Mega Rad Gun Thread

I was curious what the actual opinions are of sig sisters so I trawled a few sigger forums for fun and have determined that while half of the sigger sisters aren't delusional enough to defend the P320 the half that are have the following opinions.
  • A non "upgraded" P320 can not fire without something pressing on the safety and trigger and it has never happened.
  • It always happens in holsters isn't that suspicious
  • Cops lie about their sigs shooting themselves and have gotten in trouble for lying about their P320s randomly going off.
  • LIBERALS??????
  • They have a copy paste where anyone bringing up the P320s shitty design gets a giant paragraph asking them to prove an unmodified post-"upgrade" P320 has fired without the trigger being pulled.
  • No analysis has proved the P320 is dangerous and the ones that have are just speculation and theoretical failures so are invalid.
  • When the P320 post-upgraded has shot someone without any input or holster issue it was damaged in some way or not maintained properly
 
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Shit like this will just keep happening until someone high up the food chain in the military or Congress starts getting loud about it. Even then, Sig has become so embedded in the military that it would take years for Sig and Ron Cohen to finally pay for their crimes. The Sig brand needs to become absolutely radioactive in the 2A "community," much more than it already is.

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The problem with the M5 and M7 is that the entire thing was driven by the new projectile designed by Picatinny. That projectile was given out the various companies who bid along with a set of performance specifications. With those 2 constraints were what drove the development in the direction it went. I think the solution that sig came up with on the ammunition side is innovative and we will likely see it proliferate in an attempt to get better performance and higher pressures from cartridges. That being said, considering the military is in the process of wide scale adoption the rumors I have heard out of the Sig ammo plant jive with what I have heard from Winchester. Sig is having issues scaling production of the ammo and the DoD is fast tracking Winchester’s contract to build a new manufacturing facility in Lake City for the new round.

ETA: Siggers get off your ass and help fix the problem.
 
Just revert back to the 1911, hard to argue with a grip safety. Sure it's ancient and defunct, but it has provenance!

Fuck it go really oldschool, Colt Single Action Army's for everyone!

Defunct means obsolete or no longer supported, neither of which could be applied to the 1911 or the .45 ACP cartridge. The 1911 is still a very popular platform, and the .45 ACP is still a popular cartridge. Remember that the 9mm Luger is just as old as .45 ACP. The 1911 can be easily updated to be just as capable as any modern Wonder Nine, as the 2011 from STI/Staccato and others proves. It can mount lights, lasers, be cut for optics, be a suppressor host, and can even run 9mm in double stack magazines. So calling it "ancient and defunct" just makes you sound like a biased zoomer who thinks any pistol that isn't plastic and striker fired is not worth consideration.
 
How pervasive is this problem?
At this point any reasonable, smart gun owner will assume every single instance of this firearm is unsafe.

I’ve heard somewhere that they’re going back to M4s for now
It was stated as such in the USAF notice.

I always thought the bullpup should have won the rifle portion of the competition, but I'm also a fan of bullpups.
You may be the last. Literally everyone is moving away from bullpups.
 
Defunct means obsolete or no longer supported, neither of which could be applied to the 1911 or the .45 ACP cartridge. The 1911 is still a very popular platform, and the .45 ACP is still a popular cartridge. Remember that the 9mm Luger is just as old as .45 ACP. The 1911 can be easily updated to be just as capable as any modern Wonder Nine, as the 2011 from STI/Staccato and others proves. It can mount lights, lasers, be cut for optics, be a suppressor host, and can even run 9mm in double stack magazines. So calling it "ancient and defunct" just makes you sound like a biased zoomer who thinks any pistol that isn't plastic and striker fired is not worth consideration.
Staccatos are great.

Too bad it takes $3k plus to get a 1911 that works as well as a $500 Glock, which is why they're really not appropriate for a "duty" pistol.
 
Defunct means obsolete or no longer supported, neither of which could be applied to the 1911 or the .45 ACP cartridge. The 1911 is still a very popular platform, and the .45 ACP is still a popular cartridge. Remember that the 9mm Luger is just as old as .45 ACP. The 1911 can be easily updated to be just as capable as any modern Wonder Nine, as the 2011 from STI/Staccato and others proves. It can mount lights, lasers, be cut for optics, be a suppressor host, and can even run 9mm in double stack magazines. So calling it "ancient and defunct" just makes you sound like a biased zoomer who thinks any pistol that isn't plastic and striker fired is not worth consideration.
The 1911 is obsolescent.
If pressed it's still a serviceable side arm but there are many better options available today.
 
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