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The ‘civil war’ in question started because, and I’m being serious, a post about how tifs are raped more than men and tims combined (bc most rape is opportunistic and they’re just physically smaller) was taken down for being ‘divisive.’ All MTF mod team saw it and I guess not being raped as much bc they’re 6’2” hurt their fee fees and they took down any other post even referencing it. Basically saying ‘shut up about being sexually assaulted’ and one of them literally outright said they were ‘complaining and bitching’ about assault. Totally a woman and not a deeply misogynistic man in a dress.
 
FinnSven said:
Correct me if I am wrong of course!
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Achillean is the gay male equivalent to Sapphic. Sapphic comes from Sappho who lived on an island of women and Achilles was such a fag that even the ancient Greeks got into arguments about it.

The only thing it has to do with pooners is that they're pulling that stupid "well I'm always gay because I'm nonbinary so I'm a man AND a woman hurrdurr" argument about it.
Positron said:
WTF how? Is Patroclus in Iliad a pooner?
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It means "a man who likes men" without being exclusive because Greeks fucked anything that moved, so even if Achilles and Patrocles were into each other they probably weren't gay-gay. But just like how "bi" has come to magically include they thems, achillean and sapphic now apparently are the same way because having an actual sexuality is bad or something.
 
Coldsteel the Hedgehog said:
Achillean is the gay male equivalent to Sapphic. Sapphic comes from Sappho who lived on an island of women and Achilles was such a fag that even the ancient Greeks got into arguments about it.

The only thing it has to do with pooners is that they're pulling that stupid "well I'm always gay because I'm nonbinary so I'm a man AND a woman hurrdurr" argument about it.

It means "a man who likes men" without being exclusive because Greeks fucked anything that moved, so even if Achilles and Patrocles were into each other they probably weren't gay-gay. But just like how "bi" has come to magically include they thems, achillean and sapphic now apparently are the same way because having an actual sexuality is bad or something.
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While I do not have proof, I'd bet that "Achillean" was made up on tumblr by fujos/proto-pooners/actual pooners after "Sapphic" got popular in the gender fandom because they felt left out and tumblr is ground zero for most of the retarded gender shit. Oh, and then I blame the book "The Song of Achilles", which I have not read, but I assume was the inspiration for all the gay pooners to come up with "Achillean".
 
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FinnSven said:
The Greeks actually had women warrior/huntress goddesses, which considering their general society treated most women worse than the most repressive Islamic society today, was “progressive”.
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Goddesses =/= women. Though for what it's worth, female goddesses often preside over female and female-coded things (i.e. Hera for marriage, Artemis for childbirth and the hunt, Aphrodite for love, Hestia for the hearth, Demeter for the harvest, etc. etc.)
FinnSven said:
As far as I recall there are or were no girls masquerading as men and getting away with it in Greek mythology.
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One counterexample I can think of is Tiresias, who was transformed into a woman by Hera as a punishment for breaking up snakes having sex by hitting them with a stick. He was reverted seven years later by once again bullying mating snakes.

Another would be Achilles, (that Achilles) whose mother Thetis dressed him as a noble girl/princess and hid him in the court of the king of Skyros so he could skip the war. Achilles fathered two children during this time which somehow didn't end the ruse, but because it was prophesied that the Trojan War could not be won unless Achilles joined the Achaeans, Odysseus (the guy who ruins everything) went to Skyros disguised as a peddler of women's clothes and jewelry, and included a spear and shield amidst his wares. When Achilles picked up the spear and shield, Odysseus clocked him and convinced him to join the war effort. (In another telling, Achilles was hiding amongst the palace women, so Odysseus set up a fake alarm that the palace is under attack. The women all flee except for Achilles-in-drag, who prepared to defend the palace.)
 
And yet none of that ancient lore with all that gender bending was ever taken as evidence that a eunuch is a woman if he says so. And there were eunuchs around back then, so it would have been recorded.
 
fitty tucker said:
Has anyone seen the drama brewing on reddit?
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I’m glad you brought this up because it’s hilarious but I’ll be fucked if I was going to screenshot it all.

In a twist as part of the drama they learned another mod also mods /r/gayconservative, and they’re all popping stitches over that so much they can’t help but keep bringing it up in the middle of this drama.

So the sub is 1/3rd apology/leave forever posts, 1/3rd trans men are men you gaiz, and 1/3rd CONSERVATIVES ARE HECKIN UNWELCOME!

It’s a beautiful clusterfuck.

Edit: oh, also, the gayconservative mod claims to have taken over the sub to enforce a heavy handed pro trans policy, and demonstrably is, but this isn’t enough to stop them from making the users feel heckin unsafe.

There’s more I’m on my phone but this is a goldmine. It spilled into a chess sub.
 
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Coldsteel the Hedgehog said:
Achilles was such a fag that even the ancient Greeks got into arguments about it.
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Ancient Greeks generally decreed that married men can fuck around with whoever or whatever, as long as they put a few babies in the woman who was selected to be their wife.

Achilles wasn’t any more or less gay than the surrounding Greeks unless he took it in the rear, which being the seriously hardcore and feared warrior he was reputed to be, he certainly wouldn’t have.

As others have said this sounds more like something that Reddit/tumblr pooners made up to try and make an equivalent to sapphic.

The reality of Sappho is disputed.
Again, ancient societies, even ones which had relatively better legal conditions for women are unlikely to have tolerated a bunch of women eating minge and not hanging around waiting to be impregnated.
 
FinnSven said:
as far as I recall there are or were no girls masquerading as men and getting away with it in Greek mythology.
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There is the story in Ovid's Metamorphoses where Isis transforms Iphis (a Cretan lesbian who had been raised as a man) into a man so she could marry Ianthe, another woman. Ovid was Roman but his subjects were pre-Roman. https://ovid.lib.virginia.edu/trans/Metamorph9.htm#483366553. Iphis ends up marrying Ianthe as a man and they lived happily ever after as a straight couple.

The goddess seemed to make the altar tremble (it did tremble), and the doors of the temple shook, her horns, shaped like the moon’s crescents, shone, and the sistrum rattled loudly. Not yet reassured, but gladdened by the auspicious omen, the mother left the temple. Iphis, her companion, followed, taking larger paces than before; with no whiteness left in her complexion; with additional strength, and sharper features, and shorter, less elegant hair; showing more vigour than women have. Take your gifts to the temple, Iphis: rejoice, with confidence, not fear! You, who were lately a girl, are now a boy!
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I've never seen anyone outside of academia think this was trans representation. It's not a very LGB friendly story either: Iphis when praying/complaining says her lesbianism is worse than bestiality and against nature.

Also the idea that "Achillean" should take the place of "gay" for male homosexuals is ridiculous. If anything Achilles shares more traits with "lesbian" (straight male) TIMs than anything else (throws a fit when denied access to women, highly aggressive, maladjusted, and of course undeniably male).
 
FinnSven said:
As others have said this sounds more like something that Reddit/tumblr pooners made up to try and make an equivalent to sapphic.
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Arguing about the gender or sexuality of that sort of stuff outside of an interest in history is pointless. It's the 'but this exotic nudibranch can change gender when you cut it's cock off' argument but less obvious. We don't live in ancient greece, we don't live their reality, you can't just bring back a certain part of some extinct culture simply because it suits your sexual desires or mental issues. Maybe he was trans or whatever but he's dead and so is the culture he existed in, maybe he was gay, if he was then he probably had sex with olive oil for lube and scrubbed the cum out with a pumice stone slathered in lard and ash or whatever so should we ban shower gel and normal lube because of that? Or do we only bring back the parts you specifically romanticise? I just hate people who try to argue about current day issues using anything other than current day examples. Trying to argue transgenderism is good because there was this one guy 4000years ago is nothing more than escapism because you can't support yourself with anything that holds water and instead have to rely on speculation for something that isn't even relevant.
 
It probably says something bad about me that I am disappointed at the lack of tranny tears over the Zelda casting. I've only found two so far and they aren't nearly good enough.
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FinnSven said:
As far as I recall there are or were no girls masquerading as men and getting away with it in Greek mythology.
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There is the story of Kallipateira, although it is closer to history than mythology. Usually women trying to watch athletic competitions would be served the death penalty. Kallipateira was the only one who ever got away with it. She dressed as a man to see her son compete in wrestling. He won the game and due to her excitement she accidentally outed herself as female. She was let off the hook however to show respect to her family (her father, her brothers, her nephew and her child were all Olympic champions).

You can see that this is an instance of breaking repressive laws and not one of fetishistic crossdressing.
 
Meiwaku said:
I'm really skirting the line with this one but it is too insane not to see. The person who approached to check on them is filming it (in the most chad way possible) but it's truly an L of all L's ....

I present to you the Diaper Tranny Car Crash:

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“Quite the fit you have on” my sides are in orbit holy shit. Like i feel bad for the guy being injured but… God what a massive L. Thats not the kind of L you can recover from
 
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