Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I would chip in to adapt one of your greentexts.

I wish I paid more attention in animation class.

If you guys did it, I'd like to see a show that had "Everyday Joe Starfleet", the one commissioned guy that stands for the Federation and Federation Values.

Like "Lower Decks", but you know, more poignant and reflective (and far, far less SCREAMING!) of enlisted or young commissioned life, their families, and reflections on life in a post-Dominion War federation.

We could go stupidly topical, and talk about how Reman Refugees from the Shinzon Incident are destroying Federation culture, but frankly, I'd rather avoid that and just be optimistic about things.

My Starfleet Marines greentext stuff is popular here and would work. I also have a more "serious" Star Trek fanfiction thing that I work on every now and again (among countless other story ideas and world builds I putter away with). There was one "episode" premise I wrote where the crew of the ship goes on R&R after a deployment. The commander goes home to visit his dysfunctional family and, in the midst of his uncomfortable vacation, he asks "I wonder what X officer is doing," and it cuts to the other officers having fun. The B-plot is some of his officers doing ridiculous shit on DS9, since the first deployment is in the Bajoran/Cardassian sector and DS9 is where they end up.

I also have a Bajoran doctor who is a Federation citizen and a refugee from the occupation. She hates Bajorans and is straight up reviled by her people for being a collaborator. That is a whole story by itself where the commander has to convince Kira to help get her un-exiled so she can do basic shit in the Bajoran sector while on deployment.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

I also have a Bajoran doctor who is a Federation citizen and a refugee from the occupation. She hates Bajorans and is straight up reviled by her people for being a collaborator. That is a whole story by itself where the commander has to convince Kira to help get her un-exiled so she can do basic shit in the Bajoran sector while on deployment.

I've got one about a Cardassian Glinn that hates Dukat with a burning passion and is selling strategic intel to the Bajoran resistance. In the end, that poor lad is tortured to death by Garak, and that puts him on his path towards exile.

 

[Screamer_2]

Now I want to note as a point of personal pride that I did not search this niggerfaggot's name before I made my OG prediction he would be a gay jigaboo klingon. My gaydar was activated by his effeminate eunuch bearing in the photos/trailer and my schizophrenic mental calculations as to the homogay ratio of currentyear products, not to mention my careful following of the Nasneed prognostications, and finding out I was 1000% on the money is rather satisfying

I would like to point out I made this comment based on nothing but an image of the character.

Klingons are meant to be a warrior race of bad asses. So they cast a guy whose shoulders are no wider than his hips. I can just tell this character will be an insufferable faggot who will never pull off being masculine or intimidating.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I've got one about a Cardassian Glinn that hates Dukat with a burning passion and is selling strategic intel to the Bajoran resistance. In the end, that poor lad is tortured to death by Garak, and that puts him on his path towards exile.

In mine, the Bajoran doctor is part of the old medical caste and her family is forced to help the Cardassians to keep their clinic up during the occupation. Meanwhile, they try to help as many Bajorans as well as the resistance. When Bajoran cells turn radical and begin killing Bajorans who cooperate with Cardassians at all, they attack her family's clinic and that's her breaking point. She trades information on the resistance to the Cardassians in exchange for getting her maimed father and herself to the Federation, where she settles down. Dukat honors the agreement. She becomes a doctor, enters Starfleet, and is basically a Bajoran time capsule of the old ways. It isn't until she is assigned to a ship that heads to the Bajoran sector that it's ever a problem. She accepts what happened and doesn't care what the Bajorans think of her, while the commander wants to clear her name. Also, she is a complete cunt.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

What if a bunch of retards on a gossip forum banded together to make an unlicensed, unsolicited fan project?

We have to get an exasperated Jersh cameo as some kind of alien weirdo for the season finale, I think he’d go for it out of sheer relief we’re not asking him to engage with anime.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

We have to get an exasperated Jersh cameo as some kind of alien weirdo for the season finale, I think he’d go for it out of sheer relief we’re not asking him to engage with anime.

He'd be a Tellarite information broker that literally everyone hates, but he's one of the best in the quadrant. There would be cameos of the ship's intelligence officer trying to get information from him while Jersh rambles about Ferengi latinum payment processors and how much he hates Grand Nagus Rom for adopting Federation financial policies.

"No one cares about William Riker's disgusting orgies on Risa and how much latinum he spends there, but I eat a few dogs and now I'm blacklisted. So much for cultural diversity."

(Tellarites consider dogs a delicacy in Trek lore, this is not accusing Null of anything.)

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

In mine, the Bajoran doctor is part of the old medical caste and her family is forced to help the Cardassians to keep their clinic up during the occupation. Meanwhile, they try to help as many Bajorans as well as the resistance. When Bajoran cells turn radical and begin killing Bajorans who cooperate with Cardassians at all, they attack her family's clinic and that's her breaking point. She trades information on the resistance to the Cardassians in exchange for getting her maimed father and herself to the Federation, where she settles down. Dukat honors the agreement. She becomes a doctor, enters Starfleet, and is basically a Bajoran time capsule of the old ways. It isn't until she is assigned to a ship that heads to the Bajoran sector that it's ever a problem. She accepts what happened and doesn't care what the Bajorans think of her, while the commander wants to clear her name. Also, she is a complete cunt.

Damn, yeah, we never got to see that Bajorans can be ungrateful little bastards, nor did we got a fair shot at Cardassians doing the noble deed until Damar double crossed the Dominion.

Other than that, I have some ideas about Curzon Dax becoming delusioned with how the Federation becomes a complacent, arrogant mess and turns to alcohol, space cocaine and endless orgies on Risa, which is how he eventually got himself killed.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Damn, yeah, we never got to see that Bajorans can be ungrateful little bastards, nor did we got a fair shot at Cardassians doing the noble deed until Damar double crossed the Dominion.

The point of the Bajoran doctor is that the occupation was fucking brutal. I think there is an interesting story thread for Bajorans who did whatever it took to survive, but not on the side of the resistance.

Other than that, I have some ideas about Curzon Dax becoming delusioned with how the Federation becomes a complacent, arrogant mess and turns to alcohol, space cocaine and endless orgies on Risa, which is how he eventually got himself killed.

Isn't that... Isn't that how he died?

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Isn't that... Isn't that how he died?

Yes, the last bit is how he died. The how is clear, but the why isn't. Curzon was old as fuck when that happened, and given his life style any other thing could have keeled him over. But I see a man being frustrated, depressed and honestly disgusted at how things turned out for the Federation. Sometimes, what you do as a young man, can be your undoing in old age. In his case, negoiating Khitomer castrating the Federation as a consequence and becoming inept at the base task of defending itself 70 years later.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Yes, the last bit is how he died. The how is clear, but the why isn't. Curzon was old as fuck when that happened, and given his life style any other thing could have keeled him over. But I see a man being frustrated, depressed and honestly disgusted at how things turned out for the Federation. Sometimes, what you do as a young man, can be your undoing in old age. In his case, negoiating Khitomer castrating the Federation as a consequence and becoming inept at the base task of defending itself 70 years later.

To be honest, I see the Khitomer Accords as a positive development. It was the cornerstone of the Federation-Klingon alliance. Without something like that, they never would have worked together so well during the Dominion War. The Federation became complacent because it became a paradise, not the Khitomer Accords. Admiral Leyton was right about that.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

In fairness to Nu-Trek I don’t think we’ve had a real Republican analog in a while.

There was that Paxton guy in the last season of Enterprise, but that whole plotline had no spine. Then they swung again with that Confederation in Picard which was "what if 'Inferno' from Doctor Who was total ass?"

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I was actually referring to T'Kuvma and Lorca from Discovery's first season, sorry.

If you guys did it, I'd like to see a show that had "Everyday Joe Starfleet", the one commissioned guy that stands for the Federation and Federation Values.

Like "Lower Decks", but you know, more poignant and reflective (and far, far less SCREAMING!) of enlisted or young commissioned life, their families, and reflections on life in a post-Dominion War federation.

We could go stupidly topical, and talk about how Reman Refugees from the Shinzon Incident are destroying Federation culture, but frankly, I'd rather avoid that and just be optimistic about things.

What about a medical drama set on a Starbase from the perspective of a nurse?

Maybe a drama about a simple Ensign being overwhelmed by Starfleet's growing militarization?

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

To be honest, I see the Khitomer Accords as a positive development. It was the cornerstone of the Federation-Klingon alliance. Without something like that, they never would have worked together so well during the Dominion War. The Federation became complacent because it became a paradise, not the Khitomer Accords. Admiral Leyton was right about that.

Khitomer eliminated the need for a more militarised Starfleet and that over the years paved the way to what the Federation was in the mid 2360s. It's the peace dividend on steroids. I mean, with the Klingons being at formal peace and potentially even allied to the Federation, the Romulans hadn't a good reason to start shit (plus, they where psyopped with Tomed into thinking the Klingons would help the Feds at any cost). The rest of the bunch, like the Cardassians or Tholians can be dealt with what basically is Starfleet's militia, given the sometimes ludicrous discrepancy in tech. So, what does Curzon have to regret? The Federation losing its edge as an unintended consequence and stagnating.

 

[Lithos]

I kinda wanted something that was Leave it to Beaver in space, something that would show that the Federation is improving, especially in a post-war era. And especially post-Dominion War, because even though there's truce, there's likely a "Cold War" because Changeling spies could be anywhere.

If we take Pic S3, where you had that PLUS bio-Borging every under-25 in Starfleet, there'd probably be a paranoia going on that people need to get over. Hell, I'm sure enrollment in Starfleet might crash, and people take to merchant marines (yes, Federation had those, as shown in TOS) if they want the space adventure life without worry that all the weird shit that happened to Picard, Sisko, and even Janeway doesn't happen to them.

Whatever is done, I kinda want either every post-ENT stuff to be ignored, OR "corrected", like how nuTrek loves to "correct" lore.

Like, Jurati's Cuddle-Borg go back, have to lay low from the real Borg, end up getting virally nuked by the Brunali (Icheb's Species). NuTrek fans love to mock people who prefer canon continuity, but I bet they'd flip out on what little lore NuTrek actually came up with getting the same treatment.

But back on my main point, I wouldn't mind a kind of semi-traumatized Federation that looks inward, does some reflecting on its core values, realizes that yeah, everyone outside really does suck, but decides to curb the adventurism for a bit while the work on paying attention to their colonies so that another Turkana IV happens, or people become disgruntled and form a new Maquis.

And really, I'd love for there not to be any legacy mentions. Mayyyyybe a fun one-off cameo from a character in a previous series, but otherwise, no "wall of memberberries".

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

You know I actually really liked the NX refit. Decent aesthetics for what boils down to a barely-seen middle ground between the 01 and the 1701.

 

[Captain Syrup]

otherwise, no "wall of memberberries".

I thought the point of the Kelvin timeline was so normal people could enjoy it without a PhD in Trek lore.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I thought the point of the Kelvin timeline

No the point of the Kelvin timeline was to increase Lasik surgery referrals

 

[Judge Holden]

I would like to point out I made this comment based on nothing but an image of the character.

Ya know it is genuinely worrying that we are all developing such accurate gaydars we can glimpse a single photo of some nigger in klingon makeup and know he takes it in the ass

Khitomer eliminated the need for a more militarised Starfleet and that over the years paved the way to what the Federation was in the mid 2360s. It's the peace dividend on steroids. I mean, with the Klingons being at formal peace and potentially even allied to the Federation, the Romulans hadn't a good reason to start shit (plus, they where psyopped with Tomed into thinking the Klingons would help the Feds at any cost). The rest of the bunch, like the Cardassians or Tholians can be dealt with what basically is Starfleet's militia, given the sometimes ludicrous discrepancy in tech. So, what does Curzon have to regret? The Federation losing its edge as an unintended consequence and stagnating.

Given how much I myself have sperged out about the early TNG era smug pacifist peacenik Federation and how it unironically works setting shit up going forwards despite how fucking insufferable it was in practice and how many others seem to have the same view on things, it would have been neat if we got a series set in the years running up to the timeframe of Season 1 of TNG, similar to how SNW takes place in the runup to TOS.

On the one hand you would have humanity and the Federation feeling like they "finally made it" and thus can rest on their laurels forever despite increasingly obvious threats lurking beyond their borders and festering from within, on the other hand you would have the Klingons feeling like they have to overcompensate with the bellicose warrior shit because their closest ally has seemingly entirely shed its muscle out of blithe naivete meaning the Klingons have to assume they will be fighting for both of them should serious shit go down and sending their own covert expeditions into Romulan Space/Cardassian Territory/the general direction of the Delta Quadrant so they are not caught unawares, and mixed in with this you have some of the new races being contacted by the Federation feeling increasingly put off by the aggressive smarmy smugness it exudes in diplomacy while those like the Cardassians and Tholians gleefully exploit their meekness to carry out all manner of evil shit with barely a disapproving look from the Federation despite it fully having the ability and justification to stop them.

Effectively it would be looking at early TNG through the lens of mid TNG/DS9 and retroactively building up to exactly why Q felt it necessary to repeatedly kick Picard in his bald balls to try and snap him out of this mindset and wise up to the kind of universe he was living in....but as I so often do, I forget we live in literal fucking hell which means this hypothetical would instead be done through the lens of either late woke kurtzman or post-woke kurtzman (which I still posit may well be so much fucking worse) and so any scrap of potential would be drowned in shitpiss by the end of season 1.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

it would have been neat if we got a series set in the years running up to the timeframe of Season 1 of TNG, similar to how SNW takes place in the runup to TOS.

>an entire show where the uniforms look like this

 

[Judge Holden]

>an entire show where the uniforms look like this

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Aren't you forgetting something?


I'm talking the cheap pajama uniforms and mandress era.

You vill wear ze skant.
You vill let ze dolphin crew members rape you
You vill look ze other vay ven picard stabs meester jack crusher with ze ice pick.
And you vill be happy

Jokes aside yeah, I want the absolute late 80s new-age assault on the senses that was Season 1 TNG to be brought back in full force. That shit is like 1st Edition Warhammer 40k in terms of satisfying visual cheese.....and god do I wanna see these figurative, conceptual, and oh so very literal niggers make a comeback

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

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Oh shit it's the Yakubians