US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[7/11 Coffee]

Don't forget, the DNC political machine was able to keep Kamala Harris somewhat competitive, even though she ran the worst campaign of the century while Trump is running one of the best, a guy like Newsome could have won that race pretty easily. If Trump can't break that machine down with election reforms and ruining MAGA's credibility by going back on campaign promises or fumbling shit super hard like the Epstin stuff then Vance is going to get bogged down with his baggage while the DNC pull their usual shenanigans.

The DNC will still try to run people like Kamala but i think the Dems are having their own MAGA movement. By that, i mean in the context of how MAGA changed the republican party and got rid of the old guard like Bush and Romney. DSA types are becoming more popular with most left-leaning people, especially the younger crowd

 

[Justsomecicada]

According to this thread seeing Trump killed in our current political climate would cause a mass revolt, so going by that logic JFK's death should have caused a civil war given the similar chaotic political climate and violence caused by the Civil Rights Movement.

Yeah but there was no clear person to blame who would have started the civil war. I agree with your sentiment I just find the jfk example strange. Like MLKs assassination and preceding riots would be a much better candidate to start a civil war

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

The DNC will still try to run people like Kamala but i think the Dems are having their own MAGA movement. By that, i mean in the context of how MAGA changed the republican party and got rid of the old guard like Bush and Romney. DSA types are becoming more popular with most left-leaning people, especially the younger crowd

But they will all Obama out in the end if they win.

 

[Justsomecicada]

. DSA types are becoming more popular with most left-leaning people, especially the younger crowd

I think the DSA is less like MAGA and more like a slightly more effective groypers. I’ll take notice when half the DSA doesn’t immediately disown one of their members shortly after being elected and isn’t riven with infighting. Wake me up when DSA types win in places without 60%+ dem super majorities

 

[weliveinaMeritocracy]

Couldn't sleep last night. Was so worried about israel. Another day where the sun rises and israel is still with us. Thank God

 

[ThisIsGonnaBeGood]

No matter what happens - Mr. Beast will still sell chocolate bars

I'll never understand how Ramsey suddenly became BFFs with this shyster.

 

[DavidS877]

Portland illegal has a bunch of anchor babies and then, for some reason, tries to go to Canada and gets arrested, asks to keep the kids with her.

FAFO is high.

https://www.koin.com/news/portland/rep-dexter-portland-area-family-detained-without-cause-at-washington-border-facility/

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

why would the JFK assassination lead to civil war that makes no sense. I understand the rest of your post but what did you mean by this what would such a civil war even look like. Makes no sense to me

When JFK was shot everybody immediately thought it was either the commies or the klan. If it had been the commies we were looking at WW3 and if it had been the klan (desegregation) a second civil war became plausible. Just think of the wild first conclusions people jump to when big shit happens today.

 

[7/11 Coffee]

I think the DSA is less like MAGA and more like a slightly more effective groypers. I’ll take notice when the DSA downst immediately disown one of their members shortly after being elected and isn’t riven with infighting. Wake me up when DSA types win in places without 60%+ dem super majorities

I said MAGA because it's a good comparison since MAGA themselves are having a civil war with groypers. Groypers themselves are influential online (they helped swing the pendulum right again) and in some right-wing IRL politics, and similar to the DSA, mostly younger people. DSA is making steps and really trying to push out liberals from the left because they view them as right-wingers. Outside of AOC (who hasn't really done anything) and Zorhan (most of his policies will most likely not work), there isn't a lot of hope for the DSA but they are still changing the Democrat party landscape

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

According to this thread seeing Trump killed in our current political climate would cause a mass revolt, so going by that logic JFK's death should have caused a civil war given the similar chaotic political climate and violence caused by the Civil Rights Movement.

When JFK was shot everybody immediately thought it was either the commies or the klan. If it had been the commies we were looking at WW3 and if it had been the klan (desegregation) a second civil war became plausible. Just think of the wild first conclusions people jump to when big shit happens today.

JFK (liberal) was killed by a Marxist traitor *; that's left vs left-er. He also tried to kill a conservative General 6 months earlier. Which mass group was going to revolt in support of a Communist in 1963?

As for starting WWIII, Oswald was American-born and Russia disavowed having any connection to him, which was noted in a Hoover memo:

The FBI memo, citing the unnamed source, says "Soviet officials claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald had no connection whatsoever with the Soviet Union. They described him as a neurotic maniac who was disloyal to his own country and everything else."

The same single source reported that the KGB, the Soviet intelligence agency, "issued instructions to all of its agents to immediately obtain all data available concerning" President Lyndon Johnson. The memo said that in the months after Kennedy's death, the KGB had come into "possession of data purporting to indicate that President Johnson was responsible for the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy."

A different memo, this one from the CIA director of security to CIA headquarters, originally classified "Secret" and dated March 11, 1964, refers to a George M. Lesnik, a former KGB agent who was in Moscow on the day of the Kennedy assassination.

After hearing the news, Lesnik "dashed to his office" to look at Oswald's file. "When he found the file he reviewed it and found that Oswald had not been used or even approached for use by the Russian intelligence." Lesnik said that he then called others in the KGB, who said they were unaware of Oswald's having been cultivated in any way before returning to the United States.

Russia, per the article above, thought the assassination was possibly an extreme right attempt at a coup in the U.S., or Lyndon Johnson, or whatever. Consider their theories self-serving as always, but there wasn't a real belief they were behind it, and certainly Kennedy was preferable to Johnson or Republican contenders for the next election (Nixon).

* I am ignoring conspiracy theories for these purposes.

 

[Birthday Cat]

its fucking annoying how much infighting happens among us citizens tbh, especially when you have dumb af takes like people on the left going "yes, see we told you we told you!" about the list when their prior reasons for getting pissed off about orange hitler(scratch hitler actually hitlers BASED AS FUCK and nazis were AWESOME now because we just learned about palestine)TM was that he was "going to round up all troons in death camps, kill them all, kill all immigrants, and *gasp* stop people, particularly children, from starfishing their cock and balls."

the entire left seems to run off the idea that everyone that voted trump just wants orange cock, and jacks off to trump in the closet, and worships him instead of just voting for political party 1 "need to deport illegal people instead of sucking their shoes, and not have infinite migration, voter id might be kind of decent" or political party 2 "we fucking love tranny cock, gay cock, nigger cock, really blacks should be in front of whites. well everybody should be in front of whites. fuck whites, fuck you, fuck your vote too all your votes for biden are for kamala now, because he wasn't invalid AT ALL before but now he just might be, and youre just going to have to fuckin deal with it because youre not racist are you wyt boi?"

like going back to the beginning of the Orange Death, we had trump vs fuckin hilary clinton. hilary fuckin clinton. no possible shit in her background without the email debacle, no sir. then we had biden who was what they picked out of the entire fucking democratic party, great job, if that's the best they have to offer i don't want to see the runners, then finally kamala "i gave her a job at the border and we haven't seen her for a year or so there but uh, just forget about that" skinwalker harris who's indian or niggruh or whatever she had to be to win wherever she went and finally attempted to skinwalk biden to victory.

people choose sides and fight over it and get contrarian, leading to shit like commonly defending pedos and gays pissing on each other because THEM FILTHY CHUDS think it's fucking nasty and the blue bible says you should suck the hairball grape out of a troon vacuum, when trump or whoever the fuck else was just the only other option, and nobody is going to en masse say "fuck you, biden fucking sucks, why the fuck is trump up there, why the fuck aren't the clintons in jail, get someone else". maybe trump wouldn't have been so celebrated if the entire left weren't complete retards and anybody else on the right did fucking anything besides stick their head in the sand, mumble, and present their asshole, if maybe anybody on the left went "oh wait we actually can't support infinite migration, whoops, actually black people commit crimes, WHOOPSIE, actually troons, fags and sand people aren't fuckin sacred WHOOPSIE DAISY maybe the right is full of fucked up freaks who should be (fedpost) AND also the left OH LORD IM COMING HOME"

 

[The Last Stand]

Man I don't think trump is pulling 4d chess with this one, Occam's razor would better suggest that Trump is just being a stupid retard about this one because he genuinely thought that people moved on from the Epstein stuff (which I guess was somewhat true before Bondi said "ackshually Epstein DID kill himself and the conspiracy theories are FALSE, stalker child. Stop investigating, goy!") and he genuinely thinks that Pam Bondi is a hot competent part of the Trump administration.

Bondi isn’t even that hot. Neither is Karoline. But yes, Trump is not as smart as he thinks he is.

 

[David Brown]

Little early to be drinking that much eh @Birthday Cat?

 

[Eddie Riggs]

Bondi isn’t even that hot. Neither is Karoline. But yes, Trump is not as smart as he thinks he is.

You know who else is not as smart as they think they are?

Spoiler

George Soros

 

[tehpope]

You know who else is not as smart as they think they are?

Soros deluded himself into thinking he is a literal god. He's admitted as such he has a god complex.

 

[Nameless One]

A doubter, doomer or burger suiter of the orange party is just the "right's" version of "Chud". I've come back to the belief that there is a uniparty conspiracy against us and you can't vote your way out of it. System-changing events would need to occur to be remotely as isolationist as you'd like America to be. We will not have that with Republicans or Democrats. Why do we Americans settle for something "good enough" when our money is being wasted on Looney Toons tier Alligator jails that only keep illegals here instead of funding transportation to get them the fuck out? Brazillian prisons with autocannibalism and brutality are a way better place than Florida for illegals to be, if you're building prisons for illegals on American soil eventually it'll be used for Americans too whch is just a waste, there's 0 logic and its all a bluff or flex from Trump so you go "BAAASED" without considering that there's better ways to deal with it. Stop building prisons and utilize shit like Guatemala with dark money, not citizens dollars.


Our forefathers killed the British for less but you already know that. You just won't do shit. At least those retarded leftists are capable of actually doing something (like shooting people they hate in the throat), as crazy as they are. What can you do if it all goes to shit? Talk your way out and predict Trump's next move like a fucking horoscope? The way I see it, the establishment got painted red and now there's marketing for red things, but it all remained the same as ever. Nothing's really gonna change in the way people want. You'll have to "compromise" without the Epstein list and absurd takebacks Trump is gonna end up doing.

 

[obsdj]

I think they are at the point they cannot run a straight white dude without depressing their own turnout

On the other hand, they should realize at this point that they will not have an actual chance of winning unless they do.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I said MAGA because it's a good comparison since MAGA themselves are having a civil war with groypers. Groypers themselves are influential online (they helped swing the pendulum right again) and in some right-wing IRL politics, and similar to the DSA, mostly younger people. DSA is making steps and really trying to push out liberals from the left because they view them as right-wingers. Outside of AOC (who hasn't really done anything) and Zorhan (most of his policies will most likely not work), there isn't a lot of hope for the DSA but they are still changing the Democrat party landscape

Groypers are a bunch of terminally online, incel pedophiles with zero influence outside of their groomer Discords. What the fuck are you talking about, dude?

JFK assassination

The Soviets wanted nothing to do with Oswald even when he showed up in the Soviet Union. My pet theory is anti-Castro Cubans killed Kennedy as revenge for Bay of Pigs and LBJ didn't care because he hated Kennedy anyway and got to he president. Either that or Oswald really did act alone and Ruby killed him as revenge because JFK was the mob's guy.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

According to this thread seeing Trump killed in our current political climate would cause a mass revolt, so going by that logic JFK's death should have caused a civil war given the similar chaotic political climate and violence caused by the Civil Rights Movement.

A thing to keep in mind is that racial violence hadn't gotten that bad yet, not until Johnson and the 70s, when it started driving the whites out of cities and into the suburbs. Which for those who don't understand, is why suburbs are designed the way they are, to keep violent urban blacks away. Especially the Euros, all y'all are only starting to discover the joys of a violent urban underclass.

 

[big pauper]

I'll never understand how Ramsey suddenly became BFFs with this shyster.

Ramsey has his face on Wal-Mart's premium tv dinners bro he's an absolute sellout hack with zero clout as an actual foodsmith