Dramacow Michael Christopher Martin & Heather Lynn Martin /DaddyOFive/MommyOFive/FamilyOFive / MikeMartin1982 - now DaddyOOne, serving 5 years probation for child neglect, doesn't know when to quit

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Almost every abuser follows the "abuse, then indulge" pattern. The idea that they weren't being abused because sometimes they're allowed to do crazy shit is abuser logic crystallized into its purest form.

If there's one thing this does, I hope some kids who were fans can realize that being scared of your parents all the time, being forced to scream and cry and cower, that's not normal. If you're a kid in an environment like that, you think it's normal and everyone's going through that. The reason their child fans are so reluctant to admit that this is abuse is that they live in dysfunctional, abusive households, and admitting that Cody is a victim would be admitting they are, too. Some people aren't willing to admit to abuse victim status even in adulthood -- imagine knowing you could be sent to live with strangers.

But even the knowledge that it's not right is important when you're a kid in a madhouse. Even if you know you can't get out yet, and even if you have to tolerate the intolerable, knowing that it's not forever (and that the world isn't all like your family) is critical to having enough of a sense of self to succeed when you finally get away.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I'm wondering who is going to take the place of Cody as the low man on the totem pole if this move sticks. Unless we're assuming he's just going to figure it's too much trouble and abandon the channel, someone has to take up the role.

If they don't abandon it, then either Ryan or Alex. Jake's still "too valuable" to prank and Mike and Heather would likely throw more of a shitfit if they get pranked.

But right now, I think there's a 50% chance the channel's not going to be up much longer.

 

[repentance]

The mum only found out in August 2016 re the videos and immediately set about alerting the authorities "Maryland (where the Martins live) at that time declared it Corporal Punishment to physically, mentally, and emotionally abuse your kids. "https://nickmonroestuff.wordpress.com/blog/

Obviously it's her word against his atm but to be honest after seeing his videos (apologies included), hearing of his latest behaviour / actions I would like to give the mum the benefit of the doubt unless it is proven differently. I won't be holding my breath him proving me wrong.

"Maryland (where the Martins live) at that time declared it Corporal Punishment to physically, mentally, and emotionally abuse your kids." is not a factual statement. It's an interpretation and a questionable one at that, and it's one which calls into question the credibility of the person making the statement. It's certainly a statement you can make online when trying to use emotion to sway someone to your viewpoint, but you'd be eaten alive if you made such a claim in court (which is where this will ultimately be determined).

The "mum side" would be far better off sticking to the facts and only the facts than making public claims which can easily be disproven in the courtroom.

 

[RobertPaulson]

I was curious about how much they were actually making. Sorry if this was already posted....


As of November 25th, 2016 (according to this video) they were making $738 per day, $22,576 per month, and $270,908 per year.



It now shows $0 monthly when you look them up on social blade ATM. This video is probably reflecting the highest possible earnings DO5 could have been making based on that site but it's still an obnoxious amount of money for him to be making off of child abuse.

 

[ApplePecanPieCheesecake]

"It was just a shank, bro!"

HAHAHAHA.

It's kind of a given in these situations that both parents have issues. Seriously, the mom allowed this shit to go on until it completely blew up. Maybe she didn't know, but she should have.

She wasn't aware he had that channel. She was only aware of a different channel. She is their mother but she isn't going to magically get signs from the universe that there is a channel she needs to discover of her parents being abused. Nobody ever reached out to her until when they did when a family member saw it. She wasn't allowed to speak to Heather and Mike either; they wouldn't let her talk to them or the kids. All she could do was look at photos she found on the internet.

I hope that the other kids get taken away and given to their real father just because fuck them even if they were ready to do a 180 and also because abuse tends to transfer.

I want an apple pecan pie cheesecake. Can anyone make me one?

 

[pr3nt177]

"Maryland (where the Martins live) at that time declared it Corporal Punishment to physically, mentally, and emotionally abuse your kids." is not a factual statement. It's an interpretation and a questionable one at that, and it's one which calls into question the credibility of the person making the statement. It's certainly a statement you can make online when trying to use emotion to sway someone to your viewpoint, but you'd be eaten alive if you made such a claim in court (which is where this will ultimately be determined).

The "mum side" would be far better off sticking to the facts and only the facts than making public claims which can easily be disproven in the courtroom.

Ah ok. I've been reading his stuff since this Martin saga started as his tweets always seemed to be proved correct so I naturally assumed his reporting re Maryland, Corporal Punishment to be spot on.

HAHAHAHA.



She wasn't aware he had that channel. She was only aware of a different channel. She is their mother but she isn't going to magically get signs from the universe that there is a channel she needs to discover of her parents being abused. Nobody ever reached out to her until when they did when a family member saw it. She wasn't allowed to speak to Heather and Mike either; they wouldn't let her talk to them or the kids. All she could do was look at photos she found on the internet.

I hope that the other kids get taken away and given to their real father just because fuck them even if they were ready to do a 180 and also because abuse tends to transfer.

I want an apple pecan pie cheesecake. Can anyone make me one?

No sorry, I've just devoured a chocolate sauce sponge pudding with Devon clotted cream, if I'd known you were hungry I would have saved you a morsel.

I was curious about how much they were actually making. Sorry if this was already posted....I know it's old but it shows $0 monthly when you look them up on social blade ATM.

Bloody hell that's a decent amount, mind you you can't polish a turd.

 

[repentance]

Ah ok. I've been reading his stuff since this Martin saga started as his tweets always seemed to be proved correct so I naturally assumed his reporting re Maryland, Corporal Punishment to be spot on.

Maryland may well have stupid laws regarding corporal punishment, but it's not relevant. What's relevant is who handled the complaint by the mother, what they said, and the reason given for no further action being taken. The exact words, not someone's interpretation of them.

If you can't state who said something, when they said it, and exactly what they said, it is devastatingly easy to have your statement characterised as a lie and have the rest of your assertions called into question. You don't want to leave yourself open to that in a case where it's possible neither parent will end up with the children.

Crystal is the source of much of the information and she's made some extremely bold assertions, but they're not worth a damn if she can't back them up with actual evidence in court. She could actually harm Rose's case rather than help it if she's not very careful.

 

[Southern Belle]

I was curious about how much they were actually making. Sorry if this was already posted....I know it's old but it shows $0 monthly when you look them up on social blade ATM.

He's still making money off his gaming channel anyway. / archive

 

[Dysnomia]

About a week or so ago, someone from Mike's family was posting here, and he more or less confirmed this. The guy also mentioned that Mike molested his little sister.

I hope that these kids can be saved. I'm glad that they were taken away.

 

[pewpaws]

I can understand why people ask about the bio-mom not doing anything to get Cody and Emma back. I think she tried but for me she seems like someone who is silent, shy and gullible. Then in the other end is TeamO5 who are very loud, very vocal and very talkative and manipulative. I can think plenty of stuff they could've been saying and bio-mom believeing. "You gave them to us. Nobody will believe you because you gave them to us. You can try but you will fail. Can you afford losing in a ciurt because we will win." Etc etc. With low income and easily manipulated mind it's not a surprise she lost the kids.

 

[repentance]

I can understand why people ask about the bio-mom not doing anything to get Cody and Emma back. I think she tried but for me she seems like someone who is silent, shy and gullible. Then in the other end is TeamO5 who are very loud, very vocal and very talkative and manipulative. I can think plenty of stuff they could've been saying and bio-mom believeing. "You gave them to us. Nobody will believe you because you gave them to us. You can try but you will fail. Can you afford losing in a ciurt because we will win." Etc etc. With low income and easily manipulated mind it's not a surprise she lost the kids.

Oh, it definitely doesn't help that she self-represented in the initial proceedings. She literally has brain damage and isn't a quick thinker, which wouldn't have helped in court. Do5 might not be a very nice person, but he's cunning as a shithouse rat and it's easy to see how she could be tag-teamed by him and his accomplice.

That said, she needs to prove that she's able to now cope with the challenges she was unable to cope with 3 years ago if she wants custody returned to her on a long term basis. Proving that he shouldn't have custody isn't the same as proving that she should. She definitely can't afford to be perceived as using this situation for publicity or money.

 

[2_blank_spaces]

I've literally developed a tension headache just from reading the first page and looking at the videos.

I'm so fucking glad something was done...

 

[Hen in a tie]

I'm surprised they weren't letting Rosy do supervised visits.

 

[moomoomilkchan]

So I've been skimming through this thread and I just wanted to point out that I don't believe the Martins are as well-off as you may think, or that they're earning anything substantial from that sweet Youtube ad revenue.

The house they lived in prior to December was foreclosed and sold at auction this month.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3930-Benson-Ave-Baltimore-MD-21227/36263126_zpid/

The current house they live in was listed as a rental and the listing was removed back in November, which leads me to think they're just renting it.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11117-Innsbrook-Way-Ijamsville-MD-21754/36882196_zpid/

The rent is in the listing is $2,800 a month, and at that point you might wonder why bother renting and just get a home loan? Well, when you get foreclosed on because you don't fucking pay your mortgage, banks are very reluctant to lend to you again. I'd say he's on the low end of the youtube earnings estimation, because if he was pulling 6 figures a month, he'd be able to buy a house outright without a loan.

 

[Xenomorph]

So I've been skimming through this thread and I just wanted to point out that I don't believe the Martins are as well-off as you may think, or that they're earning anything substantial from that sweet Youtube ad revenue.

The house they lived in prior to December was foreclosed and sold at auction this month.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3930-Benson-Ave-Baltimore-MD-21227/36263126_zpid/

The current house they live in was listed as a rental and the listing was removed back in November, which leads me to think they're just renting it.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11117-Innsbrook-Way-Ijamsville-MD-21754/36882196_zpid/

The rent is in the listing is $2,800 a month, and at that point you might wonder why bother renting and just get a home loan? Well, when you get foreclosed on because you don't fucking pay your mortgage, banks are very reluctant to lend to you again.

The house that abuse built.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

I'm surprised they weren't letting Rosy do supervised visits.

She couldn't afford gas money on a single round trip.

 

[Erica]

I'm surprised they weren't letting Rosy do supervised visits.

She was allowed phone calls and then for some reason they stopped allowing her to talk to Cody and Emma. I believe she said she didn't travel to them before for a medical reason.

 

[repentance]

I'm surprised they weren't letting Rosy do supervised visits.

She was allowed visits. Do5 and step-mother from hell just did everything possible to make it difficult for them to have them.

I believe she said she didn't travel to them before for a medical reason.

This is where it gets messy. She claims that she was unable to travel long distances following surgery but her recovery period from the surgery would not have been long term. It may have prevented her travelling for a month or two at most.

Do5 and his bitch were doing everything to thwart her, but she's done herself no favours either at times.

I hope the court appoints an independent lawyer for the children because I don't think there are any simple answers to this one.

 

[RobertPaulson]

She couldn't afford gas money on a single round trip.

Again, we need a sad rating. This is heartbreaking.

 

[VermilionFluttershy]

If they don't abandon it, then either Ryan or Alex. Jake's still "too valuable" to prank and Mike and Heather would likely throw more of a shitfit if they get pranked.

But right now, I think there's a 50% chance the channel's not going to be up much longer.

Either that or one of the remaining three will be suddenly find that they are the new Cody.

This may sound crazy, but I'm actually kinda glad Mike made his channel. Who knows how long this could have kept going if they hadn't been dumb enough to record the shit they put their kids through.