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[Exterminatus]

I feel like the best option would’ve just had Zod and his Stacey Henchwoman be in the video rather than Joer-El. It would be Luthor misunderstanding a transmission from Kryptonian survivors that proves him somewhat right to fear Kryptonians, but the audience would likely be aware of “Oh sequel bait Zod”.

As tired as I am of Zod in the movies, I would actually really like that twist instead of his parents being evil.

Dog adoption interest rises

Say what you will about the movie, but this is a very good thing.

Not if it's white girls adopting dogs, we know what they're doing

 

[BrunoMattei]

I know the movie has made less than Superman v Batman. But is $220 million over a weekend considered a flop?

When the budget is $200-300 million. Yes.

 

[Captain Syrup]

As tired as I am of Zod in the movies

If I wanted to be a huge asshole (and I do!) I’d point out that technically the whole “Jor El is evil” thing is from when Bendis got bored, but this is just them trying to split the difference: they want evil Kryptonians but Zod is played out.

Pretty fair to say the Zod portrayals are on a steep downward trajectory.

Yo, do you remember that episode of Lois & Clark where the evil Kryptonian warlord goes on a press tour? “Yeah I’ve just enslaved Smallville, vaporized a few folks, but I’m here to clear the air.”

Extremely ugly looking

I guess the bit is that Jimmy, who has been canonically mid in every version of Superman, is now somehow drowning in pussy just by existing? Like, that's the gag? If I had to guess, there’s probably a deleted scene where being “Superman’s pal” turns him into this weird Metropolis microcelebrity? Either way, they’ve made him into a douchebag.

 

[Humble Architect]

I’m reminded of that autist from Sci-Fi Speed Dating who dressed up as Jimmy and got every chick’s number by virtue of being normal looking and not smelling.

I bet that’s the reference, Gunn is terminally online enough to know about that.

 

[dick brain]

Going back to the dialogue complaint, that ending with Lex was painful. Lex basically summing up his character in front of a room of people with no hint of irony was…a choice. Same goes for Superman stating he is more human. These feel like Wikipedia descriptions, not something either character would actually say. Lex would never admit jealousy, especially not out in the open, he would always bullshit up some sort of justification.

It was a shit adaptation of Luthor across the board but I think it's in character for Superman to try to get somebody to see the error of their ways, as he perceives them.

Describing Superman, he was fine. The trailers definitely made him out to be more emotional than he was in the film. In saying this, part of him just feels off. He lacks a sort of grounding in the film, coming off a little too passive and weak.

Going to powerlevel a bit and say that when you're particularly strong, it's not uncommon to be conditioned into stoicism and inaction due to your actions having a disproportionate impact. If a woman freaks out and breaks a bunch of dishes people console her like a child, if you freak out and put a hole in the drywall people start packing their bags. You learn to suppress your emotions and walk away from situations in order to avoid blowing up. You end up seeming distant and detached, because the alternative runs the risk of hurting somebody. The fight with Lois was super real to me because I've lived through it a hundred times.

And the desperation behind his voice and face when he says "People were going to die". The reality of being surrounded by problems that you could easily solve through violence or the threat of it, but having to navigate when it is and is not appropriate to exercise that, and then having to defend those decisions to people who have never even been in that situation. The dark side of the "If you have the ability, you have the responsibility" hallmark. It's all very true to the experience of being stronger than everybody around you, at least in my experience.

I'm sure that's a complete accident because nobody working on this movie would have any idea what that's like, but it's a nice accident.

ETA: also what that line reveals about how Superman perceives/thinks about death, and how that reflects back on his hangups with his parents and Krypton, and thus how that informs his morality -- death being this big scary thing to be avoided at all costs, rather than a natural part of life. How that ties in with him saving a fucking squirrel. It reflects something juvenile and idealistic in him. Which begs the question of whether it's idealism when you're perfectly capable of realizing your ideals, but other people aren't. Another great inner conflict that probably had less thought put into it than I'm taking out of it.

And also the aspect of being perceived as a representative of a collective you happen to belong to despite acting as an individual.

Honestly that interview scene in the apartment should be the whole movie, it does more with the character than the rest of the scenes combined. Probably because the writers need that narrative framing device as a crutch to justify the characters spelling everything out, but still.

As a final note for now, holy shit Gunn. How the fuck did you get away with the blatant Israel-Palestine conflict, and having it be extremely anti-Israel at that. Don’t tell me it wasn’t, having a white US ally nation invade a nation of mystery meats that are shown as completely defenseless is a little on the nose, don’t you think? No wonder Fox News and (((Ben Shapiro))) were shitting themselves over this film.

Based. I am absolutely basking in the fact that (((Disney)))-(((Marvel))) has spent decades trying to rally their POC golems with idpol agitprop and now they're all clamoring over a movie where a White Ubermensch threatens the president of Israel. That is so god damned fucking funny.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

As tired as I am of Zod in the movies, I would actually really like that twist instead of his parents being evil.



Not if it's white girls adopting dogs, we know what they're doing

I blame normies for Zod's overuse. Since everyone insists on having Lex be the mastermind in these movies, use Metallo as the Heavy. Even outside of Kryptonite-infused bad guys, Supes has a big enough Rogues gallery that's scaled to his power level, so the invulnerability argument isn't even true.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

As tired as I am of Zod in the movies, I would actually really like that twist instead of his parents being evil.

I’d argue I would like it if Lex would be a slight stand in for fanboys, basically aware of the dangers and vigilant against them, but ultimately is wrong for the right reasons. I’d like it if he goes crazy because he tries to counter Brainiac and kinda wins, but it broken from the encounter and goes total alien death as the response.

I’d like the twist of Lex being a good guy whose good intentions turn him into an enemy. Mainly that Zod and other aliens exist.

Not if it's white girls adopting dogs, we know what they're doing

Adoptions will spike and then shelters will flood. Happened with Marley and Me.

 

[Bâtard Consanguine]

I blame normies for Zod's overuse. Since everyone insists on having Lex be the mastermind in these movies, use Metallo as the Heavy. Even outside of Kryptonite-infused bad guys, Supes has a big enough Rogues gallery that's scaled to his power level, so the invulnerability argument isn't even true.

Or just let Lex wear his power armor for once.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Or just let Lex wear his power armor for once.

It would make more sense than shouting code to control Ultraman. Man can't even calibrate a Logitech controller.

 

[The Nothingness]

If I wanted to be a huge asshole (and I do!) I’d point out that technically the whole “Jor El is evil” thing is from when Bendis got bored, but this is just them trying to split the difference: they want evil Kryptonians but Zod is played out.

Then use other evil Kryptonians or create one just for the movie instead of "subverting expectations." @Drag-on Knight 91873 is right in that normies like familiarity, which is why Superman and Batman movies and TV shows reuse the same villains.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

I got a chance to see Superman at last. It started out promising, I like that it skipped the intros and jumped straight into zany comic super-science (that Luthor can casually replicate a big bang has loony implications though). But after Superman is arrested it nosedives off a cliff.
Mr. Terrific's banter with Lois was typical annoying Gunnslop that drags on too long. He clearly tried recapturing Yondu's charm with a quirky pop song fight but with half the creativity so it comes off trite. For such a genius you'd think he can do more than throw balls around, but I guess he learned from the Angstrom Levy school of being worthless in combat.
Metamorpho's stupid baby Yoda rip-off made the prison dimension fight very awkward choreographically, while clearly failing at being a marketable kiddie character because no one has talked about it.
Jimmy's plot with Eve dawdles too much, much like Terrific's scenes.
Random Muslim guy as a sacrifical lamb was dumb, but better him than someone like Bibbo.
The final battle was goofy as shit with the master plan to kill Superman by... pumping his lungs full of nanomachines Skitter style... which he could have blown away with his established super breath, or conveniently absent freeze breath, or just burned up in atmospheric re-entry.
Krypto is much like Scrappy-Doo in being a useless burden resembling Gunnepotist's ugly mutt instead of the reliable photogenic labrador he is meant to be.
The Russisrael plot (Biayla was right there by the way) taking center stage was an imbroglio where Hawkgirl (who could have put on RED HAIR DYE) killing the despot not only renders the interview scene pointless contrived melodrama, but marks the 3rd time a movie Lex wants to make his own country. Get a new scheme already. Speaking of Lex, while the actors did suprisingly well (best Lois in a while, Corenswet faking an American exacting must've been a chore), I'm tired of Luthor being a nasally nerd and not a serious Machiavellian mastermind.

Any half way non retarded person is going to ask if superman is a conquerer why has he been doing nothing but helping us since he got here?

"Earth isn't yours to conquer" kind of plan I guess. But this whole plot point is rarted and My Adventures With Superman was a mistake. Unless it leads to Eradicator getting a spotlight, though I doubt they will repeat a villain with Superman's powers, which might be why Ultraman was blown here.

Pajeets are eating up James Gunn Superman.

Makes the flame wars screaming YOU MUST BE A SNYDERJEET!! at any Gunn criticism all the funnier.

 

[Granny's Peach Tea]

I’m honestly not surprised that the movie’s been underperforming with the reputation of DC movies still being what it is. The MCU just now has been falling off and people are pointing it out, now imagine your entire cinematic universe falling off from the start.

The last DC movie I can remember doing well in the box office was Aquaman, and one of the main reasons for that was it being aggressively marketed in and incredibly successful in China.

He made a TikTok comparing himself to David Corenswet’s Clark Kent, and how he totally looks like him, you guys! He’s literally Superman!

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I'm curious to see how Supergirl goes. Ngl she's a bitch but Faye Dunaway should return as Selena in some form. Not as the main villain obviously.

 

[Calandrino]

Yo, do you remember that episode of Lois & Clark where the evil Kryptonian warlord goes on a press tour? “Yeah I’ve just enslaved Smallville, vaporized a few folks, but I’m here to clear the air.”

Argh you clipped it right after my favorite exchange

 

[ruckingfetard]

It's got to have insane legs for it to do otherwise. Maybe Gunn fans are doing the MLM scheme and trying to take one other friend to see it every day or something.

I have a friend who is actually constantly trying to do this to me. I said that I was going to wait for it to be HQ on certain websites so I could watch for free and they had a conniption about it and insisted that this movie deserves to be financially supported.
He isn't a Gunn fan, he is just a "at least it's not Snyder" superman fan, which nigger if the bar is that low then I really don't care to see it.

 

[Humble Architect]

I’m honestly not surprised that the movie’s been underperforming with the reputation of DC movies still being what it is. The MCU just now has been falling off and people are pointing it out, now imagine your entire cinematic universe falling off from the start.

The last DC movie I can remember doing well in the box office was Aquaman, and one of the main reasons for that was it being aggressively marketed in and incredibly successful in China.


He made a TikTok comparing himself to David Corenswet’s Clark Kent, and how he totally looks like him, you guys! He’s literally Superman!

That’s another one.

You just know Prime Earth Hasan had a one-sided Internet feud with Clark Kent over Clark taking the brave stance of.

“Could you both calm down? The metahuman population has to deal with daily nonsense, they don’t need the population of the world they’re trying to save, killing each other.”

 

[Rimanah]

Since everyone insists on having Lex be the mastermind in these movies, use Metallo as the Heavy.

I read a rumor that in an early draft of the new movie, the Engineer was originally was Metallo. Idk how accurate it is, but if it's true I'd wish they'd kept that. It's really a shame we haven't seen him on the silver screen yet.

 

[draggs]

I'm tired of Luthor being a nasally nerd and not a serious Machiavellian mastermind.

Yeah it would be nice to get a serious mature Luthor for once. Tired of snarky zoomer dweeb Luthor again and again

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Makes the flame wars screaming YOU MUST BE A SNYDERJEET!! at any Gunn criticism all the funnier.

James Gunnfags has zero right to make fun of Synderfags after praising him for ripping off a Simpsons joke about bad Hollywood writing as a plot point. Only DC pajeets and journalists the think plot point is good writing.

 

[Calandrino]

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I kinda side with the monkey tbh