Mega Rad Gun Thread

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Staccatos are great.

Too bad it takes $3k plus to get a 1911 that works as well as a $500 Glock, which is why they're really not appropriate for a "duty" pistol.

That's being a bit disingenuous. There are plenty of lower priced 1911s than run just as reliably as a GLOCK. The US military issued them for nearly 80 years because they worked, and worked well. Typically when you're paying a higher price for a 1911 it's for higher grade features, like better sights, better build quality/tighter tolerances, better quality parts, etc. But any military style 1911 from a reputable manufacturer should run just fine, you're just not going to get the fancy stuff like more modern sights, extended safety, mag well funnel, etc.
 
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Defunct means obsolete or no longer supported, neither of which could be applied to the 1911 or the .45 ACP cartridge. The 1911 is still a very popular platform, and the .45 ACP is still a popular cartridge. Remember that the 9mm Luger is just as old as .45 ACP. The 1911 can be easily updated to be just as capable as any modern Wonder Nine, as the 2011 from STI/Staccato and others proves. It can mount lights, lasers, be cut for optics, be a suppressor host, and can even run 9mm in double stack magazines. So calling it "ancient and defunct" just makes you sound like a biased zoomer who thinks any pistol that isn't plastic and striker fired is not worth consideration.
That's kinda like an AK then. It's popular in civilian circles, is still used by many countries around the world, and it can host all the modern force multipliers (optics, suppressors, lasers).

That doesn't mean that any modern military should actually adopt that thing in the 21st century.
 
Not the first time that has ever happened. I recall how Remington worked really hard to cover up the dangerous design defect with the 700 series, that would cause it to discharge without pulling the trigger.
Yep they lied for DECADES.
The M7 is officially adopted by the army already, but that's the funny part: hardly any units have adopted them because they're fucking garbage. The 277 fury is overpressured ammo that destroys barrels in less then 2000 rounds. For context, it took roughly 300-500 rounds during the Iraq war to kill one insurgent in long distance combat. The heavy machine guns that Sig designed to replace the M250? Also garbage, because Sig, in a race to win the contract, made the barrel impossible to hot swap to keep it within the requested guidelines for the US Army. You NEED that barrel to be hot swapp-able because it's job is to lay down supression fire or turn the enemy into mulch for long periods of time. And once again, the 277 fury is garbage, so imagine putting that fucker into combat and having to swap out barrel after barrel after barrel. It's not practical AT ALL.
Yep the Army was fucking retarded for not mandating a quick swap barrel in a fucking GPMG.

The M250 gets so hot firing that retarded round that allegedly barrels are getting warped by less than 5,000 rounds being put through them.... A fucking BELT FED MACHINE GUN
I haven’t heard of any QC issues with the M5 yet, but they’re undoubtedly going to show up as they get mass produced and shipped out to grunts. Really the main issue is that it is a solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist and a downgrade from the M4 in a lot of respects. Given how crooked Sig is I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole operation was devised to Jew the U.S. government (and by extension, the taxpayer) out of billions of dollars.
The M5 is having issues with barrel wear and allegedly the M250 will literally explode and become non functional when (not if) the bi-metal case ruptured and explodes in the breech.

M5 is also having issues with loose barrels and allegedly 5+ MoA accuracy
Swapping to the M4 is most likely because it's the only other widely available weapon on base. Base armories aren't very big (with a few exceptions, but it's Global Strike so there's most likely just an LRS armory, a Security Forces armory, and a CATM armory), so when the M18 was adopted, the M9 inventory was most likely shipped to Robins AFB. OSI agents were carrying the P226 when the M9 was the standard issue for everyone else, not sure if they changed their service weapon or not, but they wouldn't have enough to let everyone required to arm take theirs.
Yep they'll use M4A1s for the time being
I just want to know whose idea was it to strap a fucking computer of a scope onto grunts rifles, cause those are NOT going to last a week in heavy combat, I guarentee you. To quote the old addage: If you design something to be idiot proof, the world will simply create a better idiot.
Lol the sight was a vain attempt by the US Army to get to skip marksmanship training and have the sight do all the work.... Lol

Enjoy your $11k bricked sight
Because nobody knows 100% why it's going off, yes. Either Israeli-carry with an empty chamber or get something else. Everyone who got shot was carrying it just fine up until it went off.

Dead trigger that lead to touching the bolt dropping the striker, more shit parts. That on top of the barrels sucking ass for accuracy.
Yep. The M7 and M250 are also getting a reputation for being gigantic pieces of shit.
r/SigSauer jannies going into overdrive. people are posting about the latest "incident" every minute and getting perma'd left and right.

CLEAN IT UP!
Lol, they want their free LEGION P320s
I've never felt better to be completely justified in my dislike of the P320 since it was adopted, even before the drop issue was discovered.
Here's an old vid about the clusterfuck that was the XM17 program that led to this shitty pistol.
(notice how the trials 19X has a cursed thumb safety in the thumbnail, gross)

Yep, too bad SIG offered them at cost.
Amazi meme, I'm using it
Shit like this will just keep happening until someone high up the food chain in the military or Congress starts getting loud about it. Even then, Sig has become so embedded in the military that it would take years for Sig and Ron Cohen to finally pay for their crimes. The Sig brand needs to become absolutely radioactive in the 2A "community," much more than it already is.

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Ahaha yeah
I would like to take this occasion to remind everyone that the military should have adopted the M&P 2.0 and called it a day.
Yep, good MiUSA design, works fine.
The problem with the M5 and M7 is that the entire thing was driven by the new projectile designed by Picatinny. That projectile was given out the various companies who bid along with a set of performance specifications. With those 2 constraints were what drove the development in the direction it went. I think the solution that sig came up with on the ammunition side is innovative and we will likely see it proliferate in an attempt to get better performance and higher pressures from cartridges. That being said, considering the military is in the process of wide scale adoption the rumors I have heard out of the Sig ammo plant jive with what I have heard from Winchester. Sig is having issues scaling production of the ammo and the DoD is fast tracking Winchester’s contract to build a new manufacturing facility in Lake City for the new round.

ETA: Siggers get off your ass and help fix the problem.
Lol the .277 FURY is a retarded waste of time and money.
Maybe the gun that should have won (The M9A4) will get a second look now.
Ehh another Beretta that's a slight upgrade to the current one?

Nah
Because sig was willing to give it to them at cost to get the contract. We can see how that's working out
Exactly, the US DoD was being cheap as fuck, as they are with essentially any mass issued firearm post ~1950.
 
Ruger won.
ruger won.webp
 
Lol the sight was a vain attempt by the US Army to get to skip marksmanship training and have the sight do all the work.... Lol
You’re kidding. That’s lazy even for the fucking army. I can’t wait until that comes back to bite them in the ass when we end up with more dead men who couldn’t aim for shit versus Muhammad with a rusted out AKM and iron sights.
 
Frankly the US should have switched to a (US made) Glock Gen 3 clone almost a decade ago. The purpose of a sidearm isn't to be extremely reliable or durable, but to either be a back-up for your main weapon system or for non-combatants, the G17 being advantageous for the former due to being lighter and the latter for having a glut of OEM and AM parts due to its extreme popularity in the states, plus being proven as a reliable carry gun as shown by the 99% of the US police force carrying one without severing an artery. But no, kick-backs and outright corruption are dejure law in the upper branches of the military and even a dead airman likely wont even slow the degeneration.
 
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