US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[DoomsdayElite]

She was also the Florida AG when Epstein skated the first time, and was the one who pushed to ruin ZimmZamm's life because he had the audacity to defend himself from a crazed nigger. I hope she gets torn apart by dogs, personally.

All the business with the Epstein stuff confirmed what I'd already started to suspect-that she's just enamored with the title of AG, and never intended to do anything of substance.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I don't get it. If this is the level of professionalism we expect from a first-world country, we are doomed. Please rationalize to me the point of this sort of posting. Also rationalize to me why Trump backtracking to the Epstein files is a good thing despite his assurance of government corruption being exposed to the wild. If not, you're just as bad as me with Hillary Clinton.

From my POV the whole concept of professionalism and maturity in politics went out of the window a long, long time ago when politics stopped being approached as an important, solemn duty and just as a sort of stepping stone for self-enrichment and celebrity; mass media also helping to pull back on this illusion is what spiralled us here, probably. Maybe professionalism in the white house died when LBJ took his dick out every opportunity, or maybe it was Reagan's Star Wars and jelly beans obsession, or it could've been Clinton receiving oral sex in the Oval Office.

It doesn't help that the right-wing gets ostracised for not maintaining the air of political decorum people expect of politicians, yet the Left's general ridiculousness in how their wing comports themselves when they don't get what they want (Protests; riots; generally throwing tantrums implicit or explicit) and their politician's contrarianism in spite of sense ("Hug a Chinese person day" during early Covid, touted by the likes of Pelosi since she didn't want to close the borders) that this little tincture of memery on Twitter doesn't seem so bad.

Another angle to consider: who's more likely going to see this tweet? Young people, who are receptive to this sort of thing, or old people who are less likely to see it? This sort of humour and general chicanery appeals more to younger people who've become gradually more estranged from politics and are baffled more and more every day by the complete lack of action they perceive from their leaders, who themselves give the impression it's not to be taken seriously as they don't seem to take serious approaches to issues that matter. What does a veneer of professionalism matter when it's blatantly obvious it's just that: a veneer. Beneath it we see a lot of deeply uncaring, selfish people who, even with the right language and presentation, can't hide what has become very transparent to people over the decades - especially to the more cynical youngsters.

I suppose a microcosm of the youth's changing outlook on politics, both left and right, is how they're campaigning and haranguing over issues that won't become reality until a decade or two from now if left alone. For the Left, it's climate change; for the Right, it's changing demographics.

TLDR: 1. It's online, so the only people who care about professionalism (older people) are less likely to see it. 2. "Professionalism" is irrelevant in the modern day if the "right image" doesn't actually translate into appreciable action. 3. The Left-wing started it, the Right is catching up; immaturity and humour appeals to a cynical youth.

Edit: Regarding the Epstein thing, isn't there a whole procedure/separation of powers thing there? Trump can't tell the FBI to release shit it doesn't claim to have and if he accuses them of lying I don't know what implications that'd hold and whether he actually force them do anything.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Seriously though, my entire life growing up to now, I've never heard a good thing regarding Rosie O'Donnell. Not in media, not in news, not from anybody. I think she was even in a movie once? But yea, it's like nobody wants this bitch around, ever.

The thing is, i don't even know wtf she even does. It's like she just exists.

Her most notorious achievement was spoiling the twist/ending of ‘Fight Club’ on her talk show, causing potentially millions in lost ticket sales, just because she didn’t like a movie about heterosexual white male social dislocation.

 

[Justsomecicada]

People legit thought that legalizing pot would mean brown people stop getting arrested for slinging dope, when it actually just means consolidation of the cannabis business into large, international corporations, and the brown people just find other crimes to commit.

In most state where it’s legal they wrote the regulation in such a way that without being rich or a large large company your fucked. The only places with boutique cannabis storefronts are New Hampshire and Maine everyone else was regulated or taxed to death.

It’s really sad because during the boom it lifted a lot of people into the middle class and created a lot of jobs in my state. Good jobs too for small holding farmers, artisans, bakers, craftsmen and machinists etc. it looks like that’s gonna disappear largely

This one of the last businesses too where nearly all the Equipment is made in America, also disappearing.

 

[The Nothingness]

Seriously though, my entire life growing up to now, I've never heard a good thing regarding Rosie O'Donnell. Not in media, not in news, not from anybody. I think she was even in a movie once? But yea, it's like nobody wants this bitch around, ever.

She was in that TV movie where, like Sean Penn in I Am Sam, Rosie went full retard.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

All the protest dynamite goes to blowing ATMs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/talib-crump-charged-seling-dynamite-atm-explosions-philadelphia/

DREXEL HILL, Pa. (CBS) -- A suspect is under arrest, accused of selling dynamite linked to some of the 100 ATM explosions that have rattled the Delaware Valley. The Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office on Wednesday announced charges against Talib Crump.

Crump is accused of selling dynamite sticks on social media and allegedly told undercover police officers during a sting that dynamite sticks are "better than bullets" for robbing ATMs.

State prosecutors say Crump provided some of the explosive products that have been used to blow up ATMs across Philadelphia, a pattern that has since only intensified.

"At a time that millions in our country are calling for justice, these violent crimes of distraction are intolerable," Attorney General Josh Shapiro said. "They are a threat to our safety, but also to our freedom to assemble to protest and we will not tolerate it."

A Philadelphia-area man was sentenced Wednesday to 7 1/2 years in prison for his role in a string of explosions that hit cash machines in the city starting in 2020, netting him and two accomplices more than $400,000, federal prosecutors said.

The indictment charged Cushmir McBride, 25, of Yeadon, and two others with damaging six of the cash machines hit during a wave that saw thieves blow up about 50 ATMs. Some came in the days and weeks that followed protests across the city sparked by the fatal police shooting of Walter Wallace Jr., who was killed within a minute of police responding to a mental health call.

McBride pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges involving five of the robberies, while charges were dropped for one in Delaware, his lawyer said.

“It’s a tragic case,” defense lawyer Lawrence Bozzelli said. “He was really trying to get money to help support his family and he regrets deeply what happened.”

https://whyy.org/articles/philadelphia-atm-explosions-2020-protests-sentenced/

Straight up though, if people can get it this easily to blow up ATMs they can get it to blow up people.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

Legitimate criticism of Trump: "Pam Bondi should not have run her mouth about 'Epstein files on her desk' just to look good for the camera. This is now a minor shitshow and an entirely unforced error."

Legitimate criticism of Trump: the Trump administration made a show of showing that they had the Epstein files, shared them with influencers, released doctored footage of Epstein's jail with a minute of footage conveniently edited yet, and then released a barebones statement saying that nothing happened, he killed himself, and he and Ghislaine were sex trafficking underage girls to no one at all the entire time.

Come the fuck on man. He's better than Kamala but he's covering things up.

 

[marlimar]

I don't get it. If this is the level of professionalism we expect from a first-world country, we are doomed. Please rationalize to me the point of this sort of posting. Also rationalize to me why Trump backtracking to the Epstein files is a good thing despite his assurance of government corruption being exposed to the wild. If not, you're just as bad as me with Hillary Clinton.

Twitter is the modern Colosseum, the masses demand more ironic slap fights and esoteric memes! I only voted for Trump because I like seeing women lose elections, which he's delivered me twice.

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

Trump jokes about taking away Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship:
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To be fair he isn't wrong.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Legitimate criticism of Trump: the Trump administration made a show of showing that they had the Epstein files, shared them with influencers, released doctored footage of Epstein's jail with a minute of footage conveniently edited yet, and then released a barebones statement saying that nothing happened, he killed himself, and he was sex trafficking girls to no one at all the entire time.

Come the fuck on man. He's better than Kamala but he's covering things up.

Trump's biggest flaw is he is extremely hit or miss when it comes to hiring or just who he surrounds himself with in general. I gave up on the Epstein stuff quite awhile ago and indicated the best course for the admin was to just drop it.

There may have been evidence that tied very powerful people to their bad acts but there is no chance it survived the Biden administration unless it was against people on the right and even then the best move was to shred.

DC is run completely on MAD between parties and individual politicians. I doubt you could find a clean hand in either chamber, any branch, or even the most remote office.

 

[mold]

Having one friend that's getting really blackpilled about everything going on with the Epstein list and losing his job to a fucking arsonist. I'm trying so fucking hard dealing with him because I don't believe that cutting people off is doing to do anything beyond making it worse. But, God help me, I don't know how many more doompost articles I can take where I'm not just repeating the same line of "oh boy, another unsourced claim from an anonymous indsider coming from a shitlib media company". All this is to say: check up on your friends because, even if they're not going through it, they might have their own friend going through it.

make that guy go outside

take him for a hike or something

 

[Jace on ice]

I will say that I'm greatly enjoying the recent blitz of failed shitlib propaganda where a great big giant fat fuck of a boomer farmer with a net worth of 35 million visibly wheezes and struggles to keep his 400 pound gunt in frame while he tearfully laments that he won't be able continue without brown slaves that he can abuse and underpay.

I'm sure this will go over just as well as all those sad immigrant commercials where everyone pictured had "I heart rape and murder" tattoos.

Stalin was right, gulag for these parasites now.

 

[Justsomecicada]

I just don’t know who is falling for it like it’s very blatantly slave shit. Some have been dumb enough to admit on camera they are paying them like 6 bucks a hour

 

[Jace on ice]

I just don’t know who is falling for it like it’s very blatantly slave shit.

Oddly enough, reddit posters. You'd think they'd howl about exploitation given how liberal and anti slavery they are but they seem to be firmly on the side of big agriculture and human traffickers.

 

[verissimus]

Can one of you water heads explain exactly why you're mad at Pam Bondi now

She made a big unnecessary fumble and embarrassed her teammates, and in particular, the head coach.

 

[Sammich]

She made a big unnecessary fumble and embarrassed her teammates, and in particular, the head coach.

I remember some cabinet guy under W, I think, responding with "I serve at the privilege of the president" or something like that. These cabinet members are there to serve Trump, it seems to me like Bondi is THERE to be a scapegoat, that's part of her fucking job description.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

I'm sure someone has already had this thought, but all this Epstein stuff reads to me like the other various cover ups that would be fully declassified and revealed to the American public as soon as (and not a second before) the last person implicated in any crime is dead.

I expect we'll have a full reversal and reveal if any dirty secrets in 20 years

 

[David Brown]

expect we'll have a full reversal and reveal if any dirty secrets in 20 years

Reveal what? There is nothing to reveal. There's no blackmail, no missing footage from the jail cell, and no client list. Are you a conspiracy theorist?

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I'm sure someone has already had this thought, but all this Epstein stuff reads to me like the other various cover ups that would be fully declassified and revealed to the American public as soon as (and not a second before) the last person implicated in any crime is dead.

I expect we'll have a full reversal and reveal if any dirty secrets in 20 years

Yes. Just like JFK...

 

[mold]

do an experiment, I challenge you to talk to 5 random people COMPLETLY OUTSIDE YOUR CIRCLE

Like no friends family or anything even remotly connected, not losers on the internet.

I challenge you or anyone else to talk to 5 random, Walmart employees or McDonalds check out ladys or whatever, just randos, make it of whatever age, gender, creed you want just make sure they are total strangers and try and ask them about the deportations and just wait for the look you get, alot of you fuckers are so obvious witch party you suport visually you dont even realize it but the second you talk to a "normie" about this without EXTENSIVE people skills (witch I know most of you lack) your going to be super obvious what side you support just in your appearance and the way you ask the question.

Most wont even engage with you, they will try and avoid eye contact and just say something like "It is what it is" or something about how they dont like to talk or think about politics. This isent true of course they just already despise what you represent and dont want anything to do with you.

Dont feel to bad, they would very likely do the exact same thing and think the exact same way about a blue hair LGBTQ faggot most of yall just dont realize your the opposite side of the SAME coin

Most Americans dont vote, simple fact, but they still have thoughts and opinions and that IS reflected in polls. There is a big difference in having a mandate from your political party and mandate from the nation.

I'm completely unable to place politically in a superficial interaction - I know this, I'm not just assuming, because I enjoy interactions with strangers like the ones you're describing here and people will frequently tell me exactly this - and this is my mold talking constantly strangers in multiple US states poll results:

* all uber/lyft drivers want mass deportations yesterday. they will cloak this more or less depending on how long they're been in the US and how much they care about what you think. so a black American will hedge and tell you about how much he loves his Mexican friends while an Uzbek who got here last year will ask you why it's going so slow but they both want illegals gone.

* other non-latino service employees shake out depending on whether they identify as working class or are aspirational. the former group like mexicans fine but think the border situation is fucked up and obviously there should be laws, they don't really think about it much. The latter identify with NPR talking points.

* latino service employees want mass deportations yesterday unless you're in California then only half of them do unless they're uber/lyft drivers, see above.

* bluecollar government workers are surprisingly based especially ones who have anything to do with transportation. they are aware of the cartels and do not like the situation. they would be 100% MAGA if they didn't think it was racist.

* everyone over 35 who has a real money job and is willing to talk to a random person at a bar or in the airport or whatever is a lunatic who thinks Trump is going to start sacrificing darkies on the white house lawn any day now.