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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 

He knows, I think the White House called Number 10 after and scalded him. It is laughable that the UK, France, and Canada believe they can bully Trump into recognising Palestine, which is insane level shit that only WEF ponies can concoct because they are always that deluded.

They are panicking now because their USAID revenue stream is dust and all 3 countries will have to go with the begging bowl to the IMF. Strangely, it is the 3 countries that the IMF has flagged for risk, and all 3 have been destroyed by the WEF's multiculturalism ideals.

This and the legal cases with Apple and WhatsApp, too. WhatsApp essentially told Yvette to fuck off, like Apple did, and appear to be merging their case. The issue for Yvette is, Apple is a very, very liquid-rich company, unlike Microsoft, and the UK legal system is not. If they lose, they will. The UK could pay billions in damages. They should settle, repeal the bill, and accept the hit, but they won't. There is a strange coordinated effort in online censorship in Europe and migrant rich countries. My personal opinion is that this is the WEF's final gambit before imploding because all the organisations linked to them were heavily funded by USAID. We are now seeing the true damage. These are not the moves of people who HAVE power, but ones that are CLINGING to power.
 

He knows, I think the White House called Number 10 after and scalded him. It is laughable that the UK, France, and Canada believe they can bully Trump into recognising Palestine, which is insane level shit that only WEF ponies can concoct because they are always that deluded.

They are panicking now because their USAID revenue stream is dust and all 3 countries will have to go with the begging bowl to the IMF. Strangely, it is the 3 countries that the IMF has flagged for risk, and all 3 have been destroyed by the WEF's multiculturalism ideals.

This and the legal cases with Apple and WhatsApp, too. WhatsApp essentially told Yvette to fuck off, like Apple did, and appear to be merging their case. The issue for Yvette is, Apple is a very, very liquid-rich company, unlike Microsoft, and the UK legal system is not. If they lose, they will. The UK could pay billions in damages. They should settle, repeal the bill, and accept the hit, but they won't. There is a strange coordinated effort in online censorship in Europe and migrant rich countries. My personal opinion is that this is the WEF's final gambit before imploding because all the organisations linked to them were heavily funded by USAID. We are now seeing the true damage. These are not the moves of people who HAVE power, but ones that are CLINGING to power.
2030 predictions aren't gonna come true it seems

 

He knows, I think the White House called Number 10 after and scalded him. It is laughable that the UK, France, and Canada believe they can bully Trump into recognising Palestine, which is insane level shit that only WEF ponies can concoct because they are always that deluded.

They are panicking now because their USAID revenue stream is dust and all 3 countries will have to go with the begging bowl to the IMF. Strangely, it is the 3 countries that the IMF has flagged for risk, and all 3 have been destroyed by the WEF's multiculturalism ideals.

This and the legal cases with Apple and WhatsApp, too. WhatsApp essentially told Yvette to fuck off, like Apple did, and appear to be merging their case. The issue for Yvette is, Apple is a very, very liquid-rich company, unlike Microsoft, and the UK legal system is not. If they lose, they will. The UK could pay billions in damages. They should settle, repeal the bill, and accept the hit, but they won't. There is a strange coordinated effort in online censorship in Europe and migrant rich countries. My personal opinion is that this is the WEF's final gambit before imploding because all the organisations linked to them were heavily funded by USAID. We are now seeing the true damage. These are not the moves of people who HAVE power, but ones that are CLINGING to power.
The AntiWhite Governments of Europe needed the US to function. That’s no longer available.
 
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We are now seeing the true damage. These are not the moves of people who HAVE power, but ones that are CLINGING to power.
I disagree. What power rivals them? We're voting reform hoping they will change things but it's a long shot and it's not a true alternative. Their system can collapse but they've still done so much damage to everything that they're still going to hold power without the head of the snake. USAID dried up but London is still full of foreigners and there is no shortage of oil money for the invaders to rely on. There's no shortage of ways for terrorists to get into the country unvetted. We're so deep into this hole you don't need the head for the body to keep going. Foreigners here will help other foreigners and they will get funded by third world Muslims with infinite money from oil.

Even if the current uniparty loses power and European politics become more right wing. There's still the problem of democracy and a population out breeding you 10 to 1. Unless we get a radical right wing party who's willing to remove all the foreigners and ban birth control we're still going to be in a mess. I know how crazy it sounds and how the women will react but birth control is screwing our birth rates and as long as it's the de-facto thing for women we're not going to fix that problem.
 
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I disagree. What power rivals them? We're voting reform hoping they will change things but it's a long shot and it's not a true alternative. Their system can collapse but they've still done so much damage to everything that they're still going to hold power without the head of the snake. USAID dried up but London is still full of foreigners and there is no shortage of oil money for the invaders to rely on. There's no shortage of ways for terrorists to get into the country unvetted. We're so deep into this hole you don't need the head for the body to keep going. Foreigners here will help other foreigners and they will get funded by third world Muslims with infinite money from oil.

Even if the current uniparty loses power and European politics become more right wing. There's still the problem of democracy and a population out breeding you 10 to 1. Unless we get a radical right wing party who's willing to remove all the foreigners and ban birth control we're still going to be in a mess. I know how crazy it sounds and how the women will react but birth control is screwing out birth rates and as long as it's the de-facto thing for women we're not going to fix that problem.
Funny you say that, since it's being discussed more and more how the Middle East and Africa have fallen below replacement level and are only gonna go further down.


What I'm hoping for here is that this trend has some kind of knock-on effect on the ones infesting the UK.
 
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I know how crazy it sounds and how the women will react but birth control is screwing out birth rates and as long as it's the de-facto thing for women we're not going to fix that problem.
If you want the women onside, and the married men onside, you aren’t getting rid of birth control. And even the unmarried men - no birth control means the easy availability of sex will stop immediately. Even within marriage, women want to space children out. Having a baby a year isn’t a lot of fun after a few years, you get worn out. You really want a marriage with only reproductive sex?
It’s naive to think that without fixing anything else everyone will magically marry to get access to sex and breed. The birth rates are down because of a psychological and physical disease due to overcrowding and despair.
People breed like rabbits during times of expansion, and that often follows war when resources and space are freed up. If you got rid of thirty million people, and made the economy boom and people cheer the fuck up and feel hopeful, you’d get your baby boom.
We need mass scale repatriation, and a purge of the ruling structures like Whitehall, etc
 
If you want the women onside, and the married men onside, you aren’t getting rid of birth control. And even the unmarried men - no birth control means the easy availability of sex will stop immediately.
I don't care if "women are onside" or not. The problem has to be solved and birth control puts the plug in birth rates. It does harm in other ways but that's the main one. Women will go along with whoever is in charge either way. So their options are right wing white government or sharia law. Either way, that's the only futures this country has and neither of them are going to give women the freedom they have now. Birth rates will go up to prevent extinction or because Muslim men won't allow their women to use birth control.

The idea that we have to appease people is a sickness. We have to fix our problems and our birth rate is a problem. If it's not fixed we're all dead. So save the "poor women won't be able to fuck casually any more" speech and start with the "Sluts are vile creatures and we need to restore marriage and the family" speeches instead. Because the later has to happen or our way of life is extinct along with us.
 
Birth rates will go up to prevent extinction
This "line go up" thinking is why we're in this situation to begin with. The British Isles were already massively over-populated in the 70s and the population was beginning to shrink by the mid 80s as a natural response to that. It should have been allowed to continue. Population would have shrunk slowly, stabilised, and started to grow again towards the end of the 21st century. Instead, successive governments have pursued constant, perpetual population growth in order to ensure a constant, perpetual increase in GDP, which meant importing foreign labour. Literally none of these people would be here, if not for this belief that population must always increase.
 
We have to fix our problems and our birth rate is a problem. If it's not fixed we're all dead. So save the "poor women won't be able to fuck casually any more"
We do have to fix the birth rate. We dont do it that way, because not fixing anything else means nobody wants to breed. You’ve got to clean the tank first. You fix the birthrates by creating space to expand into - and a clean environment. Chuck out the invading hordes, and make people want to breed again.
Sluts are vile creatures and we need to restore marriage and the family"
Are those sluts fucking themselves? No men involved whatsoever? The babies come mainly from family oriented people who are already on board with wanting children, but who are constrained by space and economics.
we are not some kind of Saudi hell state (yet) where women are kept as breeding cattle. Even places like that are seeing fertility drops because the same sickness is everywhere - its density. Even rural areas, the availability of rhe web creates an artificial sene of being connected to millions. Nobody’s birthrate is going up without space to expand into and a bit of hope for the future.
Most couples I know wanted more children. The usual trap is thus;
- you have to go to college to get a decent job, and maybe graduate study
-now you’re mid twenties
-you’re responsible so you want to get married first.
-and you want a house or flat as well so you save up a while to get married and get a stable home, little starter flat or whatever. Now you’re very late twenties
-you get married and have a baby.
-you want another baby, but oh… you’ve gotta work, because house prices and so you need childcare and it’s 1500 quid a month out of post tax income so you run the numbers and you can have another baby but only when this one is our of nursery in reception or almost there. So you wait longer than you wanted and then have another baby. Now you’re 34.
-repeat. You’d really like three kids but you can’t ford two in nursery at once and maybe you can wait another couple of years but now you’re late thirties and that’s kind of tiring. A lot of couples just don’t have the children they want because the whole system is set up to make responsible people breed later, and less.
How do you fix that? Have countries who banned birth control had massive population booms? I don’t think they have. The places that pay people to breed aren’t either, there is something profoundly wrong with us as a species
If you want babies you have to create an environment where the responsible people CAN have 3 plus children and a mum at home and still pay the rent on a small home. Nobody wants to fix things to get is back there because that makes the line not go up.
 
@Kofi Drinka You're wrong on this. Successful societies are not R-Strategy animals. We're not rats. And much as you believe in superiority of the Whites there's no magic in the DNA that makes White people maintain successful societies when population exceeds the ability to manage it. Your posts sound like "In order to defeat the Bradford, one must sometimes become the Bradford". Britain as one giant Bradford is not what I wish to see.

The environment needs to change. People are smart enough to have kids when the opportunity to raise them properly is available. The way nations compete is not a giant tug of war. Britain at its height dominated India and swathes of Africa despite being outnumbered literally thousands to one. Because Britain had a successful society that could produce capable individuals and organise them to best effect and wildly over-populated countries that struggled with basic infrastructure, masses of uneducated people and resource management, could not.

If we all end up settling this by a giant tug of war and a hundred miles of rope, then I'll concede you were right and it was an issue of not having enough people. But until that happens, raw numbers are just not how societies compete. Even if it ends up in war, it comes down to organisation, logistics, morale and technology more than numbers.

People just aren't willing to have kids because they're depressed, over-worked, cramped up and feel they can't afford to raise them properly. Don't change any of that and just add more kids - wont produce the glorious racial army you dream of, trust me.
 
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