ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

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Another beatdown from Berkeley by a stick-wielding black man in MAGA hat

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Ginger Piglet said:
Meanwhile, the Antifa mob are simply sticking to the Zerg Rush.

What is it with the far left and Zerg Rushes? The Red Army in the early stages of Operation Barbarossa, the Chinese in Korea...
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When you have enough drones its very hard to stop human waves. They can be very effective if you don't come across an equally determined and decently trained enemy. It's why the Chinese struggled against the British in Korea.

Thing is you still need someone behind it to actually direct it all and this is what Antifa still lacks. Mostly because it's made up of wastrel anarchists and are mostly willing fools. The game changer won't come until someone tries taking command of them in certain areas.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Thing is you still need someone behind it to actually direct it all and this is what Antifa still lacks. Mostly because it's made up of wastrel anarchists and are mostly willing fools. The game changer won't come until someone tries taking command of them in certain areas.
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These kids are a bunch of spoiled narcissists who used to order people around. Good luck making them submit to discipline.
 
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i'm just glad they haven't begun taking pages out of the anarchist cookbook yet making their own bombs and shit to actually kill people, but i'm sure it's a matter a time before someone does, and when that happens, someone is gonna die and we're gonna have mini civil wars, mainly because if one side uses deadly chemicals to start killing people, what's stopping the other side from doing the same?
 
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Deadwaste said:
i'm just glad they haven't begun taking pages out of the anarchist cookbook yet making their own bombs and shit to actually kill people, but i'm sure it's a matter a time before someone does, and when that happens, someone is gonna die and we're gonna have mini civil wars, mainly because if one side uses deadly chemicals to start killing people, what's stopping the other side from doing the same?
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Nope.

First side to use them loses because that's the cue for the FBI to come in and start doing actual law enforcement on everyone's ass, they dont like unscheduled explosions, REALLY do not like em.

Remember militia violence in the late 80's and early 90's ?

All that did was ensure it's failure as nobody backs bomb throwers in this country, left or right.

Tim McVeigh's truck bomb singlehandedly destroyed the movement along with the Murrah building.

If it escalates, it will die even faster in a wave of arrests,raids, and federal indictments.

Right now, these are kids playing anarchist, and already getting cold feet at just that. They don't have the guts and a "lone crazy" in thier ranks is ten rimes more dangerous to them than the alt righr.
 
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Deadwaste said:
i'm just glad they haven't begun taking pages out of the anarchist cookbook yet making their own bombs and shit to actually kill people, but i'm sure it's a matter a time before someone does, and when that happens, someone is gonna die and we're gonna have mini civil wars, mainly because if one side uses deadly chemicals to start killing people, what's stopping the other side from doing the same?
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They probably have, to be fair. These aren't the sharpest tools in the box, and don't realise that the Anarchist Cookbook is mostly wrong about, well, everything. You know the urban legend that you could get high off "bananadine" from banana skins? Came from there.

For example, Anarchist Cookbook claims you can produce mercury fulminate (a very sensitive energetic compound used in detonators) on your kitchen stove with mercury from thermometers, ethanol, and nitric acid. The chemistry behind it is logical:

Hg + HNO3 + EtOH -> Hg(CNO)2 + CO2 + H2O + misc. waste products (balance it yourself if you must)

Unfortunately:

1. Thermometers nowadays don't contain mercury because of how fantastically toxic mercury is. That red stuff they have in them is usually some sort of low molecular weight alcohol.

2. Nitric acid is quite hard to come by because of its role in generating explosions. You can make it yourself with an electric arc and bubbling the resultant gas through water but it will be super impure.

3. Even if they did get pure reagents, boiling up mercury in your home is a spectacularly bad idea because it vapourises and you can breathe it in. HNO3 at the required level of purity tends to fume as well and the fumes are also rather toxic.

4. Mercury fulminate is stupendously sensitive to shock and friction; if they did produce it they'd almost certainly lose fingers.

One thing that isn't in Anarchist Cookbook that's explosive and they probably could generate themselves is TATP, which is produced by reacting acetone with hydrogen peroxide using sulphuric acid as a catalyst. Unfortunately your average antifa is stupid and impatient and failed chemistry so they'll end up either with a jar of nameless sludge or, worse, they get it right and end up with a huge volume of this stuff.

TATP is beloved of insurgents in Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan because it's easy to produce. It is also ridiculously easy to set off by accident and this is the reason they call it "Mother of Satan." If one of these Antifa speds did manage to make some TATP they'd probably explode themselves. No great loss, but they might get their brain matter all over my nice clean floors.

There's a reason why fora like Science Madness sneer at people asking about making explosives.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Antifa is primarily made up of drones. People who have never achieved anything of any serious note, with little in the way of outstanding achievement like personality, humour, or skill and so can willingly subsume themselves into "The Cause" something far larger than themselves. The issue is Antifa is made up almost entirely of drones with its officer class being either far from the battlefields, or simply have no force of personality and will to enforce discipline.
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This absolutely, 500%. You couldn't be more dead on, and it's sad in a way.

The thing is, it's Occupy Wall Street all over again. Their biggest breaking point is, they dont have any cohesion, they arent fighting for shit--they dont even want to fight. They'll throw firecrackers and burn flags out of misguided rage and angst, half-heartedly in the name of their "beliefs", they'll riot and break shit, but they aren't really fighting FOR anything, they dont really even have a cause, they're angry and edgy (but they are also sheltered--I talked to a girl once that was very much like the one who got punched, came from an upper middle-class household, had everything she wanted, stayed with her boyfriends, but very anarcho-communism. I was like, whatever lady). And they're not willing to lay anything down for their "cause". Hell I was on OWS's side the first time, but they made it known, they dont really want a fight. You make it uncomfortable for them at all, make it a battle of attrition, take away public wi-fi, they'll break down in a heartbeat.

They talk about fighting for a revolution, but they dont want a revolution because theyre so sheltered they dont see how much a fucking revolution would suck. Parts of Africa are such a shithole today because years ago, revolutionaries took up arms, they ended up burning down all the fucking farms and plantations to starve out the existing regimes, and now they're pissed because they dont have food and cant economically compete with neighboring countries that didnt do that because coffee plantations take generations to get big enough to be viable. When the revolution comes and they knock out the cable, they get hit in the head with a rock, and they got without food for a couple of meals, they'll wanna go home.

They arent going to get that many more members, especially not after this. Most of them dont want a fight, and nobody is going to look at this and see them running and getting their asses kicked, shoving each other to the ground to get away, and say "Gee I wanna get in on that!" Even at it's best of times, OWS ran out of people willing to join it in support. You could tweet your support all you want but they couldnt engage people enough to get them to acutally show up and support, to get anything done. Antifa is even more of a shitshow.
 
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Ginger Piglet said:
Meanwhile, the Antifa mob are simply sticking to the Zerg Rush.

What is it with the far left and Zerg Rushes? The Red Army in the early stages of Operation Barbarossa, the Chinese in Korea...
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The Red Army fought badly in the summer and autumn of 1941 due to poor leadership after Stalin's officer purges; it's the same reason they lost so many men against Finland in the Winter War. As strong new commanders like Zhukov and Koniev gained experience in battle, the Soviet forces reorganised and were able to push back the Germans.

"Zerg rushes" have never been part of military doctrine for any major power. Even the Chinese "short attacks" in Korea were infiltration assaults by fairly small units, usually done at night.
 
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Ginger Piglet said:
They probably have, to be fair. These aren't the sharpest tools in the box, and don't realise that the Anarchist Cookbook is mostly wrong about, well, everything. You know the urban legend that you could get high off "bananadine" from banana skins? Came from there.

For example, Anarchist Cookbook claims you can produce mercury fulminate (a very sensitive energetic compound used in detonators) on your kitchen stove with mercury from thermometers, ethanol, and nitric acid. The chemistry behind it is logical:

Hg + HNO3 + EtOH -> Hg(CNO)2 + CO2 + H2O + misc. waste products (balance it yourself if you must)

Unfortunately:

1. Thermometers nowadays don't contain mercury because of how fantastically toxic mercury is. That red stuff they have in them is usually some sort of low molecular weight alcohol.

2. Nitric acid is quite hard to come by because of its role in generating explosions. You can make it yourself with an electric arc and bubbling the resultant gas through water but it will be super impure.

3. Even if they did get pure reagents, boiling up mercury in your home is a spectacularly bad idea because it vapourises and you can breathe it in. HNO3 at the required level of purity tends to fume as well and the fumes are also rather toxic.

4. Mercury fulminate is stupendously sensitive to shock and friction; if they did produce it they'd almost certainly lose fingers.

One thing that isn't in Anarchist Cookbook that's explosive and they probably could generate themselves is TATP, which is produced by reacting acetone with hydrogen peroxide using sulphuric acid as a catalyst. Unfortunately your average antifa is stupid and impatient and failed chemistry so they'll end up either with a jar of nameless sludge or, worse, they get it right and end up with a huge volume of this stuff.

TATP is beloved of insurgents in Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan because it's easy to produce. It is also ridiculously easy to set off by accident and this is the reason they call it "Mother of Satan." If one of these Antifa speds did manage to make some TATP they'd probably explode themselves. No great loss, but they might get their brain matter all over my nice clean floors.

There's a reason why fora like Science Madness sneer at people asking about making explosives.
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Awwww, but I want them to imitate Weather Underground. At least the one at Greenwich Village.
 
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I noticed that you guys caught the major event at Berkley (props to you) so I got the other minor events the happened on Saturday.

I feel this picture speaks volumes about the current political climate.
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and Saturday was when antifa became public enemy number one.

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They'll continue to double-down on their bullshit, blissfully ignorant to how public opinion is turning against them.
 
As violent as they can be, I don't think any Antifa kiddos have the balls to kill anyone, at least not deliberately. I can see someone eventually dying due to punching the wrong person/firecracker and moltov cocktail shenanigans/crowd suffocation/etc though, probably a member of their own ranks given how amazingly stupid and incompetent they tend to be (seriously these kids are edging into Juggalo levels of stupidity, and I'm not sure there's a subculture or organization in existence that's stupider than juggalos).
 
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