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Our catboy has been through her history today deleting posts and comments. I was able to see her posts just fine this morning without a 3rd party app but now the posts you have quoted above are (contents) deleted. Maybe she's been tipped off that the ebil notsees on kiwifarms are holding her up as a cautionary tale to other pooners. She had commented that 'terfs' on tiktok had been making fun of her.

I hate when the cows start hiding their output when I've just gotten hooked on their stories. I'd like her to live happily ever after but the odds aren't great of that happening. Who was our dead pooner (Gruffin) from earlier? She had so many issues from her urinary tract alone and I can see catboy percolating her own end run to death.
Gruffin strikes me deep. I had an 'aunt' die from a uti and thinking of the uti, facial paralysis, and flayed arm makes it so much worse. You know what that aunt of mine did? Die alone and painfully alone. Catgirl I mean boy has a tickinging bomb in her and it only stops when IT wants to stop.
 
He wants the symphysis reshaped??
At this point in the post, around half of female kiwis who have had a baby are gasping in horror, but for those of you who are gents or haven’t had the fun of late pregnancy or birth, I shall explain.
The joint he’s talking about, the one at the front of the pelvis, is critical for stability. In all women who give birth, the ligaments relax when a hormone called relaxin is released during late pregnancy. This gives the pelvis some wiggle room to get the baby out.
Why gasping in horror? Well, a proportion of women have that joint loosen too much and they end up with a condition called SPD and unable to walk without severe pain. For most women it resolves after birth, but more than you’d think are left with a tiny bit of mobility in that joint and constant pain.
If you mess with that joint you’re going to be in pain forever, on crutches, and possibly in a wheelchair.
So go for it mate! Be the woman you’ve always dreamt of!
I need to add to this about SPD.

There are only two things I wouldn’t wish on the world’s most evil people: losing a child and SPD. I’ve had SPD twice, and I say this with complete raw honesty that if it wouldn’t have harmed my babies, I would have taken myself out. 100%.

Being pregnant again it’s not labor or postpartum complications that I fear — it’s the high chance of getting SPD again. The pain is unbearable but luckily the second my babies were born, it vanished. Even after after a C-section, walking was actually pleasant because the SPD was gone. I didn’t even need pain meds — the relief alone was better than any drug or high .

Sorry for PL but this simply shows, AGAIN, just how fucked up this death cult is.
 
My stream weakened, lots of pressure to pee, constant dripping, and then finaly peeing was mostly drops.
Pooner speedrunning the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia. Way to go dood!
 
How did her bladder fill up so badly that it caused seizures and permanent damage in just hours? Was it filling with blood?
She's just not a reliable historian.

Notice she says she's "pretty sure" she has permanent bladder damage from this single episode. Doesn't sound like that's a professional opinion.

I don't think she was actually seizing, either. Not in an ED, for literal hours; they'd have hit her with lorazepam. Also she said she was verbal throughout, begging them to kill her. I think she's saying "seizure" to describe an overwhelming emotional state and flailing that probably felt uncontrollable to her at the time. And she hit the bed rails or she just made repetitive movements enough that she's sore after.

Bloody urine in a catheter doesn't necessarily mean a bladder full of blood. Pooner is describing a very difficult (urethral) catheterization, due to her bespoke genitalia. Industry term is "traumatic catheterization," but it tends to be in men with big prostates, frail people, people on blood thinners. Think of inserting a urinary catheter like shoving a soda straw way up your nose; you wouldn't be surprised if you got a nosebleed. It's delicate tissue and it gets a lot of bloodflow. Now imagine you stuck a straw up your nose after you'd had a nosejob.

Pooner's saying that "nothing but blood came out for the longest time," which isn't an actual time period and also leads me to think she's exaggerating. I am not denying that blood where it shouldn't be is scary! However, a little bit of blood can turn a lot of pee red. This chart is intended for discussing continuous bladder irrigation (CBI), so it's what comes out of a bladder that's getting a continuous saline drip (as well as still receiving pee from the kidneys):
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Middle catheter tubing is the goal for CBI; the two on the left mean you need to back down on the saline, or possibly clamp it. (The descriptive words are on the image because it's from a study trying to clarify communication re: bloody urine.)

The pooner's bladder was probably overfull for a while before she came to the ED, already distressed because she was in pain and couldn't pee. The kidneys kept chugging along during the few hours it took to get the cath in, so she was in more pain as more urine was added, and getting more and more panicked as she worried they wouldn't be able to help her. The bladder can really make itself a priority, so she had this internal somatic engine of pain and panic that was sending signals to the same kind of brain that decides to poon out in the first place.

Pooner speedrunning the symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia. Way to go dood!
As soon as enough surgeons realize they can use this simile, it'll spread all over pooner Reddit and become yet another "affirmation" they use to stay self-deluded.
 
Speaking of watching trash TV growing up and reference based comparisons, it's funny to me that August was unaware of women also getting leg lengthening surgery, because I first learned of it on an episode of Oprah where she interviewed a Chinese woman that underwent it to be a couple inches taller. It becoming more a "male" operation is relatively recent.
Very late and gay on all this but... holy shit great video. New rabbit hole for me to go down.

How insane do you have to be as a male to think that going from 5'7" to 6'3" with giant plates and screws in your legs isn't going to:

1) Utterly fuck the biomechanics of your entire body from your knees to your back (also lol at him walking around like a bowlegged bitch after all this talk about height aesthetics)

2) Leave you probably in crippling pain with horrible arthritis at 40 instead of 60

What a mongoloid that guy is. As he limps around on crutches next to normal 5'8" men with a TikTok saying "this is professional height-mogging." Lol goddamn. But even so, as and I must scream points out... it's still LESS insane than letting anyone wield a scalpel next to your genitals for "aesthetic" reasons.

so that my PS2 could run bootleg games. When I tried to install it, I ruined my machine.
Had a best friend who did the same thing to his Xbox. I remember patting him on the back and letting him play mine.

If instead he had decided to scalpel his nutsack, I'd have punched him in the jaw and told him NO like you would to bad pet (the "NO", not the punching I don't punch pets)

highlight how even the nice ones don't look... right
Imagine getting a "designer pussy" quote "installed" and it making you look like you were sex-trafficked by some horror-gang that burned your genitals for fun. Even if this dweeb ever has sex with that, ehm, "pussy" (you never know, imagine the proto-incels from reddit who are MtF sex-positive) they're gonna be wondering what the fuck happened to that thing.

this retarded man seems to have some buyer's remorse - and unfortunately for him, one cannot keep receipts to return for a purchase like this
Sayeth the MtF: " I made a really rash decision about taking the decision to have surgery, and I simply wish I had a penis again...So my question is, what could I do to go back? Maybe not now, but in the future. What methods could work?"

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That's the neat thing. You don't [get to ever go back]!

Keep up the fine work Magic Pickle, you're the GOAT

Why wouldn’t you just move onto the next insane unscientific butchery when that comes up (I dunno, how about making furries into real animals?)

"Listen, all I did was sew these three people together anus-to-mouth; I'm not a monster, they ALL really really loved watching The Human Centipede!" -vascular surgeon in 2035, previously known for their transgender surgeries

Dr. Mengele is looking up at us from hell and shaking his head, thinking "why couldn't I just have been born a century later!?!"
 
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I need to add to this about SPD.

There are only two things I wouldn’t wish on the world’s most evil people: losing a child and SPD. I’ve had SPD twice, and I say this with complete raw honesty that if it wouldn’t have harmed my babies, I would have taken myself out. 100%.

Being pregnant again it’s not labor or postpartum complications that I fear — it’s the high chance of getting SPD again. The pain is unbearable but luckily the second my babies were born, it vanished. Even after after a C-section, walking was actually pleasant because the SPD was gone. I didn’t even need pain meds — the relief alone was better than any drug or high .

Sorry for PL but this simply shows, AGAIN, just how fucked up this death cult is.
To add PL, I have never had children but I have had that joint get out of wack and it is EXTREMELY painful even to have a very mild case of anything wrong with it. I had to have physical therapy on my hips/pelvis to re-align the joint because it would click and PINCH. Kiwis, have you ever been pinched by your own bones?? It sucks so bad! What kind of retard would do anything to this part of their body on purpose? What kind of evil cult would convince someone it's totally fine to do?
 
She's just not a reliable historian ... I don't think she was actually seizing, either.
Also she said she was verbal throughout, begging them to kill her.
I think she's saying "seizure" to describe an overwhelming emotional state
I know this rehashes my earlier post about initial sympathy yielding to disgust, but I keep having this reaction. These people have genuine body horrors going on, which despite being due to their own decisions would still elicit sympathy from most normal people.

But then they spin up these histrionic stories about how the ER/clinic left them seizing on the floor with their head spinning around backwards because muh heckin' troonsphobia, when the reality is they were probably just waiting behind a bunch of illegals like everyone else, and decided to act obnoxious.
 
I came across u/falloutcatboy's latest post and checked in here to see if anyone like @Magic Pickle had documented it.

Some of the "advice" given by the redditors (props to Magic Pickle AGAIN for the archive link) on falloutcatboy's terrible fall from grace is laughably sad: just call your PCP bro and get it sorted! At least in America this is a wildly absurd bit of advice. Sorry for the minor PL but recently I did a fairly middling fuck-up of my back and the most my PCP could do was xray it, look at the xrays and say "mmm yep, your spine is still there!" and recommend I go to an orthopedic/spine specialist. This is for a work-related back injury which would never require surgery even though it was pretty bad. These psychos are getting horrendously invasive and untested surgeries and expecting their mom-and-pop doc-shop that mostly deals with diabetes, hypertension, sinus infections, etc to be able to do ANYTHING about it? Holy fuck are they in for a bad time.

Thread tax: One of the better cocks with "pump" functionality I've ever seen here!

This is like a best-best case scenario (kinda aesthetic, gets "hard") and it only took multiple surgeries including the pooner not knowing if they'd need another surgery upon their "final" post-op visit (I'm not making that up, read the post and imagine this: even when everything goes "perfect" these lil' d00ds just have to keep going to the doc until the doc thinks "nah I don't need any more money" because the d00ds aren't even sure if they're good enough yet.)

look at this heckin valid lil' d00d with his "foreskin" hoodie (is that intentional, idk?) and its terrifyingly fuzzy lil' balls

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Edit: also just noticed the heating pad... someone feeling those lower back PMS pains?? Do p00ners have to deal with that shit, I don't even know... :stress:
 
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look at this heckin valid lil' d00d with his "foreskin" hoodie (is that intentional, idk?) and its terrifyingly fuzzy lil' balls
The "dick" is pretty special, but holy shit those nips.

Nip 1: "That's my purse!"

Nip 2: "I don't know you!"

Dick: :kicks you in the balls:
 
This is a series of updates from falloutcatboy who is still enduring continued issues around urination.
That video broke me even though it’s nowhere near as gory as the other stuff Magic Pickle posts. That stream is so weak. Her urethra extension ruined her ability to piss, let alone piss with force. Which, you know, makes sense. Men naturally have longer urethras, so they have a more robust bulbospongiosus muscle to help get the pee out. Furthermore, this chick is using graft material that lacks sphincters and muscles. It’s basically a slide and gravity is the best they can get.

In actual men, bladder pressure, muscle contractions, and gravity push urine out through the penis. In a phalloplasty, one only has bladder pressure, so the constructed urethra is passive. That is, it doesn’t push back or contract. That’s probably why the stream looks slower, thinner, and lacks projection.

She might be voiding her bladder but not her urethra. There’s probably residual urine trapped inside. That urine can dribble out later, which is obviously humiliating, but possibly not the worst part. The pH of urine and concomitant moisture can cause skin irritation, especially if there's pooling or prolonged contact.

I did a big of googling on this
“post-void dribbling” - and it’s very common in FTMs. After voiding, some urine may remain in the pseudo-phallus’s neourethra. The piss can dribble out minutes later, especially when said pooner changes position (e.g., standing up, walking). This is not the same as failing to empty your bladder. The bladder may be fully emptied, but the pseudo-phallus tube itself is not.

This is because the neourethra has sags, kinks, or “dead space” where urine pools. We’ve all seen how floppy these things are. No muscles exist in the neophallus to squeeze urine out, so even with perfect surgical technique, this is often unavoidable due to physics and anatomy.

Creating a neourethra during phalloplasty often involves rolling flat tissue into a tube (e.g., from forearm, thigh, or mucosal grafts). To turn that into a functional, watertight urethra, the surgeon has to:
  1. Roll it into a tube;
  2. Suture the seam shut along its length; and…
  3. Connect it to the original urethra and / or other tissue grafts.
It’s very much like rolling a piece of cloth and trying to stitch it into a clean cylinder. If the stitching isn't perfectly even, it can pucker, bunch, or create unevenness. Those puckers or overlaps inside the tube can create "dead spaces", aka little dips or pockets where urine can pool. Even if the stitching is technically precise, the healing process can cause swelling or scar tissue that alters the shape slightly and introduces irregularities.

That’s where the sewing analogy falls apart. That’s fabric, a predictable, uniform material. Whereas this is living, healing, vascularized tissue. As it heals, scar tissue can form unpredictably, sometimes tightening parts of the tube and leaving others a bit baggy. Plus, the tube doesn’t have natural muscle tone, so there’s no way for the urethra to contract and clear itself. Surgeons can do things in stages and try to be careful about seam placement, but it’s an absolute fucking crapshoot.

So their neourethra is full of piss. This can cause skin irritation or rashes from residual moisture and urine acidity. UTIs can develop if bacteria grow in retained urine or the neourethra. Odor becomes an issue, especially if hygiene is difficult. That’s why so many pooners speak of needing to “milk” their phallus post-piss (like pressing from base to tip) to express residual urine. Constant
wetness, especially in folds or where there's friction, can cause a myriad of problems, including:
  • Excoriation (aka skin breakdown);
  • Inflammation (aka urethritis); and…
  • Fistulas or strictures (especially immediately post-op).
Basically, it’s a fucking nightmare and there’s no way to succeed. Even the best and most well-intentioned surgeons cannot guarantee consistent stitching. Combined with the in-built limitations of graph skin, you have a surgery that only produces bathroom trouble. [Insert Tesla quote here.]

TLDR: Magic Pickle is a 10/10 poster. Your body is a precious gift. Even the smartest humans cannot recreate what nature produces unprompted.
 
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Gruffin strikes me deep. I had an 'aunt' die from a uti and thinking of the uti, facial paralysis, and flayed arm makes it so much worse. You know what that aunt of mine did? Die alone and painfully alone. Catgirl I mean boy has a tickinging bomb in her and it only stops when IT wants to stop.
Seeing them in hospital degenerating, seeing how their brains started malfunctioning as their body shut down, and hearing stories from my cousins and other relatives about things like being raving and incoherent because of things like chemical imbalances and pain, is a kind of horror that I do think lingers with you. And
PL I have seen the raving delirium in person (90+ year old mother). She has lost over a week of her life with each episode.

Catboy’s surgeon is an unfamiliar name to me: Dr McClung, “urologist with fellowship training in reconstructive surgery” who is assisted by a Dr Kale, urologic surgeon. He operates a boutique gender affirming care clinic in Columbus Ohio USA. Their clinic offers the following procedures:

In fact Dr McClung’s entire website is a hoot. Www.RSA-docs.com He saw the money train barreling down the tracks and he jumped on board with both feet, a missionary zeal and zero scruples. I tried searching the thread for additional victims but didn’t find any.
 
I think you’re missing the most important takeaway from falloutcatboy’s post: her issues with urinating are functional - the urologist says so and there are no structural problems that prevent her from peeing according to her own post about imaging. In addition to this , she’s clearly describing a functional seizure (PNES) in the post.

Functional problems are different from faking. She truly can’t pee, and the pain is real. But there are no structural or truly organic issues, it’s just that the function is fucked up. Signals don’t signal etc.

Any helpful intervention now would be psychoeducational and psychological (and address emergency medical issues), but the surgeon can’t make it better by slicing her rotdog open again.

People of Autism are more susceptible to functional disorders which is reason number 4000 why SRS is a terrible thing.

ETA: lol I mean, there are ”no structural issues” except for the fact that there is a man-made abomination attached to her groin, but that goes without saying, maybe.
 
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Depending on how things fare for her, I have a feeling falloutcatboy may be eligible for an entry in the SRS Hall of Shame. What do you think, @toilet_rainbow?

I believe she does. The Gruffin comparisons everyone is making are apt. Main thing I’d need to add her later is a masterlist of updates and aliases. You can do that if you wish, or it can be done later in this thread or the Hall of Shame one.
 
Dr. Mehmet Fatih Okyay AKA Dr. MFO
Fun fact: “okyay” was what this surgeon said during the consult when asked “can you turn my spade face into a dainty lady face?”
To be polite to mobile users or anyone having attachment issues
It’s very thoughtful of you, please never leave us or stop feeding the thread. I would literally die if that happened.
 
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