Tabletop Community Watch

[Second Missing Primarch]

LOL, I don't think I've heard about "the aztec problem" before with regard to Trench Crusade. I guess these morons never understood that having the abrahamic religion version of hell opening up and spewing demons out would have an impact on other established religions around the globe?

Honestly, it was really funny. One guy threw a fit because people were saying that the Aztecs would probably side with hell and complained about cultural stereotyping and accused everyone of racism and was generally a giant pissbaby about the whole thing. He got booted from the Discord, and when he went to Reddit to keep complaining they actually sided with the mods over him and told him to touch grass. The devs seem to have gone hands-off, as usual. There's apparently a lore blurb somewhere about Spain having a semi-reliable trade route to the Americas and the natives driving off hell's attempts to invade the continent, but given their habit of shotgunning lore out at random across all their social media I haven't been able to see it.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Theres a little bit of revisionist history going on with regards to "The Aztec Question".

It wasn't the Christians kicking up a stink at the prospect of having the Aztecs batting for team Satan. It was the real, genuine, honest fans™ complaining that it was the soft bigotry of actual Satan worship that was the problem. How dare you assume that just because they're brown, enslave thousands of their enemies and engage in human sacrifice that they're not good people. What are you? Some kind of bigot?

If memory serves me correctly (and I'm trying to blot most of the stuff about Trench Crusade from my mind like a childhood abuse memory at this point), it was a Christian that raised the question of having the Americas in the game in the first place and it all went downhill from there. To paint it as everyone going full 1488 at the thought of Aztecs being included is a little disingenuous.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

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[Ghostse]

"You wouldn't excuse the Warcrimes Israel is committing against Palestine at the time of writing purely because they were themselves bullied in the past, so why should you do that with the Aztecs?"

Jesus those wikicucks are full buckbroken. The utter state of channers in current year.

Cool Cucked Chans.

 

[harbringer883]

Apparently GW has gotten a few million comments this week after they broke off a business contract with a Ukrainian publisher.

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What do you think, has the Ukraine conflict fallen out of the woke horde's RAM, or is GW about to get lynched for not being virtuous enough? Live by the Virtue Signal, die by the Virtue Signal.

Apparently GW has gotten a few million comments this week after they broke off a business contract with a Ukrainian publisher.

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What do you think, has the Ukraine conflict fallen out of the woke horde's RAM, or is GW about to get lynched for not being virtuous enough? Live by the Virtue Signal, die by the Virtue Signal.

No one besides redditors think that GW cares about any cause or person except their profit lol and can see through their virtue signal.

So 1D6chan updated their Trench Crusade page that includes all the controversy that the people behind Trench Crusade went through. https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Trench_Crusade#Controversies

And here's a excerpt from the pageView attachment 7673498

Could have been worse tbh

 

[Buckaroo]

Honestly, it was really funny. One guy threw a fit because people were saying that the Aztecs would probably side with hell and complained about cultural stereotyping and accused everyone of racism and was generally a giant pissbaby about the whole thing. He got booted from the Discord, and when he went to Reddit to keep complaining they actually sided with the mods over him and told him to touch grass. The devs seem to have gone hands-off, as usual. There's apparently a lore blurb somewhere about Spain having a semi-reliable trade route to the Americas and the natives driving off hell's attempts to invade the continent, but given their habit of shotgunning lore out at random across all their social media I haven't been able to see it.

Theres a little bit of revisionist history going on with regards to "The Aztec Question".

It wasn't the Christians kicking up a stink at the prospect of having the Aztecs batting for team Satan. It was the real, genuine, honest fans™ complaining that it was the soft bigotry of actual Satan worship that was the problem. How dare you assume that just because they're brown, enslave thousands of their enemies and engage in human sacrifice that they're not good people. What are you? Some kind of bigot?

If memory serves me correctly (and I'm trying to blot most of the stuff about Trench Crusade from my mind like a childhood abuse memory at this point), it was a Christian that raised the question of having the Americas in the game in the first place and it all went downhill from there. To paint it as everyone going full 1488 at the thought of Aztecs being included is a little disingenuous.

It started when someone was working on homebrew for Aztecs and went "well obviously their gods were actually demons all along/demons hijacked their religion" which made someone claiming to have strong Aztec heritage upset so the homebrew guy (who was well liked in the community) told him to cry about it and the mods obviously sided with him and banned the poor oppressed brown person.

 

[Ghostse]

banned the poor oppressed brown person.

Based.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

Based.

The Aztec apologist was apparently being really cunty and aggressive even after the mods told him to chill out. He even acknowledged that he'd been a dickhead about the whole thing, though still tried to paint himself in the best light possible when he was defending himself on Reddit. I'm not surprised he ate the ban over homebrew guy.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

"You wouldn't excuse the Warcrimes Israel is committing against Palestine at the time of writing purely because they were themselves bullied in the past, so why should you do that with the Aztecs?"

Jesus those wikicucks are full buckbroken. The utter state of channers in current year.

Cool Cucked Chans.

What in god's name makes you think 1d6chan is ran by channers? It's not. It's ran by Sigmarxism tourists who noticed a chance to steal 1d4chan and take control, so they did.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

It started when someone was working on homebrew for Aztecs and went "well obviously their gods were actually demons all along/demons hijacked their religion" which made someone claiming to have strong Aztec heritage upset so the homebrew guy (who was well liked in the community) told him to cry about it and the mods obviously sided with him and banned the poor oppressed brown person

You know, it doesn't even sound far-fetched to say that the religion centered around human sacrifice might be demonic in nature. Would it really be surprising that they would find kindred spirits in another cruel group that hates Christianity?

 

[Flexo]

You know, it doesn't even sound far-fetched to say that the religion centered around human sacrifice might be demonic in nature. Would it really be surprising that they would find kindred spirits in another cruel group that hates Christianity?

I mean it's a very, very old concept in Judiasm and early Christianity both that the pagan gods were demons/fallen angels leading the other nations astray.

So like... this is the least surprising thing once you hear the game runs on that worldview.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

I mean it's a very, very old concept in Judiasm and early Christianity both that the pagan gods were demons/fallen angels leading the other nations astray.

So like... this is the least surprising thing once you hear the game runs on that worldview.

That is also true, but the Aztecs were particularly bad offenders in that regard on account of their religion explicitly calling for ripping people's hearts out and wearing their skin as cloaks in order to appease the gods. Compared to some of the other pagan religions of the world, they were just brutal to the point that even a tolerant man would have to ask if their gods were demonic beings.

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

So 1D6chan updated their Trench Crusade page that includes all the controversy that the people behind Trench Crusade went through. https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Trench_Crusade#Controversies

And here's a excerpt from the pageView attachment 7673498

They actually put a warning reserved for, and i quote their "own" wiki,

"This article contains something widely considered by /tg/ to be absolutely disgusting, like pedophilia, rape porn, or any other disturbing topic, like bathing in your allies' blood.

The reason? The piddy puddly retarded lore around some of the hell factions
B-grade body horror in a mass consumed tabletop game has to be held to the same warning as rape and pedophilia, amazing little self own

 

[harbringer883]

What in god's name makes you think 1d6chan is ran by channers? It's not. It's ran by Sigmarxism tourists who noticed a chance to steal 1d4chan and take control, so they did.

I am actually pretty certain 1d6chan is literally run by reddit mods from 40klore and sigmarxism

 

[Cnidarian]

Aztec apologia is so fucking weird because their descendants are indirectly on the side of the colonists. So were the competing city states with a 10% different religion. Imagine being angry on behalf of the Jews for the extinction of the Amalekites.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

That is also true, but the Aztecs were particularly bad offenders in that regard on account of their religion explicitly calling for ripping people's hearts out and wearing their skin as cloaks in order to appease the gods.

Man, I never get invited to the fun parties.

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Aztec apologia is so fucking weird because their descendants are indirectly on the side of the colonists. So were the competing city states with a 10% different religion. Imagine being angry on behalf of the Jews for the extinction of the Amalekites.

Its easy to rely on people's ignorance of history to keep up the perpetual outrage about current year, while hilariously diminishing non-european powers' abilities to do things as quaint and white as slavery, realpolitik, and other assorted atrocities

 

[Buckaroo]

You know, it doesn't even sound far-fetched to say that the religion centered around human sacrifice might be demonic in nature. Would it really be surprising that they would find kindred spirits in another cruel group that hates Christianity?

That's fair, but you need to remember that in the circles that flocked to TC it's only cool to shit on Christianity. Hell, Christianity in the setting is super grimdark and edgy so I doubt there's even much of a difference between the two.

I mean it's a very, very old concept in Judiasm and early Christianity both that the pagan gods were demons/fallen angels leading the other nations astray.

So like... this is the least surprising thing once you hear the game runs on that worldview.

The setting doesn't actually run on that world view, iirc faith in general is enough to keep you (relatively) safe from the hordes of hell since one of the most powerful nations is the Islamic Iron Sultanate.

 

[Cnidarian]

The setting doesn't actually run on that world view, iirc faith in general is enough to keep you (relatively) safe from the hordes of hell since one of the most powerful nations is the Islamic Iron Sultanate.

It's a default tabletop RPG assumption that all monotheistic/abrahamic religions are equally blessed if not true. This isn't going to change.

 

[Muad'Dick]

It started when someone was working on homebrew for Aztecs and went "well obviously their gods were actually demons all along/demons hijacked their religion" which made someone claiming to have strong Aztec heritage upset so the homebrew guy (who was well liked in the community) told him to cry about it and the mods obviously sided with him and banned the poor oppressed brown person.

This is a hell of a lot funnier than I remember. I think I must have only started paying attention after the ban.

There was so much OC donut steal floating around that discord you tended to tune a lot of it out.