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Useful_Mistake said:
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Congress is not allowed to defund Planned Parenthood
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Here's a PDF of the order

I'll have to read it and report back, because this actually shocks me. There is direct SCOTUS precedent, under the casey-roe jurisprudence (Harris v. McRae), saying congress has no requirement to fund abortions, and the Tax and Spend power is easily the broadest power Congress has.
 

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BallsMcLongDong said:
Love/Hate relationship with the electrics. All torque, MIL has a couple along with chainsaws and shit. They're really cool for the hour that the battery lasts. I left my gas one there for her one summer and a methhead she hired for nigger work gutted it and I haven't got around to putting it back together.

When you got a giant ass wild property to do, those things work awesome for an hour till the battery dies and you have to wait for em to charge. Eventually I just get mad and break out the scythe. Hard to beat a gas chainsaw, though. Those electrics go through like 6 hard trees and then you gotta wait hours for em to charge.
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I have an 80 volt Greenworks that will run long enough to do my yard, so I get having a gas one, I just don't NEED it. With the electrics you can always have spare batteries, but that is going to be a huge initial expense to have enough of them to run one all day vs gas, which will cost more over time (unless you destroy one of those batteries, oof).

Due to how many batteries you would need to buy to run one all day, a Sthl or Ecco gas trimmer will run circles around it if you need more than an hour, as was stated. You just have to maintain them, so you don't get... that vid, lmao.

If I ran any sort of landscaping business I would only run electric stuff if I legally had to, or if I just need something super light to go up a ladder on a tree as a replacement for a small hacksaw or something that you can put on a belt.
 
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You know everyday I am grateful i a not European because whatever problem that America has when it comes to immigration is dwarfed by Europe, and at least America is trying to fix this problem now after decades of being fucked, Europe on the other hand seems to like getting fucked kinda sad, and I know why. It’s because some 80 years ago funny mustache people decided to some bad things and now the entirety of Europe has to accept getting raped by Muslims. Europe to this day is still buck broken over that, one of the few exception to this rule is Poland.
 
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Jace on ice said:
The bacon cheeseburger is the ultimate food of the Aryan race.

Kikes can't eat it because bacon.

Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad's can't eat it cause not halal.

The cheese fucks with niggers cause they're all lactose intolerant.
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I read a leftist retard conspiracy theory on quora that they portrayed as fact that tapas was invented in Spain as a way of sniffing out Jews. Unbelievably based if true, but it's not.

ETA: lol it even mentions it on the wiki with a "more citation needed" tag. Tapas predate the inquisition, nigger.
 
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MirrorNoir said:
Barring Newsom dying suddenly or doing something explicitly beyond the pale that Democrats can't bury or no sell the consequences of, the DNC will definitely ramrod him into the nomination... will of the people damned.
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So just like Kamala and Clinton?
 
Farmer McColl said:
"You can't follow the Constitution and use the purse strings because abortions." ~Obama-appointed Indian
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After reading the opinion, the Court's logic is that the provision at issue provides an unconstitutionally denies a benefit on the basis of the the Planned Parenthood federation member's freedom of speech and association.
I find the Courts logic to be very poor to say the least. It says a great deal that the Court has to spend pretty much all it's analysis of that issue on distinguishing cases, but cannot cite any single case with similar facts in support of it's conclusion.

The bill of attainder logic is even poorer. It reads as if the Court came to the conclusion this was a bill of attainder and then worked backwards, rather than properly applying the law.

Finally, the Court is simply wrong in how it applies rational basis review. That standard of review is HIGHLY deferential to the government, and will be met even if there is a hypothetically government legitimate interest in the law. It's a bar so low its insane. The Court refused to even consider the hypothetical interest under the tax and spend power here (e.g. that by refusing to provide money to the plaintiffs, those funds can be directed towards other institutions that serve the general welfare).

And this is before I get into the legal philosophical issues like looking
>looking at legislative history
In short, this is a bad opinion that I fully expect to get overturned, at least in part. The real question is if it will be at appellate or SCOTUS level
 
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Rimanah said:
Here's a PDF of the order

I'll have to read it and report back, because this actually shocks me. There is direct SCOTUS precedent, under the casey-roe jurisprudence (Harris v. McRae), saying congress has no requirement to fund abortions, and the Tax and Spend power is easily the broadest power Congress has.
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So is the court saying Trump's allowed to fund programs even if congress doesnt allocate funding for them?
 
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In short, this is a bad opinion that I fully expect to get overturned, at least in part. The real question is if it will be at appellate or SCOTUS level
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It's not an opinion, it's just an injunction while the case continues to get litigated. As mentioned above there's already an appeal filed in the First Circuit, and it's pretty much guaranteed there'll be a request for SCOTUS to lift the injunction, which will probably be granted 6-3 with the Mean Girls dissenting.
 
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autistic dog said:
So is the court saying Trump's allowed to fund programs even if congress doesnt allocate funding for them?
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The court is saying that Section 71113 of the law is unconstitutional as applied to these plaintiffs, and so enjoining the DHS from enforcing it.
The law still allocates funds, it just prevents certain peoples and organizations, including the plaintiffs, from receiving them. At least to my understanding.

If congress had wholesale removed funding for the program, I doubt even this court would have enjoined it. I'm not aware, off the top of my head, of any case that says congress HAS to fund something, and while I'm sure there are some out there, I'd imagine them to be few and far between.

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It's not an opinion, it's just an injunction while the case continues to get litigated. As mentioned above there's already an appeal filed in the First Circuit, and it's pretty much guaranteed there'll be a request for SCOTUS to lift the injunction, which will probably be granted 6-3 with the Mean Girls dissenting.
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My bad on opinion vs injunction, I have a bad habit of referring to pretty much anything as an opinion.

As for SCOTUS, absolutely agree on that. I could see Kagan concurring in part and dissenting in part. If I had to bet, the First Amendment claim is the most likely to not get reversed (even then I find it unlikely), and thus what she'd probably dissent on no matter what. But I also know pretty much jackshit about Attainders so I really can't analyze that portion outside of a general sniff test.
 
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Vance stating the obvious about the "muh Epstein" journalists, Fagzilla having an autistic fit about how this is akshually different:
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Biden, bush and Obama also didn't have an AG who said they had the Epstein list on their desk then suddenly do a 180 and have their FBI heads go on a publicity tour to claim their was no list after all or propitiators other than Epstein and release the worlds most worthless video to prove he totally killed himself.

it's undeniable that trump and his team have massively fucked up with all of this shit. the only reason he's trying to release more info now is because his base won't let it go and stop talking about it. Trump is suppose to be different than a bush/biden/obama swamp monster, that's why seeing his team initially do all they can to kill the Epstein case in such a sloppy manner felt like such a betrayal to many of his supporters.
 
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