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iceteayo said:
If you played Aggressive Recon in BF4 all you had were shotguns or Carbines or DMRs. Good alternatives but cant compete with an AR. Assault in BF6 if you build if him could have 3 weapons (AR + SHOTGUN + PISTOL), a self heal med pen, and your last gadget slot can now be a spawn beacon to basically just fuck up the backline even more now, also the perks you get like letting your team spawn faster on you could basically make the tryhard flank gameplay really annoying to fight.
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I never really got into Recon, Medic/Assault has always been my go-to for games like this, though I play them the way they were probably intended, healing teammates. Reviving people, helping facilitate infantry pushes, etc. Maybe that's why I don't mind the respawn becon change. in any game i've played with them, most of the random Recon players i ended up with tended to use them for sniper power positions, which is fine, but i'd rather have them on the OBJ or at least near it
 
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iceteayo said:
a self heal med pen
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As far as I know, this is no longer the case. It seems like the pen now allows for some resistance to crowd control and increased movement rather than any healing:

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The Adrenaline Injector, initially offering a self-healing effect, now clears and boosts resistance to flash and stun effects, enhances tolerance to explosive and incendiary damage, and improves movement speed. We feel that this will reduce their self-sustaining perks and differentiate them further from the support class.
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I'm naturally cynical, though. As good as the whole thing looks, I feel like we should always be ready for a catch. I really hope there will be no Fortniteification involved.

I'm also pretty sure they said they weren't giving Assault double primaries either in a previous update, yet that's what we saw in the multiplayer reveal.
 
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Miller said:
Oh, it's the Stim Shot from CoD...
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I mean, I doubt CoD was the first to do it...

They had the self-healing version in 2042, which I honestly enjoyed. If they want to try and confine people to team-supporting roles though, I'm all for it. Teamwork was rather disparate in 2042, mostly happening out of convenience. There were countless times where medics fucking ran around lone-wolfing without reviving anyone. If these changes can curb that and make it more team-centric, it has my vote.
 
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So I caved and also bought BF3 for nostalgia reasons (BF3 turns 15 next year, man im old.) , there are live servers but what that one guy said about 20-30 people being in queue is correct and it's fucking ridiculous.

anyone else want to tell me if hardline or BFV are worth it?

Pre-loading the open beta just started today.
 
NeonFlux said:
anyone else want to tell me if hardline or BFV are worth it?
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BFV has been pretty solid for a while. Pretty much by the time the game's update cycle was over it was a proper battlefield game. Hardline was fun, but I doubt you'll really find games for it. Here are the player numbers for each active battle field from least populated over 24 hours to most, this is with the bump in popularity that BF6's beta has given the games as well as the sale. I'd recommend V or 1 if anything
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I'll buy BFV then and maybe hardline since it's also 4$, thanks

Most BF3 servers are German BTW, the two US servers are full

Edit: I just had a level 55 player on a BF1 offical EA quick match server say "niggers" and "EA is a company cock full of faggots" so I guess they learned their lesson on banning people. The texts containing the word "nigger" were removed from the chat 1 minute later but he's still playing. I will keep people posted as I play more BF games.
 
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I can't judge too hard since I am more of a COD guy than a Battlefield guy, but hearing people say "Well, I might as well buy BF1 or BFV!" is like saying that you will buy Vanguard or MW6(also known as III or 2023) because you feel nostalgic for when the franchise was "good". I dunno, at this point I would just give 2 a shot at best since that's when the franchise was actually good and it has mods. Maybe 3 was also good, I can't say I am familiar with the game as much but I have recently been looking footage of it over and it doesn't impress me. Feels more like nostalgia to me, "you had to be there to understand" kind of thing, and well, I just wasn't there. I do own it on the 360 tho(being given away for free years ago) so I might give it a shot. I think this is the peak of the franchise, there might have been good games before that point, but this was also the last time Battlefield was a serious competitor to COD.

BF1 and BFV tho? Yeah, that's just stockholm syndrome talking, I don't care that these are the most active entries. Halo 5 and Halo Infinite are also more active than fan-run servers for Halo 2 or 3 but I doubt any Halo fan will tell you they're superior or even worth the money. If I had a gun held to my head, I would unironically play 2042 over these two since at least there was some experimentation done with 2042 that you don't see in BF1 or BFV, BF1 specifically I think is vastly overrated and only has the reputation it does because so many people were tired of COD when it came out(kind of like with BF6, history repeats I guess).
 
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Professor Donger said:
Because BF1 and BFV are good and are on sale? The games were fine at the end of their life span, and most people who played V specificially thought it could have thrived if given an extra year of content like 2042 was.
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I will have to take your word for it, cause they look extremely overrated, mid at best. BF1 especially is just a modern day BF game with a very poorly applied WW1 paintjob and yet plays nothing like a WW1 game. Why even bother at this point? COD does a better job pretending they make historical games and they have fucking Snoop Dogg in Vanguard. It would be one thing if BF1 played like a proper WW1 military shooter, but for that I can just play Isonzo.
Considering how the devs treated their fans, tho? Yeah, giving them money now because "the game is good after a bajillion updates" is just pure stockholm syndrome
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But hey, it's your money I guess

Blackstar said:
2042 is a piece of shit that is way less fun than 1 or V
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People said the same thing about Black Ops 4, and yet I have over a thousand hours in that game and it is arguably the last fun COD ever made. Opinions on MW2019 are mixed but what can't be argued is how fast the franchise fell off the cliff shortly after it's "comeback", and that started even before the next game came out. BO4 tried something different, just like 2042, and despite many people not liking it, I found it fantastic and maybe 2042 could potentially be my jam. I say "potentially" since I am never giving EA or DICE a single cent, but at least there is a chance I could enjoy it, vs the world's most inaccurate WW1 game in name only or the world's most generic WW2 shooter that hates it's fanbase. Did I mention Battlefield 1942 exists if I ever want to play a WW2 Battlefield game for any reason? There was 1943 too but I think that one is lost media by now for years(even before it was removed from the storefronts the servers shut down, if I recall correctly).
 
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30+GameOvers said:
"the game is good after a bajillion updates" is just pure stockholm syndrome
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lmao it's like 3 dollars get over it. I will agree with you that DICE treats their fans like shit, but I will also point out that COD's devs have been doing the same thing for a while, like i'm suprised at how quickly you just forgot that Vanguard existed.
 
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Professor Donger said:
lmao it's like 3 dollars get over it. I will agree with you that DICE treats their fans like shit, but I will also point out that COD's devs have been doing the same thing for a while, like i'm suprised at how quickly you just forgot that Vanguard existed.
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If I was told to pay 3 dollars to get shit in my mouth, I still wouldn't do it, but I can't stop anyone else. It just boggles the mind people go for that piece of shit when, once again, 1942 exists and the game doesn't hate it's fanbase every step of the way.
Also, Vanguard was made by Sledgehammer games and they are the worst COD studio. Only the dumbest motherfuckers actually like them, as they are not only the most woke studio of the bunch(I got a whole folder of their virtue signaling from twitter) but they also make the worst games, not sure if they're worse than DICE but they are both definitely in the same category, especially BF5 era DICE. At least we know who is more incompetent, as Sledgehammer recently lost their right as a mainline studio and went back to being a support studio, not allowed to make anymore new games.
 
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