Lula barely beats Bolsonaro to become the President of Brazil AGAIN

[General Emílio Médici]

I really wanted to know what's the origin of this meme because this seems like a meme coming straight out of a Brazilian imageboard. If that's the case, it would be very ironic and funny.

No idea, but I remember it got national recognition around the time they were designing the 200 BRL note with a online movement to put the caramel mutt on it, obviously they didn't and instead we got the Guará Wolf but that spread the meme to a normie audience. The idea is that such dogs are the most common in Brazil, that simple.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

After some loud boistering about going to pay back the tarrifs at the same rate that ended up coming to nothing (because Brasil already tarriffs at some shit like 95%) a second plane has hit Brasília and the United States Trade Representative announced the initiation of a Section 301 investigation into Brasil. In particular:

• Digital trade and electronic payment services: Brazil may undermine the competitiveness of U.S. companies engaged in these sectors, for example, by retaliating against them for failing to censor political speech or restricting their ability to provide services in the country;
• Unfair, preferential tariffs: Brazil accords lower, preferential tariff rates to the exports of certain globally competitive trade partners, thereby disadvantaging U.S. exports;
• Anti-corruption enforcement: Brazil’s failure to enforce anti-corruption and transparency measures raises concerns in relation to norms relating to fighting bribery and corruption;
• Intellectual property protection: Brazil apparently denies adequate and effective protection and enforcement of intellectual property rights, harming American workers whose livelihoods are tied to America’s innovation- and creativity-driven sectors;
• Ethanol: Brazil has walked away from its willingness to provide virtually duty-free treatment for U.S. ethanol and instead now applies a substantially higher tariff on U.S. ethanol exports; and
• Illegal deforestation: Brazil appears to be failing to effectively enforce laws and regulations designed to stop illegal deforestation, thereby undermining the competitiveness of U.S. producers of timber and agricultural products.

Pretty interesting how the response from the shills is going at the moment. There is almost no mention of the last point about deforestation. There is also very little mention of the corruption stuff or even the tarrifs to other countries. They seem to have hit on defending the 25 De Março (a very famous street in São Paulo known for selling all sorts of pirated and counterfeit goods) and claiming that "The US wants to tax PIX"

Second one needs some explanation. They took the first item on the list as a direct attack on PIX, which is a direct money transfer app thing that the government put online during Bolsonaro's term and has been pretty succefull. It is integrated into most banks already and allows quick ways to pay and transfer money. There was a huge drama at the start of this year when Lula's government made moves to start taxing PIX transfers and wanting to track all data on it as a way to better tax income. A lot of people were scared off using it and the government had to come out and call it "fake news" and lies. No one believed it, and the record shows they wanted to track and tax it indeed but were forced to drop it.

So now they are blatantly lying and claiming that AKSHUALLY IT'S THE EVIL UNITED STATES THAT WANTS TO TAX PIX!!!1! despite nothing Trump or the USTR said even hinting at that. It is obviously another attempt at cheap scares and rally around the flag.

 

[Celestial Peace]

the United States Trade Representative announced the initiation of a Section 301 investigation into Brasil.

This is going to makes things go further south for Brazil.

Whenever Americans start overseeing a foreign country shit is about to hit the fan. Brazil could be sanctioned for lots of things that goes on here and America could even force an embargo policy on Brazil which will make an already fragile economy go kaput.

Lula should've know better than to pick a fight with the World's Greatest Superpower. Brazil ain't China to counter these tariffs without collapsing the economy. Shit is about to get serious.

OTOH it's the first time Brazilians will see if their seasonal patriotism is going to keep standing after witnessing the collapse of the country.

Brazil will embarrass itself and the whole world will laugh and will keep laughing for a long time and all retards who believe gringos really take this country seriously will see what they really think of Brazil. Obviously, I expect denial, comparison and bravado as always.

 

[The handsome tard]

After some loud boistering about going to pay back the tarrifs at the same rate that ended up coming to nothing (because Brasil already tarriffs at some shit like 95%) a second plane has hit Brasília and the United States Trade Representative announced the initiation of a Section 301 investigation into Brasil. In particular:

• Digital trade and electronic payment services: Brazil may undermine the competitiveness of U.S. companies engaged in these sectors, for example, by retaliating against them for failing to censor political speech or restricting their ability to provide services in the country;
• Unfair, preferential tariffs: Brazil accords lower, preferential tariff rates to the exports of certain globally competitive trade partners, thereby disadvantaging U.S. exports;
• Anti-corruption enforcement: Brazil’s failure to enforce anti-corruption and transparency measures raises concerns in relation to norms relating to fighting bribery and corruption;
• Intellectual property protection: Brazil apparently denies adequate and effective protection and enforcement of intellectual property rights, harming American workers whose livelihoods are tied to America’s innovation- and creativity-driven sectors;
• Ethanol: Brazil has walked away from its willingness to provide virtually duty-free treatment for U.S. ethanol and instead now applies a substantially higher tariff on U.S. ethanol exports; and
• Illegal deforestation: Brazil appears to be failing to effectively enforce laws and regulations designed to stop illegal deforestation, thereby undermining the competitiveness of U.S. producers of timber and agricultural products.

Pretty interesting how the response from the shills is going at the moment. There is almost no mention of the last point about deforestation. There is also very little mention of the corruption stuff or even the tarrifs to other countries. They seem to have hit on defending the 25 De Março (a very famous street in São Paulo known for selling all sorts of pirated and counterfeit goods) and claiming that "The US wants to tax PIX"

Second one needs some explanation. They took the first item on the list as a direct attack on PIX, which is a direct money transfer app thing that the government put online during Bolsonaro's term and has been pretty succefull. It is integrated into most banks already and allows quick ways to pay and transfer money. There was a huge drama at the start of this year when Lula's government made moves to start taxing PIX transfers and wanting to track all data on it as a way to better tax income. A lot of people were scared off using it and the government had to come out and call it "fake news" and lies. No one believed it, and the record shows they wanted to track and tax it indeed but were forced to drop it.

So now they are blatantly lying and claiming that AKSHUALLY IT'S THE EVIL UNITED STATES THAT WANTS TO TAX PIX!!!1! despite nothing Trump or the USTR said even hinting at that. It is obviously another attempt at cheap scares and rally around the flag.

This is going to makes things go further south for Brazil.

Whenever Americans start overseeing a foreign country shit is about to hit the fan. Brazil could be sanctioned for lots of things that goes on here and America could even force an embargo policy on Brazil which will make an already fragile economy go kaput.

Lula should've know better than to pick a fight with the World's Greatest Superpower. Brazil ain't China to counter these tariffs without collapsing the economy. Shit is about to get serious.

OTOH it's the first time Brazilians will see if their seasonal patriotism is going to keep standing after witnessing the collapse of the country.

Brazil will embarrass itself and the whole world will laugh and will keep laughing for a long time and all retards who believe gringos really take this country seriously will see what they really think of Brazil. Obviously, I expect denial, comparison and bravado as always.

Seems like they are saving the best of the administration for last, huh?

"It would've been the same/worse under Bolsonaro!!" type copes too because it will get to the point where now no one will ever assume responsibility over voting for Lula.

But its shocking that this is all happening because of the "ex-con" president and supreme court leader's fee-fees being hurt and wanting to censor "misinformation".

Brazillians deserved to get a collective "We had a GOOD thing, you stupid son of a bitch" styled rant on their dumbass faces because if there is a nation that demonstrates the dangers of a democracy handled with absolute irresponsibility by its apathetic voters, its Brazil

I hate the fact that there isnt any upcoming non-rino conservative (preferably younger) candidate wishing to use this opportunity to promise this nonsense to end. The next election is really shaping up to be an absolutely miserable time for all because even BEST case scenario here, we are talking about a conservative president basically being handed over the ruins of a country and told to "fix it" while every media outlet, celebrity and political actor will boycott whatever he does to unfuck this mess (but I did say the focus is

Not that P.T will get out of this unscaved either, their reputation has been destroyed and Lula couldnt care less because he has already one foot left in the grave and his only regret wasnt nuking the country into the stone age as his last act in the ultimate spiteful act of showing what he truly thinks about it and everyone in it and that he is taking as many as he can with him.

Edit: In retrospect, everyone you'd expect is saying this is Bolsonaro's fault

 

[Kyria the Great]

I know I sound like a clueless American, but does Brazil make anything for export aside from raw resources? I ask because I don't think I've ever seen a product made in Brazil outside of an odd food product here or there.

 

[jakkufurosuto]

no one takes this place seriously. lula's hubris is gonna send this country six feet under

 

[The handsome tard]

The comments are exactly what you might expect, a lot of people mouth open asking for daddy Lula to "juice them" if you get what I mean.

As predicted, now every PT follower is now a hyper patriot (even tho they live to take advantage of the nation and its people)

Its clear they will milk this for all its worth and make it the theme of their campaign next year all about "fighting the orange man" as everyone apparently took idiot pills and forgot over 3 and a half years of hyper corruption, mismanagement and empoverishment. There are mfs proud of Lula and promising he will be president a fourth time in 2026 (and somehow making it seem like this is democratic at all)

Brazillians deserve to be taken advantage of, holy shit.

 

[Celestial Peace]

I know I sound like a clueless American, but does Brazil make anything for export aside from raw resources?

No it doesn't. Brazil is another country in Latin America whose economy is solely for exportation of raw resources.

However Brazilians will claim that Brazil feeds the whole world because everybody buys shit from us. How far that is from reality is up to you to decide because I know for sure that Brazil is no one's main trade partner.

Brazilians think their country is hot shit because we're talking about years and years of government propaganda shaping public opinion.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Brazilians think their country is hot shit because we're talking about years and years of government propaganda shaping public opinion.

Somehow I can believe that. One Brazilian I knew long before this website blamed me (even before I could vote) that I was part of the reason why Lula got "couped" back then and that I voted for it. I wasn't old enough to vote in any election before 2020, and had no idea why he lashed out at me. Maybe he was mentally ill for an extremely obsessive Lula fan because he also defended North Korea to me.

 

[Chad Holdenford]

Lula should've know better than to pick a fight with the World's Greatest Superpower.

He doesn't, and even if he knew, he wouldn't care. He's still the same cynical communist he always was, just under a carefully-crafted veneer of diplomacy.

As I said before in this very thread, all Lula cares about is being perceived as a national hero and champion of the poor unwashed masses. And now that he's pushing 80 and closer every day to his fated hour, he's going all-in on the narrative, the nation itself be damned. Who cares if he spends far more than what he gathers in taxes, if Globo and UOL don't air it, it didn't happen.

I really don't see how our country can benefit from being embargoed by the US, or how Lula himself can benefit from isolating us from the main major player of world geopolitics. At most, the major agricultural names will have to sell their surplus to the domestic market at whatever prices they find convenient to avoid a loss, but then what?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Because the Brazilian government is both delusional and utterly sure of their ability to control and rig elections they just ordered a raid on Bolsonaro. He will be forced to wear a ankle bracelet, no social media and restricting contact with his kid.

Oh yeah at the same time Moares is also starting beef with the 2nd biggest name in the Brazilian right wing (well more like the opposition, not really very right wing, but anyway) by starting shit with the governor of São Paulo and making noises that he may have been involved in the "coup attempt".

 

[The handsome tard]

Oh yeah at the same time Moares is also starting beef with the 2nd biggest name in the Brazilian right wing (well more like the opposition, not really very right wing, but anyway) by starting shit with the governor of São Paulo and making noises that he may have been involved in the "coup attempt".

So the "they're a witch!" of this particular witch hunt is the "they were involved in the coup attempt". Just throw that accusation and some True and Honest "evidence" and bam, you are therefore "Morally justified" in doing whatever you want to them because it will be an act to defend- *checks notes* -democracy

Then again, most brazillians dont even understand the concept of a witch hunt.

I really don't see how our country can benefit from being embargoed by the US, or how Lula himself can benefit from isolating us from the main major player of world geopolitics. At most, the major agricultural names will have to sell their surplus to the domestic market at whatever prices they find convenient to avoid a loss, but then what?

Because the big narrative of the next election will be Lula presenting himself as a "hero" against the evil imperialist americans (just going full Fidel Castro, subtlety be damned, huh?)

They are also pinning all of this on Bolsonaro, to an unrealistic extent.

I really wonder whats the endgame here, to turn the nation into a Cuba like state? That will obviously fail for multiple reasons, one of which is that it aint 1960 (along with the fact that Cuba ended worse off for it). Maybe Lula knows just really wants so badly to become a Castro or Chaves like figure before he croaks so he is going ahead with it, even if he will take the whole nation down with him. Commies, being the arrogant nihilists they are, dont particularly care what happens to what they are leaving behind once die so its par for the course for Lula to not care what happens to Brazil once he drops dead (nvm his allies will def. do the same or flee to other nations when things get too difficult).

He is one of the last of the "old guard" and maybe he'll want to go out in a bang.

You do not hate commies enough

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I really wonder whats the endgame here

In my opinion it's a desperate attempt to loot as much wealth out of the Brazilian state as possible. Lula gets his little commie LARP, and the Oligarchs get a shitload of money from looting the treasury and the government contracts. Afterwards who cares?

 

[Fapcop]

I know I sound like a clueless American, but does Brazil make anything for export aside from raw resources? I ask because I don't think I've ever seen a product made in Brazil outside of an odd food product here or there.

Beef, planes and guns.

Taurus is Brazilian. As are Embraer planes.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Beef, planes and guns.

Taurus is Brazilian. As are Embraer planes.

How did I forget about Taurus, I guess some good things come from Brazil, at times.

 

[Fapcop]

Anyways, these tariffs seem kinda dumb, given that the US exports more to Brazil than it imports.

Wasn’t Trump also moaning and complaining about BRICS the other day? Maybe… This would be a bad idea if you don’t want to encourage more BRICS stuff.

Yeah, that Supreme Court judge is a real piece of shit, so send someone to assassinate him or something.

 

[Celestial Peace]

and the Oligarchs get a shitload of money from looting the treasury and the government contracts

Try to argue that with retards who support what this commie old fart is doing and they'll brush it off and admit that he can't push his policies without negotiating with them.

The same oligarchs they often claim they want to get rid of by supporting someone who'll only give more power to the already empowered oligarchy in exchange for acting without much restraint.

On July 1st Lula announced he'll release a budget of more than 92 billion dollars to a government program to foster production of low-income farmers with small acres of land. The well-known Plano Safra, another tax money wasting fraud that can't bring farmers out of poverty and enhance their production to make food cost less because the support budget is directed to who the fucks know where.

And why would he do it? Just right in the wake of declaring retaliation for the tariffs? Of course to not be stripped from power from the same oligarchy he and his brainless supporters claim to fight.

Lula may avoid serious repercussion if Trump concedes but he would be rising the stakes far too high.

Right now, Lula might revoke visas of Trump's entourage as reprisal for Supreme Court judges visas being quashed. This slapfight will bring serious consequences for the country.

This would be a bad idea if you don’t want to encourage more BRICS stuff.

BRICS is a bloc carried mainly by China and Xi is the only one who can stand up to Trump. Russia and South Africa are willing to negotiate and India have already made negotiations to reduce tariffs while Putin have changed his mind about stop using dollar as a standard currency for trade. Brazil is the only one left behind in this tax crusade that Lula wants to start.

At the end of the day, BRICS mean shit to America.

I really wonder whats the endgame here, to turn the nation into a Cuba like state?

If Lula keeps pushing for fucking around with Trump and Trump doesn't back off then embargo will come full throttle.

If it's any consolation we'll soon see commies feeling the scorn of the people just like ten years ago when Dilma was president. We're not a communist state and Lula will have no one to back him up in if he tries to crowd control.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Man Bolsonaro doesn't deserve this, it's not like he was protecting a cabal of pedophile billionaires or anything like that

 

[The handsome tard]

Man Bolsonaro doesn't deserve this, it's not like he was protecting a cabal of pedophile billionaires or anything like that

If he was, he would be getting protection from legal persecution. What does that tell you about "them" ?

 

[Chad Holdenford]

It's official, dickhead judge got Magnitsky'd, and the tariffs against us begin tomorrow.