch before he left to get treated like a nigga by super police"
"bro real shit they kept talmbout a superman harem and if i could do that shit you already know i wouldnt need my dad to tell me id have spread super seed all over this motherfucker"
"that baby was fucked up. I wouldnt have saved that fucked ass thing. his dad was a nasty lookin mf too the worst part of the movie was I had to look at them for 20 minutes"
"I was like damn lex shot that dude in the face, superman was sad af bc he probably gave him free hot dogs or somethin"
"why the fuck did everyone at his job get in that space ship in the end? No fr what the fuck did they need to do in there?" (I couldn't figure this out either, I guess just to stay safe that's what we decided on)
"how the FUCK we get a movie where superman fights like 50 guys in lex war suits at once and the fight was 30 seconds long? That shit was so gay. He got his ass kicked in the beginning, didnt do shit against the godzilla, got his ass kicked in the prison, I was like awwwww shiiiiiet here we fuckin go this nigga gonna get mad and fuckin GO boy let's see motherfuckin KAL EL in this BITCH and then he didnt do shit but make a tornado. Shit, nigga even got his ass kicked by himself. Henry Cavill would have handed every single one of these niggas he fights in this movie their own ass"
"shoulda named that nigga Mr. Terrific Mr. Complain cuz that nigga was grumpy"

the rest of the discussion was mostly autistic nigga lore discussions and wasn't really anything to note here. They were basically all just disappointed ultraman wasn't ultraman and didnt really do anything cool.

 

[Incecticyder]

Steve Shives?
Holy fuck, did Superman fly around the world superfast and take us back to literally 2015?

If that is the case... QUICK! TO THE ZOO!! WE HAVE A GORILLA TO SAVE!!! IT WILL SAVE THE TIMELINE!!!!

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

"I was like damn lex shot that dude in the face, superman was sad af bc he probably gave him free hot dogs or somethin"

Superman's little Pajeet friend who got shot ("IT WAS A GREAT HONOUR TO HAVE YOU EAT MY FALAFEL, SOOPAARMAN SAAR!") made me think of this bit from Burnt Face Man.