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A Cassandra is someone who makes correct predictions and is never believed. For the burger suit you need to be a Cramer, someone who makes predictions only for the opposite to happen.
Re-read what I said. I never said they were a Cassandra, but that they believed themselves to be and doubled down again and again when people tell them they're wrong.
 
fuck, that does sound reasonable. IDK my gut is very against masked feds for ANY reason but your making a fair amount of sense and at the end of the day I dont want my country overrun with immigrants that are not accounted for Im just empathetic to the way we go about removing them and presidents it sets and how we will be remembered for the process.

I need to meditate on this issue but I really appreciate you sharing your side of things in a genuine way.
It's well worth bothering brownies to show an ID in order to preserve our country. In 2025 we're well and truly sick of the weaponized taking of offense by people who hate us and want us replaced.
 
You.

The question of predetermination is gay and people who quibble over it are gigantic cocksucking faggots. Don't give me that "THEN WHENCE COMETH THE EVIL?" I don't take philosophical tips from a society that bums little boys.

The immortal soul, the GÖTTERFUNKEN inside you, is divine. I choose to believe that we are given free reign in our lives and we are able to do so because we are imparted with a sliver God - made in his image. If you choose to believe otherwise that's fine, maybe go lay down in a ditch and die you fucking soulless automaton insect.
God's ultimate gift to us is free will, because it seems like every time he started to interfere in the old testament, people became reliant upon him and stopped figuring shit out for themselves. So he stopped interfering and has decided that we must decide our own destinies, whether that is to embrace him or reject him. What's important is that it is OUR choice. Not his, not satan's. our. choice. Because God loves us so, he gave us free will, because that is the greatest gift he could give us.
 
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This was listed in their "humor" category. I can't believe they think that any of is humorous.

How I Came to Be in the Epstein Files
The Atlantic (archive.ph)
By Alexandra Petri
2025-07-25 20:54:26GMT
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I was taking soup to the orphans, as usual, when a young man I’d never before met seized me by the arm. “Donald,” he said. “My name is Barack Obama, although that’s not important right now. In fact, you’ve already forgotten it. Before I matriculate at Harvard Law School, I must introduce you to someone who’s going to change your life.”

I looked at my watch. It was 1987.

“Who?” I asked.

“A man with whom you have nothing in common,” the mysterious figure went on. “Not one single thing. Not even enigmas. His name is Jeffrey.”

“Great!” I said. I loved to be introduced to people, in case they could help me with the orphans or connect me to a good sackcloth dealer. I was wearing a lot of sackcloth at that time, out of humility. I put down the biography of William McKinley that I had been reading in order to learn whether tariffs were good or bad. I had hoped that I could read it to the orphans, after we finished with the soup. But that could wait. “Please, introduce me.”



Thus began almost two decades of association that were nothing but miserable for me. I don’t know if you have any friends with whom you have nothing in common, but that was how it was with me and this guy. I assume! I never found out what he did, or how exactly he made his money, or even what his interests were. I would look at him and think, What a head of hair! “Even better than William McKinley’s!” I would mouth silently to myself. Then I would notice that, below the hair, his mouth was moving, and I’d try to guess what he had been saying, so that I could answer appropriately. Usually, I would just laugh and say, “You know that’s right!”

“You’re a pal,” Jeffrey would tell me. I wondered if I really was a pal. I spent so little time understanding what he had to say, and so much time lost in my own world, thinking about William McKinley and wondering what tariffs were. Tariffs—what a beautiful sound that word has. Tariff: the tip of the tongue taking a trip from the glorious Ta to the explosion of riff!



Again and again, my new friend would drag me to parties that I had no interest in attending. I was miserable. I sat in the front row at the Victoria’s Secret fashion show with my biography of William McKinley open on my lap. But it was hard to read in the dark room, and I was not getting to the part that explained what tariffs were as fast as I would have liked.

“I don’t want to go to another of Jeffrey’s island soirees,” I complained at one point. “I just want to stay in and read up about tariffs. I don’t feel that I understand them yet.” Everybody knows how much I love reading and how zealously I guard my reading time.

“No,” the mysterious man said. “It’s very important that you attend these parties. We need you in pictures. It’s for the conspiracy.”

I could tell the conspiracy was very important to him, so I always wound up going.



“Come on the plane,” Jeffrey said once. “It’s called the Lolita Express.”

“Sure,” I said. This was the most excited I had been in some time. I had no idea that Jeffrey also loved Nabokov. “I love a literary classic with an unreliable narrator.”

On the plane, I was disappointed. I searched it up and down for books to read but did not find any. Not even The Art of Translation!

“You should call your next plane the Ada, or Ardor: A Family-Chronicle Express,” I suggested. Jeffrey didn’t laugh. Now that I think back, I am beginning to doubt that Jeffrey had even read Lolita!



Jeffrey claims I met Melania on his plane, but I am certain I was with the orphans that week. Once I asked Melania about it.

“Have you ever been on that plane?” I asked. “Is that where we met? I don’t think that would have been how.”

She shrugged. “Could be. I do a lot of conspiracy things, what with all the body doubles. What do you remember?”

“I remember approaching you. I said, ‘I respect women too much to have any sense of what you look like physically, but there is something about your soul that makes me think of tariffs.’ And then you said, ‘Oh, no.’ And I said, ‘No, it’s good. Tariff is the most beautiful word in the English language.’”

“That does sound more like you,” she said.



Jeffrey kept inviting me to parties or, worse, urging me to throw parties of my own with themes that he suggested. I didn’t want to, but never told him so. That would have been impolite.

“I’m having a party,” I told Jeffrey once. “The theme is respect for women. I respect women so much that I feel bad even singling them out to say that I respect them, because really they’re just people. It’s a party about that, and I’d like you to be there.”

“That’s not a good theme,” he said. “Do a different theme instead.” So we did Jeffrey’s theme. I was very unhappy about it. We were the only two people there. I spent the whole party in the corner with my book about William McKinley, trying to get to the tariff part. I didn’t, though. It was too loud.



The mysterious man who introduced me to Jeffrey in the first place came back in roughly 2002. He had a book for Jeffrey that he wanted me to sign. “Do a picture,” he suggested.

“But,” I said, “I never write a picture.”

“It’s okay,” he said. He had an autopen with him. “I always carry this, for conspiracy reasons.” He used the pen to make a very obscene doodle and then pointed for me to sign my name to it. There was text above it.

“What does the text say?” I asked. “It doesn’t imply I share a creepy secret with this man, does it? I am beginning to think that he is not on the level, and I wouldn’t like to have it in writing that we had shared a creepy secret if, say, he were later revealed to be a terrible pedophile.”

“It says, ‘I love tariffs!’” the man said.

“Great,” I said. I signed it enthusiastically.



Over the years, the man kept coming to me and asking me to pose for pictures or make incriminating videotapes “for the files.” I should have asked more about the files, now that I think about it. “What are the files for?” I should have said. But he was clearly so passionate about them that I did not want to rain on his parade. When pressed, he said, “Conspiracies to do with the 2016 election,” or, “Conspiracies to do with the 2020 election,” or, “Conspiracies generally,” or, “Ask Dan Bongino.”

“We’re going to put all of this into files,” he explained. “Reams and reams of really damning stuff. And then we’re going to keep them secret. And you need to keep asking for them. Don’t take no for an answer.”

“This conspiracy confuses me,” I said. “You have spent decades painstakingly assembling this file, but you also will hide it from everyone, and I have to ask for it to be released?”

“Yes,” he said. “But then you have to stop asking for it to be released. Abruptly, and as suspiciously as you can. Indeed, if Congress shows any interest in having it released, have the speaker of the House shut them down for the summer.”

“But,” I said, “why would Congress listen to me?”

“He’ll listen,” the man said, and winked. “You’ll be the president, although many of the people who voted for you will be people who have felt for a long time that there is a secret conspiracy of elite pedophiles and that you are the one to help them blow it wide open. So they might not be happy when you start calling the files ‘boring.’”

“Why would they care so much?”

“The idea that there are secretly elite cabals of pedophiles wherever you look has been the stuff of conspiracy theories for years. Your supporters will be particularly interested in such things.” He paused. “But this time there’s an actual man preying on actual girls. That’ll be the horrible thing about this: a lurid conspiracy theory wrapped around real horrors that happened to real girls.” He got quiet for a moment.

I was thinking about something else. “You said I would be president,” I said, my voice hushed with wonder. “Can I do tariffs, as president? Like William McKinley did?”

He shrugged. “Sure, I guess. Is that really your only question about this?”

I nodded. “Tariffs are all I think about.” I halted for a moment. “And they’re—they’re a good idea, right? Tariffs?”

“Are they a good idea? Are they a good idea?” He laughed. “Why, you might as well ask if there is reason to cast doubt on the legitimacy of my birth certificate!”

I frowned. “Is there?” He didn’t answer. “Is there?”

But he had already vanished into the parking lot, clutching his precious files.
 
It was thought by many to be impossible until 2022. You’re right they don’t quite have it figured out but the original claim was that fission is coming and it will alter the course of humanity. The fact that it was proven to be experimentally possible is a giant step towards fission that shits on naysayers.

I doubt you'll find very many that ever claimed that fusion energy was impossible. Most people who have an understanding of the complexities involved will tell you that the development of fusion energy as a viable energy source by will an incredibly long and expensive process that will hopefully result in our grandchildren's grandchildren reaping the rewards.

Fusion energy is very much a "Plant a tree whose shade you will never sit under." sort of thing, and anybody alive today who thinks they're going to be witnessing so much as a single watt of excess fusion energy within their lifetime is laughably optimistic.

Fusion will continue to be "ten years away" for many, many more decades to come.
 
My father was stopped by ICE multiple times back when he lived in southern Texas and would go on nightdrives. All that happened was they pulled him over, asked for his ID, he gave it, then they let him go.


ICE isn't whipping out a color chart ala Family Guy and black bagging you if you're too swarthy.
And the funny part is a lot of the ICE and BP agents along the border are very swarthy themselves. Nothing like browns arresting and deporting browns for the glory of the White man.
 
It's well worth bothering brownies to show an ID in order to preserve our country. In 2025 we're well and truly sick of the weaponized taking of offense by people who hate us and want us replaced.
Im highly sympathetic to that position you dont think I am? Its about the way we go about this and how we are remembered I care about.
I think people should be handed a card with the words "I love the United States of America!" written on it. If you can't say it in any recognizably American accent (anywhere from Brooklyn Jew, Southern Good ol' Boy, Midwestern Drunk, West Coast Fag, or even Niggerese), ICE puts a .223 through your skull on the spot and lime your body.

These people have been here far too long and I'm tired of pretending like we have to treat them with any amount decorum when they can't respect the basic legal concepts of borders and citizenship.
No, I wont agree with such a dark path for ANY ends much less my own perceived prosperity, Id rather have America be consumed by her failures and die in the glow of the ideals she was born in then be corrupted and perverted into a terrorstate whos only claim to fame is the brutal obedience that characterizes all its denizens.

There is alot of countries that want to check your papers or shoot you, most are in Africa, Id reccomend you all go travel there and see if you still feel its a model ideal for a society,
 
Oh no you guys, Media Matters might have to shut down!

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Media Matters, a nonprofit group that has played a key role in liberal politics, is struggling to withstand months of legal assaults by President Trump’s allies, offering a glimpse of what might be in store for even well-funded targets of his retribution campaigns.

The organization, which is funded by some of the Democratic Party’s biggest donors, has racked up about $15 million in legal fees over the past 20 months to defend itself against lawsuits by Elon Musk, in addition to investigations by Mr. Trump’s Federal Trade Commission and Republican state attorneys general.

The group has slashed the size of its staff and scrambled to raise more cash from skittish donors, according to documents and interviews with 11 people familiar with the organization’s fight to survive.

That might not be enough. Media Matters tried to settle with Mr. Musk by offering concessions, but the sides were far apart and talks fizzled. Even when the group has triumphed in court, Mr. Musk has appealed or filed new cases elsewhere. As a last resort, it has considered shuttering, according to interviews and an internal document.

Publicly, the group has said that it has no plans to close, and that it is committed to defending itself as a matter of principle.

“Unlike some major media entities that have recently caved to pressure, we understand that this battle is larger than us,” Angelo Carusone, the president of Media Matters, said in a statement. “That’s why we continue to carry out our mission and fight in court.”

Even as the battle continues, Media Matters stands as an example of how legal warfare waged by powerful ideological opponents can squelch influential voices and stifle political dissent. The group says it has dialed back its criticism of Mr. Musk and the Trump F.T.C. Media Matters has also been frozen out by some allies. And it has faced plummeting staff morale, rising infighting and security concerns.

All that has proved quite a change in fortune for the influential group.

Media Matters raised nearly $250 million in the two decades between its creation in 2003 and the end of 2023, establishing itself as a force in Democratic politics by effectively undermining major right-wing media figures and politicians.

The bleak outlook now facing the group underscores the serious harms that can be inflicted when the Trump administration and its allies train the vast resources of government or billionaire bank accounts on perceived enemies.

It leaves targets facing a tricky choice: whether to spend heavily and fight back, or negotiate settlements that risk backlash for abandoning their convictions.

Case in point: The parent companies of ABC News and CBS News were criticized for caving to Mr. Trump when they agreed to donate millions of dollars to his presidential library foundation to settle lawsuits that experts believe the media outlets could have won in court.

Elite law firms diverged in strategy when they were targeted by the Trump administration with executive orders and inquiries after their lawyers worked against him or his administration. Those that fought back worried about losing clients and revenue, but have prevailed in court. Those that struck deals have lost several top partners discomfited by what some saw as a capitulation.

When Harvard refused to comply with demands from the Trump administration, $2.2 billion in federal research funding was withheld.

The Global Alliance for Responsible Media, a nonprofit group, shut down last year rather than defend itself against a lawsuit brought by Mr. Musk’s social media platform over research accusing the platform of enabling hateful online content.

Targeting Donors

Media Matters has been defending itself on more legal fronts and for longer than most targets of Trump allies, and its identity is more fundamentally linked to fighting Republicans and their allies. It is also particularly susceptible because of its dependence on maintaining the confidence — and confidentiality — of rich Democratic benefactors.

Founded in 2003 by David Brock, a self-described “right-wing hit man” who switched sides and became an enforcer for Democrats, Media Matters set out to neutralize what Mr. Brock saw as a powerful Republican information ecosystem. The group became the flagship in a constellation of nonprofits formed or acquired by Mr. Brock to help Democrats and undermine Republicans.

Media Matters is made up of two separate nonprofits registered under sections of the tax code — one for charities and the other for social welfare groups — that allow them to accept contributions without publicly disclosing donors’ identities, or so-called dark money.

Some major donors have been revealed through news reports or voluntary disclosures, including the investor George Soros, the clothing entrepreneur Susie Tompkins Buell and the hedge fund manager Stephen F. Mandel Jr.

Initially, Media Matters targeted conservative talk radio and Fox News through fact-checking, advertiser boycotts and what Mr. Brock described as “guerrilla warfare and sabotage.”

Mr. Carusone took over as president in late 2016 and began trying to recast the group as more of a journalistic outlet covering the rise of the so-called alt-right, and of misinformation and hateful content online, including social media. Mr. Brock stayed on as chairman, but ceded day-to-day control, and eventually left the group in 2022.

Mr. Musk had purchased Twitter earlier that year, and had begun removing content moderation rules. Media Matters homed in on the platform, which Mr. Musk later renamed X.

In November 2023, Media Matters published research showing that ads appeared on X next to antisemitic and pro-Nazi content. The report — along with a post in which Mr. Musk endorsed an antisemitic conspiracy theory — contributed to an advertiser exodus from X that cost the company more than $75 million in revenue through the end of that year.

Later that month, X sued in federal court, claiming that Media Matters had “manipulated” the site to bypass safeguards and display advertisements next to incendiary posts in an effort to damage X’s relationships with advertisers. In a December 2023 livestream on X, Mr. Musk took aim at Media Matters, telling listeners, “We will pursue not just the organization, but anyone funding that organization.”

Mr. Musk and X did not respond to requests for comment.

The suit was quickly followed by investigations from the offices of Republican attorneys general Ken Paxton of Texas and Andrew Bailey of Missouri, probing Mr. Musk’s claims that the group had manipulated data in its research about X and suggesting donors in their states may have been misled.

Media Matters sued, and a federal court blocked the Texas investigation, ruling that the state attorneys general were likely infringing on the organization’s First Amendment rights. Missouri agreed to drop its investigation. Still, the legal fights cost Media Matters nearly $2 million.

Mounting Bills and Disputes

After Mr. Trump retook the White House last fall, Mr. Brock was brought back into the Media Matters fold to help navigate the X litigation. But he soon clashed with others, and has been sidelined.

Some involved in the group wanted it to consider declaring bankruptcy or making concessions to settle the litigation, since Mr. Musk, the world’s richest man, seemed undeterred by the cost or setbacks. X filed lawsuits against Media Matters in other countries, including Singapore and Ireland, in what lawyers for the advocacy group called “a vendetta-driven campaign of libel tourism.” When a U.S. federal court ruled that the Irish case should be shut down and the Singaporean one paused, X appealed.

In early February, frustrated by what some at Media Matters saw as the high cost and slow pace of their lawyers at the influential Democratic firm Elias Law Group, the advocacy group began transitioning the X cases to different law firms. An Elias lawyer notified the group that it owed roughly $4 million.

“We understand this case has been and remains very difficult for everyone involved, as was Musk’s intention when he brought it,” Ezra Reese, the chair of Elias’s political law group, wrote in an email to Mr. Carusone and Media Matters’s lead fund-raiser, Mary Pat Bonner.

Mr. Reese offered to wipe away about half of the unpaid tally in exchange for payment of $2.25 million within about a week. If the group did not commit to the payment plan, Mr. Reese wrote, his firm would expect full payment of the original amount and would “go pens down and take steps to withdraw from the case by the end of the month.”

The ultimatum did not sit well inside Media Matters.

“You must be kidding!!” Ms. Bonner responded to Mr. Reese. “This is how you treat people who have been clients for 16 years and are friends?”

In a statement to The New York Times, Mr. Reese defended his firm’s work, noting that it helped with matters including the effort to shut down the state attorneys general investigations. “These victories,” he predicted, would help Media Matters and other organizations “stand up to politically motivated investigations and lawsuits brought by the right wing.”

While Elias Law Group continued representing Media Matters on some matters, the advocacy group shifted much of its defense to other law firms, including Susman Godfrey.

The new legal team in April worked to reach a settlement with X’s lawyers. X demanded that Media Matters retract its report about antisemitic content, pay X all the money left in the group’s bank account and shut down. Media Matters proposed explaining its methodology in its report, adding a statement from X and donating to a mutually agreed charity.

No deal materialized. Media Matters soon had even more worries.

In May, the F.T.C. launched an investigation into whether Media Matters and roughly a dozen other watchdog and advertising groups illegally colluded to dissuade companies from buying ads on X and other platforms. The commission’s investigation echoed Mr. Musk’s claims and sought similar internal information about Media Matters, including communications with other watchdog groups that monitor social media and news outlets.

The F.T.C. declined to comment.

Andrew Ferguson, commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission, opened an investigation into whether Media Matters colluded with roughly a dozen other watchdog and advertising groups illegally to dissuade companies from buying ads on X and other platforms.Credit...Tom Brenner for The New York Times

Inside Media Matters, the F.T.C. investigation was seen as an example of the Trump administration doing the bidding of Mr. Musk. Andrew Ferguson, the F.T.C.’s chairman, suggested before he was chosen to lead the agency that advertiser boycotts might violate antitrust laws. He praised Mr. Musk’s purchase of Twitter as helping to preserve “the free exchange of ideas that’s so indispensable to the American way of life.”

While Mr. Trump and Mr. Musk have feuded of late, the Trump administration has continued its investigation, underscoring an alignment based on shared enemies that may outlast the personal alliance between the two men.

In June, Media Matters sued to halt the investigation, arguing that the F.T.C. was using “sweeping governmental powers to attempt to silence and harass an organization for daring to speak the truth.”

In the lawsuit, Media Matters’ lawyers wrote that the F.T.C. investigation “caused many Media Matters reporters, writers and researchers to pare back their investigative journalism, especially on any topics that could be perceived as relating to the F.T.C. or its investigation.”

The legal situation also impaired the group’s ability to recruit and retain employees, according to the lawsuit.

Remaining staff members have expressed concern for their safety amid a torrent of threatening messages, requiring the group to hire an outside security firm, according to an internal memo laying out what it called the “chill and harms” of the legal attacks.

The memo, prepared for the group’s lawyers and reviewed by The Times, indicated that allies of the group have “pulled back communications with us or ceased proactively engaging with us,” while some donors and funders delayed or withheld gifts because they feared retaliation.

Mr. Mandel, in a meeting in Connecticut this spring, suggested to people raising money for Media Matters that the group should consider shutting down — a possibility that the memo also had broached.

But Mr. Carusone in his statement suggested that was not being considered, casting the legal assaults as “a revenge campaign against Media Matters intended to stymie or stop us entirely from exercising our constitutional rights.”

It's especially rich seeing the Left whine about lawfare when they invented this shit. Your rules motherfucker.
 
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