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Nah, Riker was just assuming dominance to make her submissive enough for blowjobs under the table. Don't deny it, I'm right.
Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier
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Major Kira's character development:
Oh I killed some people in a terrorist bombing once.
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Yes I killed some Cardis and collaborators a couple times, and I'd do it again.
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We should kill those people, because that's what we did back in the Resistance.
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All collaborators must die!!
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i love everyone but the founders and we have to kill them all except my lover who also collaborated and cost many innocent lives both in the past and in season 6
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Is this accurate? Or am I misremembering my poor gal?
Oh I killed some people in a terrorist bombing once.
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Yes I killed some Cardis and collaborators a couple times, and I'd do it again.
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We should kill those people, because that's what we did back in the Resistance.
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All collaborators must die!!
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i love everyone but the founders and we have to kill them all except my lover who also collaborated and cost many innocent lives both in the past and in season 6
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Is this accurate? Or am I misremembering my poor gal?
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For like three seasons they decided, “What if we made Kira the new Bones?” so she’s just a full-time technophobe who screams at holodecks like they’re gentrifying her block.
And my other vivid memory from that phase is her flying this busted-ass old Bajoran resistance fighter that looked like Red Green welded it together out of a propane grill, while her copilot Dax is in the seat next to her practically shitting herself.
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Didn't Kira become softer on collaborators once she traveled back in time and found out her mother was railing Dukat
zRayden940
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God I havent logged into STO in a long while, I was one of the pre-beta testers back before it launched and I paid the $300 for life time when it launched. I Wonder how much Zen I have.
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But seriously, the games economy is completely fucking busted now. Basically the only way to get anything in less than 6 months of grinding is to just pay for it.
Even shitty ships on the exchange go for billions of credits.
Quintex96
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Oh pish posh. If there's one thing made VERY clear in Trek, it's that Gowron is more concerned with theatrics than technicalities.
Oh geez, they're going to ruin the Ferengi!
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What are the character builds like, though? I would love to play a Cardie and zip around, but I'm iffy on MMOs and the standard playstyles.
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oh no no no NO NO FUCK PLEASE BE BULLSHIT
The concept is that Archer became the president of the new Federation of Planets and these are the voyages of his political career. If this launches in $CURRENT_YEAR the premise will spin him as some evil Trumpist white male tyrant, or him battling to save Our Democracy from a faction of Terra First human supremacists who want to make the galaxy great again.
I just finished a rewatch of the Xindi arc yesterday and it's every bit as good as it was 20 years back. I'm praying this shit dies in the crib.
I just finished a rewatch of the Xindi arc yesterday and it's every bit as good as it was 20 years back. I'm praying this shit dies in the crib.
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You have a lot of freedom with what you can do, but keep in mind the base framework is well over a decade old so there's some jank.
There's hundreds of guides on what race and what class in what faction is meta yadda yadda yadda, not to mention the pure autism that is ship builds, but just jumping in completely blind is still perfectly workable. The game is very loose with difficulty until you hit level cap, after which point you're going to have to focus on an actual build lest you get raped by random NPC ships.
At this point I'm long past chasing DPS or any of that gay shit, I just play to make cool ships/uniforms and mess around.
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SNW explains this away by ascribing it to the Temporal War.
I rationalized it in the 90s because they said outright Khan took over India and maybe China too. Pointless shithole countries that fell apart squabbling with each other and only Khan could be their tard wrangler. In Enterprise they say shithole countries in Africa too.
Be honest, you don't give a fuck about whatever warlords are in power in sub Saharan Africa right now. If you lived in LA it wouldn't affect your life one bit, and the Voyager was in LA because there was an evil time travelling villain there and totally not to save on production costs like how pretty much every outside shot on a planet in the series is totally not in Southern California.
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Sounds like somebody doesn't have any faith of the heart...
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Indeed, during the honestly kinda uncomfortable Comfort Women episode where they were all perfectly willing and well pampered hos who could quit at any time and not...well...yeah.
The writers of DS9 were rather infamously inept in trying to sell the evils of the occupation as being akin to the Nazis/Imperial Japanese and being kinda successful with the general vibe, but utterly fucking up with the numbers and the actual details when one takes a moment to think about it, with 50 years of occupation/slavery/genocide netting a paltry 15 million excess deaths out of like 4 billion bajorans, and examples like the Comfort Women episode where they dipped their toes into talking about the really nasty non-genocide shit but either chickened out of making them "too evil" or fucked up with the execution
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I guess the Cardies eventually switching sides would be a little hard to sell if they were as brutal and evil as the lore needed them to be.
Honestly it's sort of the opposite problem with Dukat himself, throughout the series we get more and more glimpses into his past and psyche, softening him into a "oh you cad" antagonist that butted heads with the heroes but wasn't completely irredeemable. I could've seen Dukat eventually having a change of heart up until the last season.
Then they said fuck it and turned him into an insane megalomaniac possessed by wormhole demons and he died as the space anti-christ.
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What also further muddies the waters is the fact they had the Klingons go to war with the Federation and gleefully commit war crimes including slaughtering Federation civilians during DS9 including them repeatedly massacring entire hospitals which is a specific plot point for one episode, only to eventually switch sides with nobody even mentioning that shit afterwards.
I have sperged before about how the whole "we are allied with an overtly despotic and malicious space empire built on insane militarism and subjugating other races" thing is almost hilarious incongruous with the vibe of the setting when you think about it, and also how it is in part a lingering relic of TNG season 1's smug post-hippy sensibilities where eternal détente and fwendship with the USSR in all its scumfuck totalitarian ultra-militaristic glory was the fashionable opinion to have among liberal/leftist types of the time, but in practice with DS9 it seriously undermines any attempt to throw moral judgement at the Cardassians
Yeah the writing on him was downright schizophrenic, with only Alamo's performance keeping shit consistent and engaging till the last season when the writing team went nigh currentyear in shrieking DUKAT BAD DUKAT BAD DUKAT BAD at the audience after years of sitting on several fences regarding his character, leading to the conclusion of his character arc being given to Damar instead
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Kira's views on collaborators softened significantly throughout the series. "Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night" was the culmination of it, but a major part of her character development was letting go of the occupation and moving on. That episode also helped set Kira up for helping the Cardassian resistance. She ultimately convinced Damar of what she had to learn herself: the old Cardassia (Bajor) was gone and it was never coming back. The only way to move is forward. In a way, Kira essentially mentored a collaborator, and trained him, to become a successful revolutionary and lead a successful revolution. She did for the Cardassians what no one was there to do for Bajor.
Kira was such a fantastic, compelling, and moving character.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dukat losing his mind after Ziyal's death and going into Federation custody was the best way to end his story. It wasn't like the episode redeemed him in any way. I would have accepted Dukat and the Birth of the Super Cult if it culminated in Kai Winn fully betraying him and turning into the main antagonist in the last season. Winn's character represented moral cowardice leading someone to commit ultimate evil, which is very compelling, while Dukat was always a rotten bastard. There wasn't anywhere else for Dukat to go, thematically speaking. However, Ira Steven Behr had a weird hateboner for Dukat and the viewers who saw Dukat as anything but comically evil. It's really unfortunate.