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[XYZpdq Jr.]

Not even gonna acknowledge the weird shit Genndy is getting into.

at least it's not that craptacular Popeye

 

[The greater a'tuin]

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I got no words.
I got nothing
what the fuck?

I see why they took forever to release it...

Syn-Bionic Titan

This deserved so much better, but witnessing how Genndy's finales never stick the landing is my only reticence to the idea of a revival.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

This deserved so much better, but witnessing how Genndy's finales never stick the landing is my only reticence to the idea of a revival.

The Samurai Jack finale wasn't that bad, come on.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

The Samurai Jack finale wasn't that bad, come on.

Rushed but not bad.

 

[Toxinophile]

The Samurai Jack finale wasn't that bad, come on.

Rushed but not bad.

Not bad doesn't mean it's immune from people disliking it. The series finale wasn't bad but certainly flawed, with quite a whole lot of flaws that plenty of people have already complained about in detail.

 

[Trollblade69]

The Samurai Jack finale wasn't that bad, come on.

Jack falls in love with a woman immature enough to be his daughter like it's a Last Of Us trollfic, the Guardian dies offscreen, Scaramouch(e)'s whole plotline is filler taking up time that could've been used to make a better story, they ruin the joke of the Daughters of Aku being this random cult Aku knows nothing about so Ashi can become a plot device for the last two episodes, they have Jack return to the past despite how a big part of his arc these past few episodes was accepting his grief and the mistakes he's done and how much he's made the future a better place, and then they poof Ashi away in a moment blatantly stealing from Gurren Lagann despite how that show didn't have any idea what it was doing either.

And why was your comment highlighted?

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

they have Jack return to the past despite how a big part of his arc these past few episodes was accepting his grief and the mistakes he's done and how much he's made the future a better place, and then they poof Ashi away

Yeah, the ending, like with many samurai movies and dramas, is supposed to be bittersweet. Jack was able to return to the past to stop Aku once he finally wanted to live in the future to be with Ashi.
And Ashi is only "young enough to be his daughter" because of time travel shenanigans where he doesn't age so he's theoretically like 80 years old but realistically he's still just 30 (or whatever age he's supposed to be).
I have some issues about the final season, but the ending specifically is good.

 

[Chromeo]

Yeah, the ending, like with many samurai movies and dramas, is supposed to be bittersweet. Jack was able to return to the past to stop Aku once he finally wanted to live in the future to be with Ashi.
And Ashi is only "young enough to be his daughter" because of time travel shenanigans where he doesn't age so he's theoretically like 80 years old but realistically he's still just 30 (or whatever age he's supposed to be).
I have some issues about the final season, but the ending specifically is good.

I understand the storytelling problems, but the final season was gorgeous animation and ultimately really cool, so I can overlook some of the problems.
Ashi disappearing later rather than immediately once Aku died was what pissed me off, though. She winced when he died, like "it's like he left my body," but ffs can she survive without Aku's existence or not? If she can't, she should've died once Jack slayed Aku! If she can, there was no reason for her to disappear other than to make Jack miserable. I get that in samurai media, the ending is usually bittersweet, but this is America dammit, we demand a happy ending! Jack suffered for 80 years in an unfamiliar land fighting evil and almost killed himself out of despair, he deserves a loving companion who, now in the past, is the ONLY person who would have any possible hope of relating to him and the shit he's gone through.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Yeah, the ending, like with many samurai movies and dramas, is supposed to be bittersweet. Jack was able to return to the past to stop Aku once he finally wanted to live in the future to be with Ashi.
And Ashi is only "young enough to be his daughter" because of time travel shenanigans where he doesn't age so he's theoretically like 80 years old but realistically he's still just 30 (or whatever age he's supposed to be).
I have some issues about the final season, but the ending specifically is good.

I like the ideas in the ending, even the bittersweet aspect. My problem is how rushed the ending is. All the ideas in the final season are good, Jack flipping a cult member to his side, the audience seeing how Jack affected the world, the suicide plot line and the ending. It just doesn't have enough time to breathe.

I understand the storytelling problems, but the final season was gorgeous animation and ultimately really cool, so I can overlook some of the problems.
Ashi disappearing later rather than immediately once Aku died was what pissed me off, though. She winced when he died, like "it's like he left my body," but ffs can she survive without Aku's existence or not? If she can't, she should've died once Jack slayed Aku! If she can, there was no reason for her to disappear other than to make Jack miserable. I get that in samurai media, the ending is usually bittersweet, but this is America dammit, we demand a happy ending! Jack suffered for 80 years in an unfamiliar land fighting evil and almost killed himself out of despair, he deserves a loving companion who, now in the past, is the ONLY person who would have any possible hope of relating to him and the shit he's gone through.

Back to the future is still the best example of time travel. Being that it is completely made up it can work how we want it to work I don't mind the ending though. If you want to see the ending you want it was put in the samurai Jack beatem'up if you want to see it. It's a completionist bonus.

 

[Chromeo]

If you want to see the ending you want it was put in the samurai Jack beatem'up if you want to see it. It's a completionist bonus.

No, yeah, I know. I just think that's the ending Jack deserves after putting up with all of that stuff. That, OR Ashi dies immediately after Aku and that's what spurs Jack's bittersweet ending. I just don't want to be jerked around by the story right at the end, basically.
There was a fan-comic from around the time that also took a shot at fixing the ending by inserting Rick from Rick and Morty, which I thought was pretty amusing:

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[Trollblade69]

There was a fan-comic from around the time that also took a shot at fixing the ending by inserting Rick from Rick and Morty, which I thought was pretty amusing

Pretty sure this was a meta-joke about R&M Season 3's premiere taking up Samurai Jack's slot on April Fools night.

 

[Chromeo]

Pretty sure this was a meta-joke about R&M Season 3's premiere taking up Samurai Jack's slot on April Fools night.

It can have both

 

[Yamma Damma]

wow a lot of animation news lately.

Spoiler: JEWJEW & THE POWER OF TICTACS

Not sure if this would be good to post here as this is a /v/ topic that crosses into /co/, but, a certain someone may have been leaked to return next year…
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Spoiler: Leak

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that's.......odd. Really REALLY odd if true. "Tak And The Power of Juju" was a fever dream to most people I talked to back when it was new. More so than "Fanboy and Chum-Chum"! To attempt to revive it when studios still listen to fake users/robots on the interwebs is a bold strategy cotton. May they never touch MLaaTR at this point.

And whoever the "leaker" is to not include a photo of the main character makes me believe this could be fake and gay. You went far enough to get the side character and not the star? Better moles have leaked whole goddamn pilots and pitch bibles lately. Step it up.

>Franchise gets first release in two decades
>It's a low-effort AI slop remake
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That's been the modus operandi of big comapnies like Nickelodeon and Disney/Pixar lately anyway so par for the course.

Huh. I assumed that the entire concept was too hot to handle these days.
Well, money always talks!

It is. Which is why they're changing it (if this is real) so much to the point they either shouldn't have bothered or just make something new. It could be another dumpster fire to watch in real time like ppg 2016 (and that was a pretty good dumpster fire!).

Ok, so this proves that its the Chicks and the Simps in LA making a mountain out of the Molehill then. Though it is kinda funny thinking about it. The way to make a South American Hero more appealing to the masses, is to give him dreads. Cause dreads are South American.

Let them purity test themselves out of millions of dollars and assloads of time and have nothing to show for it. It's a kiwi pasttime.

He doesn't have dreds though...

First game is like a bowl cut and the rest are pretty standard hair....
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He is the ultimate vaguely indigenous character. Sad he is now the poster child of "cultural appropriation" as his games were good and the team behind them clearly had a lot of respect and passion for him. Sucks Nickelodeon ended up creating the disaster that was his animated series - the project was a cool concept having a hybrid series of tv/gaming where the shows and games would come out alongside each other. Unfortunately, the show went through development hell, becoming worse and missing the window of the trilogy to really leave an impact.

If my memory serves, the Tak games were far more fantasy than based on anything historical. Even in the 2000s, people were sniffing for any sort of offenses they could use to get attention (in niche forums or livejournal echochambers). Shockingly, I heard not one peep about "Brave the search for Spirit Dancer".


old gamer friend played it. said it was fun but not as fun as any xbox game.

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Is it me, or is nu-Flora's clothing a lot....skimpier? Someone check the character designer's hard drive.

Agreed. Somehow the more realistic proportions with an outfit like that does make it look unsettling. Better comparison would be to look at this picture of her from the first game.


holy sperghetti and memeballz this farms supports webp shit now!!!

I love how they replace the current names because they were originally too insensitive but they come up with shit like "juju-wizard", I'm gonna call the next shaniqua I see that

(if this is true) FUCKING HELL LET THEM KEEP GOING IT CAN GET SO MUCH WORSE (but better for the lulz)

Being "known" for a funny voice role versus being "known" for being a television writer and showrunner are two separate things, I'd say.

It can, depends of how good you were at either one. Look at Ian JQ, JG Quintell and Christopher McCulloch. All three are pretty good VAs, but Ian's "OK KO" fell flat with the kids and audience at large. "Regular Show" and "Venture Bros." (not for kids but teens still watched it) were phenomenons still discussed today.

In Disney-related news, The Proud Family reboot is returning with new episodes in August
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Also, the teaser trailer for Pixar's upcoming movie, Hoppers, is also released. So far, it feels like the humor in this is taking cues from DreamWorks and Illumination

The 2nd season must have been another guarenteed thing per a contract ratings be dammed like many other less than favorable shows. Because there's no way that many negros are watching this.

As for "Hoppers"? It's more of the same rehash gruel not worth the weed needed to watch it. Moving along.

So how much of a complete shitshow do you think this season will be?

Seeing as how they're upping the whole "WEEZ BLAYCK YEEHALL" peacocking this time around? I'd say it's going to be a black curry-level shitshow.

And I didn't watch much of the 1st season but is this supposed to be Michael again?


Still femboyish but less so than his drag queen reject look last time I saw him.

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I got no words.
I got nothing
what the fuck?

After "Unicorn: Warriors Eternal" was a fart in the wind and no word on more "Primal" with CN going under, I'll let the man take what he can get. Even if it's...........this.

at least it's not that craptacular Popeye

To be fair his Popeye movie was in early development before getting smothered in the crib by Sony. It would've taken all sorts to make it something good. Even if 60% of the animatic was retained in the final, it would've probably ben a better watch than....................this.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

I remember seeing a bit where the new seasons tried to make us feel bad for Sugar Mama because her family was mildly mean to her as a kid. Despite her abusing her own son heavily.

Oh I remember hearing a lot of shit with that show, and all the fire it came under. The “slaves built this country” sermon, the ridiculous episode with the ghost slave, the one where Penny gets locked out of the house for breaking curfew, her mom doesn’t even want her finding a place at Suga Mama’s, and then Suga Mama abuses her. I know that locking your kid out for breaking curfew is/was something that happens, but considering shit like how much crime and human trafficking there is these days that’s wild to me. Hearing about Leslie Mahaffy’s murder also stuck with me.
Oh, and don’t forget about Maya. Having a character who’s defined by one or two personality traits is bad enough. That personality trait being “activist” is one of the worst things you can do.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Even if 60% of the animatic was retained in the final, it would've probably ben a better watch than....................this.

The animatic is the full movie and it's shit. It's another damn origin story and he's only doing Popeye things for like ten minutes at the end.

Ironically it may have some ties to an unmade Popeye novel(?!) that the creator was working on a hundred years ago. Still sucked

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Didn't the last Sanurai Jack video game fix the ending where if you 100% it or did something in one of the levels that it's revealed Jack and Ashi do live happily ever after? One of the Kiwis here had that as their avatar because everything about it made Tumblr have a melt down.

 

[Chromeo]

I know that locking your kid out for breaking curfew is/was something that happens, but considering shit like how much crime and human trafficking there is these days that’s wild to me. Hearing about Leslie Mahaffy’s murder also stuck with me.

I hate it when media takes a favorable look on casual child abuse. I've seen clips where kids are scolded by cops for calling 911 after being beaten by a parent, where people are discouraged from comforting crying babies so they can "cry it out," and most recently a clip where the child protagonist is treated like shit at home and moves out and the whole family gaslights him and the lesson is that "you shouldn't try to grow up too fast" and nobody learns a lesson except the kid, who was a victim.
The Proud Family, particularly the reboot, is kind of like an inverse of the Boondocks; both shows have an intimate familiarity with black culture, but whereas the Boondocks criticizes black culture in the ways it's dysfunctional, the Proud Family lifts it up and acts like there's no problem, and if you have a problem with it, YOU'RE the problem. Which I guess is the more black response, but what do I know, I'm just a honky.

Didn't the last Sanurai Jack video game fix the ending where if you 100% it or did something in one of the levels that it's revealed Jack and Ashi do live happily ever after? One of the Kiwis here had that as their avatar because everything about it made Tumblr have a melt down.

We literally talked about that just up the page

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

No, yeah, I know. I just think that's the ending Jack deserves after putting up with all of that stuff. That, OR Ashi dies immediately after Aku and that's what spurs Jack's bittersweet ending. I just don't want to be jerked around by the story right at the end, basically.
There was a fan-comic from around the time that also took a shot at fixing the ending by inserting Rick from Rick and Morty, which I thought was pretty amusing:

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The punchline at the end made this worth reading.

 

[A Grey Cat]

One of the Kiwis here had that as their avatar because everything about it made Tumblr have a melt down

Tunblr had a meltdown because ashi was made into the love interest instead of being one of the scotsman's daughter's lesbian crushes despite the fact that the scotsmans daughters only appear for like two episodes and never even meet ashi properly.


Jezum crow I almost forgot how bad things were even back in 2013.

Pretty sure this was a meta-joke about R&M Season 3's premiere taking up Samurai Jack's slot on April Fools night.

At this point? I think samurai jack was the "better man" cause at least jack had the decency to actually end. Unlike R&M which has rotted from going on so long it's practically a skeleton of its old self.

 

[Lone Star]

Oh I remember hearing a lot of shit with that show, and all the fire it came under. The “slaves built this country” sermon, the ridiculous episode with the ghost slave, the one where Penny gets locked out of the house for breaking curfew, her mom doesn’t even want her finding a place at Suga Mama’s, and then Suga Mama abuses her. I know that locking your kid out for breaking curfew is/was something that happens, but considering shit like how much crime and human trafficking there is these days that’s wild to me. Hearing about Leslie Mahaffy’s murder also stuck with me.
Oh, and don’t forget about Maya. Having a character who’s defined by one or two personality traits is bad enough. That personality trait being “activist” is one of the worst things you can do.

Yeah, I saw all that shit too. Just wanted to use an example not many people talk about. Reboot is absolute fucking garbage.

The Samurai Jack finale wasn't that bad, come on.

"Oh hey, I have all of Aku's powers! Back to the past we go!"

We got robbed of the Guardian rematch. It was rushed and it was bad.