🎨 Artcow Ellen Woodbury / Pizzacake / Pizzacakecomic - A 40 year old webcomic artist, mother, porn star, misandrist, dramacow and Reddit celebrity. Threatens to sue her critics and cuckolds her husband. Female Andrew Dobson.

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Apologies for the doublepost. I wanted to publish it here to possibly move onto part 3.

WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilaiton post with links to all the sections later down the line.

This is part 2 of the comprehensive Ellen psychoanalysis. In part 1, we went over the definition of the narcissistic personality disorder and the antisocial personality disorder, as well as some of Ellen's sexual paraphilias. This post, instead, will go into detail on Ellen's more illegal sexual deviancies, specifically, preference towards raw, unprotected sex, rape tendencies and her fucked up morality, including the origin of such paraphilias. Let's begin then, shall we?

Spoiler: Deviancy, part 2

Spoiler: Risky sex

A large chunk of this section, I have already went over in the Painter post, including more evidence about her attraction to it, so I am once again redirecting you here.
However, there's additional context I haven't yet acknowledged.
See, Ellen made several comics about her periods. Most of them from a few years back, including this comic,
(archive)

and this comic.
(archive)

However, this comic, originally posted four years ago,
(archive)

has actually been reposted very recently and was one of Ellen's last Threads posts before her hiatus.
(archive)

Now, this is interesting. See, while birth control pills do not always prevent periods completely, they often weaken their intensity to a large degree. And yet, Ellen still made several comics about having painful periods, something that strongly implies she's not on birth control.
Considering Ellen has a creampie fetish, as she said in her Bonus Q&A,

a lot of her comics depict creampies, none of them depict Ellen using any sort of mechanical birth control, like condoms, and Ellen has never made creampie pics on her Onlyfans despite having several pics of her having cum on her pussy (again, more in the Painter post), this seems to be...fucked. The only option that could feasibly remain is the copper IUD, but those are very painful to insert and not all that common.
The only time any of her comics acknowledges birth control is the Painter comic, in which Ellen states she's not on it. In the middle of the sex, mind you.


Now, the Painter comic is well known for the depiction of Ellen raping a guy in the alternate version by forcing him to impregnate her...but it's actually a bit more fucked than people give it credit for, including this sketch the snark mod once made.

Spoiler: Still NSFW.

See, part 5 of the Painter comic ends with a panel of Ellen telling the guy she's on the pill. Part 6 opens up with an outside ejaculation.
However, the alternate ending begins with Ellen leglocking the guy. The assumption is that this replaces part 6, so Ellen informed the guy of the fact she's not on birth control, the guy consciously consented, then she leglocked him and got him to knock her up.
This is, however, not the case, as can be clearly shown if you look at these two sets, side by side.

Spoiler: NSFW, normal version.

Spoiler: NSFW, alternate version

As you can see, these panels are meant to depict the exact same scene, but do so in different ways.
This also means that, in the alternate version, Ellen did not inform the guy that she was on birth control, leglocked him, then forced him to creampie her, leading to him impregnating her.
In other words, Ellen raped a guy.
I think we shoud all now know how her children were concieved.
I think this will make a nice segway to the next section of this analysis.

Spoiler: Rape

For a second there, I will need to be completely serious and down to earth.

Ellen is a victim of sexual abuse.

I have seen many people discredit this in the past, saying she made this all up for clout...but, frankly, the influences of that are prevalent throurought all of Ellen's psyche.
Besides, the first few times she mentioned this were on her old Reddit account, u/sexyhangnail, an account that, as we have seen before, she was a lot more open about herself on. The two big ones are these two, almost back to back posts, on November 20, 2012, over 13 years ago,

as well as this post from a few years later.

They go into a lot of detail about Ellen's past relationships, and there are a few important details we will bring up now, though I will bring most of it up only when we get to her relationships.
First, Ellen is attracted to older men. The smallest age gap was 4, usually 5, but Jeff is over 9 years older than her...
This was the worst, by far, when she lost her virginity, at the age of 16, to a 21 year old. Even if that was legal by Canadian law (the age of consent in the 90's, when it happened, was 14), stuff like this can be very traumatic for the development of humans, especially due to the inbalance in the power dynamic.
Second, Ellen was in abusive relationships in the past and experienced assault of many kinds, including sexual assault.
This is also something she acknowledged on her current Reddit account, namely, in the two big comics focused about it.
First is "Defensive"
(archive)

Now, there are a few interesting parts about this comic, and while a lot of them are more suited for misandry, they will serve as relevant context for this section later on.
First of all, Ellen shows, on full blast, yet another mental problem with her, one that has been recently nicknamed "Goomba Fallacy", after this edit of a soyjak meme, starring Goombas.

Ellen has had bad experiences with men in the past, as I have shown. Therefore, she believes all men are evil.
Therefore, when she sees men that are genuinely nice and do nothing wrong, she assumes they must be massive morons, since it's hypocritical for them to say that they are nice when they are actually all rapists.
Therefore, "Everyone on this website is stupid except for me"
This serves as a foundation for all of her misandry and is yet another reason why I believe the sexual abuse that she suffered to be real.

However...there's also a second thing to mention.
See, this comic was involved in two separate controversies.
One was about the misandry on display, and thus weaponisation of Ellen's own tragedies against of other people. This is actually the reason why the second comic of hers depicting this abuse, named "Hurt", exists, which was released shortly after the doxxing to save her own face.
(archive)

This comic was full on sympathy farming and was the biggest weaponisation of Ellen's trauma to date. This is why so many people believe she made it all up, because here, her experiences with rape were used specifically as a way to target people she hated. People whom she deemed evil. And, while, true, doxxing sucks and is absolutely horrible, it's even worse to wipe your ass with other people's tragedies in an attempt to go after a group of people that did something evil to you.

However...the second thing that came out of this was a second, way worse drama, which exposed to the world Ellen's worst fetish, born out of her childhood trauma.
See...the "hater" character she included in this comic has actually been featured in Ellen's comic she uploaded onto her Patreon eight months prior, and which, up until that point, went unnoticed. You all know what I'm talking about, so let's get to it.

On November 28, 2023, Ellen made the following poll on her Patreon.

Alongside selfcest (explained before) and pregnancy comic (explained in the previous section), the third option is "Ellen wins over with a "hater"".
Note the wording. "wins over".
I will talk about it more in Kali's Morality, but Ellen seems to fully view rape as a punishment for even the most minor crimes. After all, when her ex bf hit her, it was for no reason. She can do just the same. After all, it's "punishment". She has actually shown that in the Locked Out comic (linked in prior sections)

Spoiler: NSFW

To Ellen, being nice to someone, being insulted by her, then going on the internet to talk about how women treat you badly (justifiably, you geninely did nothing wrong here), mandates a "punishment".
Therefore, it's no wonder that Ellen came up with an idea of making a rape comic involving her hater OC and sell it for $12 (first two panels)/$58 (final panel) on her Patreon account.
Part 1.
Part 2.

Spoiler: NSFW

I think it should be immediately obvious to anyone with half a braincell why this is such a horrible comic.
However, since there are, unironically, people who believe otherwise, including Olii's head mod,

I will have to elaborate on it.

First of all, here's an edit I have made of the Painter comic, using the dialogue from this comic to create a version of the hater comic where the roles are reversed. Just see for yourself how bad this looks.

Spoiler: NSFW

I will talk about it more in the misandry section, but, as I have stated above, due to Ellen viewing all men as rapists and nothing more, she believes she has a moral high ground over men to commit the same actions as them, while garnering a whole different reaction. South Park had an episode about that.

Then...see, the hater is supposedly kept there for a day, at least, and is never shown being let out, kept until he starves in an endless sex dungeon, an endless, white plane, surrounded by a pink gradient void and a black gradient behind him, with the only other object beside him being a pillow.

Then, ignoring the obvious TOS breaks of this comics, which I will go into more detail later...this is just a shitty BDSM comic.
Most BDSM artists focus heavily on the aspects of consent, willingness of subjects to go through all of this, and safewords. A now gone BDSM comic artist I enjoyed heavily (though TW: loadsa gender identity stuff), welcome_2_heaven, placed heavy focus on it, including safewords and clarifying consent mid session. Here's just one of many such examples.

Spoiler: NSFW

This is how it's done, and what Ellen should learn from. This is not just lazy, but also downright breaking the TOS.
Besides, even if the work was fully consensual, as I have also learned via this artist, a few months after the hater comic, Patreon enacted the rules clarifying that consent had to be given directly in the work.



Is this the case with the Hater comic? Pfft.
I'd say that, since it didn't have to do it by then, it'd be excused, then again, the comic does not show a fully consensual activity, and the descriptions of the posts do not suggest it either. On the contrary, actually.

The rule, however, applies to all three (yes, three!) of her later rape comics. We have gone over the painter comic, so now we will discuss the gym gf comic (interesting, since it's the only comic where she depicts herself as a victim) and the trap comic.
Now, due to the fact that the prior comic was affected by the Patreon purge, I will be using her Onlyfans post instead, where she reuploaded some of those problematic works again.
(archive)
(coomer)
Now, the Onlyfans version features one panel that isn't in the later Patreon reupload. I will go over that first, before anything else.

...yeah, no, I can see why she removed that from the Patreon reupload. This doesn't just not imply consent, but it actively implies Ellen did not consent to any of this.
And, for the record, since I didn't have the ability to put that anywhere before, here's how the Canadian law defines situations of no consent obtained.

The gym gf comic violates "the complainant expresses, by words or conduck, a lack of agreement to engage in the activity". The hater comic, even if consensual, which I doubt, would still violate "the complainant, having consented to engage in sexual activity, expresses, by words or conduct, a lack of agreement to engage in the activity". In other words, the hater, by revoking consent, turns the act into rape.
Hell, even some of her ealrier comics, depicting such acts, such as this one,

Spoiler: NSFW

had the excuse of having the previous parts imply consent.

Let's get back to the gym gf comic.

Spoiler: NSFW

Here, shit goes from bad to worse, due to the second panel depicting breathplay (a fetish where one person controls the other person's breathing). As this is rape, Tiffany is actively suffocating Ellen under her own pussy, only letting her breathe after a few minutes of forced sexual activity. The third panel depicts strap on penetration and the expression of Ellen in it is so weird (somewhere between pain and pleasure) that this was actually not changed at all in the later rerelease of it.
Here it is, for all of you wondering.
(archive)
(kemono)

Spoiler: NSFW

Bar the inclusion of a fourth panel, depicting a femdom act of human furniture (even more out of place there, considering the comic depicts rape) and the removal of the first panel, the second panel's dialogue was changed to no longer imply suffocation, but instead have Tiffany time Ellen...either on her breath holding ability, or how little it takes for her to make her cum)



The last rape comic is the "Trap" comic, which I touched upon there.

CHAT, WAKE UP, ELLEN MADE YET ANOTHER RAPE COMIC!

Spoiler: Deja Vu moment

The zombie (or, how she calls her biggest comic related to it, Mombie) comic is actually a great example of many of her fetishes being incorporated into her SFW work for gooner conditioning. I will be talking about it in a whole separate section about unfortunate implications later down the line, and i have already made a post covering most of it in the past, but just know that she includes all of her big fetishes in it in one way or another, from cheating, to pregnancy...to rape, as seen here.
Yeah...the flat willy comment fits perfectly here.

Besides as this is yet another instance of rape as punishment, I think it will segway us nicely into...

Spoiler: Kali's Morality

This section I can summarise entirely by quoting an ealrier post of mine.

Here, in Poland, we have several big writers that the polish education shoves works of down kids throats.
One of them is Henryk Sienkiewicz, a nobel prize winner, whose 900+ page works are mandatory readings for kids 13 and up at school.
One of his more famous works internationally is "In Desert and Wilderness", which is about a Polish kid named Staś and the Bri'ish kid named Nell, who get lost in the Sahara Desert after a kidnapping by negros.
Why am I telling you this?
See, one of the people they encounter and that joins them on their travels is Kali, a negro slave, whom they liberate from another tribe. He has something that has been quickly dubbed "Kali's Morality".
In short, it goes:
"If somebody takes Kali's cow, it's a bad deed. If Kali takes somebody's cow, it's a good deed."
Kali has it because he grew up in a primitive african tribe, but Ellen seems to have taken it to heart, believing it to be the most moral thing ever.
In short, if Ellen doxxes someone, it's good. If someone doxxes her, it's bsd.
If Ellen rapes someone, it's good. If someone rapes her, it's bad.
If Ellen harasses someone, it's good. If someone harasses her, it's bad.

This stems from egoism of both and the belief that the world revolves around them. By blocking off all outlets of criticism of her and quitting Reddit, she reaffirms herself in that belief by putting herself in a bubble, free of anything that could upset her.

This is all reaffirmed by the fact she deems rape on the same level as harassment, or doxxing. Those I will touch upon in a later section, focused around her coping with anger, but this is where I'll end it here.

Part 2 concluded the indepth look into Ellen's deviancy! Tune in to part 3, coming out sometime in the future, beginning the deeper look into Ellen's deception tactics, including her personality manufacturing, frequent use of strawmen, and ragebaiting!

 

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It's been 24 hours and nobody has replied, so I can now post again. Had this ready for over 12 hours now anyway.
WIP warning: This post, as a multi parter, is still under active development. I will be making a big compilaiton post with links to all the sections later down the line.

Part 2 went over Ellen's desire to punish people for even minor crimes with disproportionate acts, including rape, as well as her experiences with unprotected sexual intercourse and sexual assault. In this one, we will instead begin examining Ellen's deception tactics, including making up personalities for her various online site profiles, simplifying problems she doesn't understand (or that she simply pretends she doesn't), as well as ragebaiting. Strap yourselves in.

Spoiler: Deception, part 1.

From Wikipedia,

Deception is the act of convincing of one or many recipients of untrue information. The person creating the deception knows it to be false while the receiver of the information does not. It is often done for personal gain or advantage.

Deceit and dishonesty can also form grounds for civil litigation in tort, or contract law (where it is known as misrepresentation or fraudulent misrepresentation if deliberate), or give rise to criminal prosecution for fraud.

In other words, deception describes Ellen's tendency to make up information, lie about existence or validity of pre existing information, or discrediting people for the correct or subjective information they provide.
In some ways, this is simillar to manipulation, and could be used interchangebly. However, the key difference is that deception refers to the act of creating or spreading false information in order to influence people into believing your stance to be correct, whereas manipulation is forcefully taking control of information, for instance, via censorship of the information.

This is yet another instance of Ellen's traits not matching narcissist personality disorder.
See, people with NPD do not usually lie out of their own wrong will. They do so out of a misunderstanding, or by believing themselves to be superior to others. This, for instance, would be like saying that Ellen makes political posts purely out of her own sense of morality and justice. On the other hand, people with ASPD may fully know the information they spread is incorrect, yet use doublethink to convince themselves they're correct, and spread the information with full intention of decieving people.

Ellen is a master of deception. She has used her comics, very effectively, as a tool to get both lonely, single, white MAGA men, as well as the vurnerable people on the LGBTQ+ spectrum, to not only see her comics, not only financially support her, but also actively defend her on the internet. For this, she uses many manipulation tactics, such as personality manufacturing, strawmen arguments, goalpost shifting, ragebaiting, us vs. them mentality and playing the victim. I'll also be talking about her plagiarism in this section, as it provides us with valuable insight on her psyche.

Spoiler: Personality manufacturing

Personality manufacturing is a term I made up (though one that probably exists in some form in psychology, just one that I cannot find quickly and has a comprehensive description) to describe Ellen's tendency to make each of her social media platforms look and feel completely from one another. This is done via Ellen's posting habits on each platform, the type of content she uploads on them, or just how she talks to fans on them. "Personality manufacturing", therefore, refers to Ellen seemingly making up wildly different images of herself, depending on the social media site you look at her content on.

Currently (ignoring the hiatus, since that caused almost all of her sites to shut down), Ellen is active on Reddit (though I will also bring up Ellen's old account, u/sexyhangnail, for this as well), Threads, Facebook (both private and public having different ones), Instagram, Bluesky, her own website, Patreon, Onlyfans and Discord. I will quickly go over each and describe, broadly, her "personalities" on these, starting with Reddit.
Her bio does not contain anything bar links to other social media.

Ellen tends to have a following pattern for Reddit, make a couple of comments under her previous comic, upload her comic to both r/comics and on her user page, then reply to it for a bit. She tends to be active on the site mainly in the mornings and evenings, but she is there almost daily, with new comics, or reposts (though she will usually change stuff up about them), also following that pattern.

She is very inactive in communities other than r/comics and her own userpage. She will only wander into other communities when she is personally called out, or when she tries to attack/defend another comic artist (which I will touch upon later).
The types of comics she posts there are broad, but they usually consist of either "haha I am so quirky" comics,

political comics,

announcement/meta posts,

or goonerbait.

The purpose of these I will examine in the ragebaiting section, but just know that each of these types of comics targets a specific group of people and is meant to attract new people, from all political groups, to Ellen's comics.
Ellen will often argue about the meaning of the comic in the comment section, as well as bash anyone she disagrees with, as seen in some of the comments above.

This is, however, not the first Ellen reddit account, as the first one, u/sexyhangnail, used by her between 2012 and 2017, was a whole different story. At first, she actually mostly used it for relationship advice and MasterChef, only using it for art by the end.


Next, Threads.
Her profile there is an advert for her Patreon. The caption "Annoy far-right trolls" already shows who we're dealing with here.

As a matter of fact, Ellen uses her Threads solely as a platform to ragebait people while also rehashing her old comics.
In fact, Ellen has a very set cycle on Threads that she does every time, without fault.
> repost an old comic/post a new one in the morning, usually of a political variety.

> make a ragebait post, tlaking about a trending topic, by the evening.

This is occasionally done with the use of stolen internet memes instead, usually when Ellen's too lazy to make a new comic about that issue.

> occasionally argue about the argument you have just reposted with the "haters" that come to your page

Ellen, unlike with her Reddit, is very active under other people's posts.

Again, as Ellen uses her Threads specifically for political ragebait and nothing more (well, sometimes an occasional comic), this is understandable.

I will group her Instagram and her Facebook together, as both are basically comic dumps and nothing more.

Her Instagram page, however, has a bio simillar to the Threads one.

Oddly (or, well, intentionally, considering the exhibitionism sectiion where I brought it up), she does not follow the tradition of informing her fans that her Patreon is 18+, something all other artists do.
Ellen sometimes refers to her Facebook and Instagram when she gets asked about where to see her comics, like here,

or here.

As I have said, she treats both of them solely as art dumps for all of her comics. Her interacting on here is very rare. She actually seems to have priority on uploading comics to Instagram over Reddit, for instance, as the Mombie part 12 only ever got uploaded there, due to her hiatus the following day.

However, Ellen also has a private Facebook which I have taken from a few times, under the name "Ellen Elisabeth" (steming from the names of her and her daughter), where she sends uncensored pics of her whole family. For a long while, this profile was public and quite easily searchable if you looked up "Pizzacake" on Facebook, but it got privated sometime after the Honeymoon Incident (more on that in the recklessness section).


Next up, Bluesky.
Ellen considers Bluesky a safe bastion for her political comics, calling out "actual nazis".

...nothing more though, as Bluesky is basically dead.
Oh, wait, no, she briefly tried the site for a while, and has used it to relay this announcement of her Threads ban.
(archive)

We'll get to this in her anger section, yes, but also in the violating TOS section. It will also, however, DEFINITELY be used in the playing the victim section.

The last SFW outlet for her social media addiction is her own Tumblr website.
It's essentially the same thing as her Facebook and Instagram, but it is seldom updated.

It does, however, have a few cool features, such as this page which shows you all the comics, grouped by month in which they were uploaded to the site, tags, ect.

Her About page is hella outdated tho, last time it saw any changes was when she removed her family doxx off of there.

It's especially funny if we take the fact that she supposedly now has HUNDREDS of new Patrons, and the list is still stuck at around 240.

Same with her contact page.


That concludes all of the SFW outlets for her work, and all of the ones which you do not have to pay Ellen to get into.
And with that...let's get into the, possibly best example of Ellen's personality manufacturing, Patreon.

See, just like with onions, it has layers.

Because of the three various tiers, each with a different kind of content, Ellen has essentially made three different personalities for her Patreon supporters.
Allow me to explain, using posts available in all three tiers. I'll give you three separate examples too.
Her Mrs. Incredible cosplay, her Daria cosplay, and her Velma cosplay. I will be providing one pic from each, alongside a description of it.

The VIP tier, often referred to without a nickname, usually depicts Ellen donning her "cosplay" in flirty poses and nothing more. While there's technically a lower tier, that one offers absolutely nothing. Hell, since she often skips both of those tiers entirely in cosplays, as well as in most other posts, it's sorta worthless.

The descriptions of the posts are very bland, usually just talking about the character, nothing sexy yet. They do, however, always advertise higher tiers, to guilt trip you into paying more for something you're already paying $5 for.


Next up is the Xtra tier. The usual amount of exposure there is toplessness, maybe an upskirt.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Ellen will act all flirty towards you, wanting to get you to spend $46 more bucks on her a month.

This tier, also apparently, makes you elligible to learn about Ellen bruising herself severely a week before her Thread users. Hmmm.


The final tier, then, is the limits of what Patreon will allow...then again, Patreon does not allow pornographic material, so Ellen is violating their TOS anyway! (more on that in the breaking TOS section)
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Spoiler: Abandon all hope, all who enter thee

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The descriptions aren't even flirty all that often. They mostly just congratulate you like a good boy you are for being Ellen's paypig.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ellen-woodbury-pizzacake-pizzacakecomic.205488/post-23221821
And let's not forget the secret, fourth tier, where Ellen will outright send you her sex tapes if you DM her in private and donate through Ko-fi, like you were buying Kiwi Farms Gold from Null, more on that in this thread.

Ellen will post new cosplays once every week or two, usually at around midnight, but posts porn comics in the meantime, making her, on average, make a new post every five days or so.
She will interact with her fans on her Patreon, but only really under her posts, and if you call her a good girl enough.

Her Patreon chat? Pfft.
Only ever announcing new posts and to farm sympathy, once every few days.


Her Discord is even worse in that regard. Not even gonna bother showing you it, she hadn't even posted anything in, like...many weeks at this point. She only ever made the announcement you all saw me post prior, and that was just as a response to another mod.


Finally...phew, all this setup took a while, sections like these are the worst to make...Onlyfans.
Her Onlyfans is pretty strange.


She will post compilation posts of all of her nudes from Patreon, plus some Onlyfans exclusive ones, and release them every few weeks, but always at least a week behind her Patreon. Her Onlyfans is also cheaper than her Patreon, I don't really get it.


Why did I spend all this time discussing this?
See, depending on which platform you'd have used, you'd have a completely different view of who Ellen actually was.
Old Reddit - a middle aged woman that has typical middle aged problems and has massive relationship issues
New Reddit - a quirky leftist political activist that has a cool family and is against nazis
Threads - a political commentator, making comics about current events and encouraging discussion on them
Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr - a random comic artist
Private Facebook - a typical tradwife, going on frequent vacations with her husband and her kids
Bluesky - a woman too dangerous for the American media, making witty comics about serious tragedies
Lowest tier Patreon - a cool comic artist that has some pretty creative ideas
Mid tier Patreon - a horny woman that is very open sexually and will get you off if you pay her
High tier Patreon - an absolute slut that wants to be dominated by men and has zero other thoughts in her head bar cock
Discord - a constantly busy woman who is never online
Onlyfans - a sex pest

This is what I mean by "personality manufacturing" and "Do you genuinely believe Ellen cares about those things?". Because she doesn't. She only cares about attention and money, and will adapt her content to whatever platform she's on.

Spoiler: Strawmen

Where do I even begin.
I guess the definition of a strawman fallacy, from Wikipedia:

A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man"), instead of the opponent's proposition.< Straw man arguments have been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly regarding highly charged emotional subjects.

Strawman arguments are arguments that, either on purpose, or due to ignorance, misrepresent the actual arguments in question in order to declare your side as a clear victor without actually debunking an argument.
Ellen does this for many reasons. The simplest of which is actually a flaw of her comic style.

See, it's actually kinda hard to make a compelling deconstruction of an argument in this specific four panel format, especially when all the panels are just, y'know, Ellen talking. Due to the fact that most things in life can't really be summarised with a four panel comic, they have to either be stretched thin, or way oversimplified.

The other is that Ellen doesn't really know what she's talking about in most instances. She doesn't care about those issues because she's a justice warrior, no. She only cares about them because they're what's trendy and what will give her clicks. It's no wonder all of them end up at the top of r/comics!


I'm gonna be providing some examples for both of them shortly, for closer analysis, but, to make it easier on myself, I'll skip over archiving them, because, frankly, if I did, I'd just be wasting a few more hours on something that applies to almost all of Ellen's political comics and even if they somehow got deleted, you'd be able to find at least a 100 more.

Just a random comic off the bat, "Unemployment"

Here, Ellen makes up a "Business Jerk" strawman in order to explain to you how companies laying off people, replacing them with AI and union busting causes unemployment.
The issue is, however, far more complex than that, regardless of your political beliefs. The left, for instance, would tell you that the issue also stems from factors such as different work etiquette of younger people, different approaches to work hours, them already being overworked by stuff like college and dayjobs to afford said college, ect, ect. The right, on the other hand, will tell you that this is due to the lack of qualified workers, import of foreign workers to take over those jobs due to cost cutting measures (or, how they will describe it, "woke") and lack of manual workers due to everyone overqualifying for IT and brain jobs. It's not really something you can summarise in a four panel comic, and which just makes this guy look like a moron.

On the other hand, you have, also randomly picked, "Don't be a Lauwren" comic.

Here, Ellen exhibits ignorance of the subject by generalising, fingering all Christians as ruthless monsters who hate everyone besides them for no good reason. And, again, if you were a leftist, you'd say that there's nothing wrong with Christianity and that comics spreading harassment against a religion for something that only a group of Christians ever commit, and that other groups also commit to simillar degrees, are, frankly, stupid. If you were a rightoid, however, you'd say that some of her concerns were valid, especially since ICE is doing its job in maintaining the safety of the country's borders, and, as such, she's getting shat on for something that's actually morally correct. The strawman here is a sign of ignorance of Ellen on the subject.

Let's take another one, shall we?

Now, surprisingly, this is an actually "almost good" comic. It's a single panel comic, with a visual punchline, something perfect for the political cartoon section in a newspaper only your grandma would ever read nowadays.
Of course, it still contains a strawman, in this case, a MAGA guy, who is meant to represent MAGA's apparent coldless hate of everyone who's not a straight white male...and is, therefore, still a case of misogyny, though to a lesser degree. Good job not fucking up completely with this, Ellen!

I could spend a lot more time, just going through her strawmen comics, but this is actually not what I wanted to finish this section off with, because there's simply no point to this.
Rather, I wanted to look at how Ellen, herself, describes strawmen.
For this, we will hop onto her Reddit and look at her mentions of the word.
First is this comment.
(archive)
Strangely enough, here, she actually gets bashed for making her comic a strawman argument, including getting downvoted! Would you look at that!

Gee, I sure do wonder what the comic itself looks like!

...I will get into that, eventually.

Then, this comment.
(archive)

Yup, a strawman.

Oh hey, she doubled down on it too!

Oh heck! Now, that's what I call a red herring!
"A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion. A red herring may be used intentionally, as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g., in politics), or may be used in argumentation inadvertently.
The term was popularized in 1807 by English polemicist William Cobbett, who told a story of having used a strong-smelling smoked fish to divert and distract hounds from chasing a rabbit."

In this case, Ellen's remark is a red herring, because, whereas she is making a valid point, at least on surface, it is unrelated to the actual issue at hand, which is that the comic is a strawman, and does not mandate a separate analysis.

Then, this comment.
(archive)

This is actually unique in that Ellen acknowledges that a comic she commented under IS a strawman...and she was correct. This comic is using a strawman argument to argue that consent is not required in specific instances and asking for it would be detrimental to the situation.


Due to this, we can deduce that Ellen knows what a strawman is, can spot it when faced against it, and still chooses to use them in her comics for one reason or another, though mostly manipulation.


Then, this commen...oh dear jesus fuck.
(archive)

This is LOADED.
First of all, the comic IS a strawman!

Ellen should know about this, especially considering the amount of misandry literally oozing out of her posts.
If you still don't get why it is, Ellen is making up a strawman to show you why all men are evil and hate women. Pancreasaurus actually explains it perfectly here themselves!
Second of all, once again, a red herring. Ellen writes there that, because they have stated the comic is a strawman and is a made up scenario, that they automatically must discount the fact that this happens any time ever at all. Sure, women get abused all the time, but what does that have to do with the fact that the comic itself depicts a made up scenario?
Third, Ellen claims that her comic doesn't need to be based on real events, since it's clearly "humor" and "other people relate to it"...a bandwagon fallacy.
Another example of it here.
(archive)

Also here, on her Threads.
(archive)

Just like with a few other cases like this I have depicted prior, Ellen believes that, if something of hers becomes popular, it is automatically correct. Some adults believe Santa doesn't exist, doesn't make them any less stupid.

Next comment,
(archive)
Ellen comments "now watch the dumb stupid conservatives invade this comic saying this is a strawman like morons"...under a strawman.

Yeah, no, I'm not a conservative and I can still tell this is a strawman.

The final one on her Reddit is this one, under her...well, a strawman.
(archive)

No, Ellen, calling a strawman a strawman is not a sign I don't like something, or that I don't understand what you mean.
It'd be like me showing you this picture of sheep, me saying "This is a picture of sheep", then you going "Omg the amount of people who don't understand this and just call everything they don't like a sheep lol".

Then again, I could also say this is a very good picture of your followerbase.

She also made two comments about that on her Threads.
First,
(archive)

Yeah, it's very easy define a strawman if you make up the definition completely and ignore what it actually means. That'd, however, require either sheer stupidity, or intentionally missing the point.
Second,
(archive)

One, you chose to post this on your page, and you chose to have people respond to it.
Second...strawman. It's an oversimplification of the subject, reducing the two political sides to the roles of good and bad guys. The truth is, both sides are correct in some regards. The right is taking away rights from underpriveledged people and it is destroying our climate, and the left is very weird about introducing new laws and mandates, pushing revolutionary laws in a system that's unprepared for it, and also being too passive. Then again, that is still reducing two sides to just one, shared, view, which is obviously not the case.
This is pure ragebait...and also false dichotomy.

"A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy or false binary, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise. This premise has the form of a disjunctive claim: it asserts that one among a number of alternatives must be true. This disjunction is problematic because it oversimplifies the choice by excluding viable alternatives, presenting the viewer with only two absolute choices when, in fact, there could be many.
False dilemmas often have the form of treating two contraries, which may both be false, as contradictories, of which one is necessarily true. Various inferential schemes are associated with false dilemmas, for example, the constructive dilemma, the destructive dilemma or the disjunctive syllogism. False dilemmas are usually discussed in terms of deductive arguments, but they can also occur as defeasible arguments.
The human liability to commit false dilemmas may be due to the tendency to simplify reality by ordering it through either-or-statements, which is to some extent already built into human language. This may also be connected to the tendency to insist on clear distinction while denying the vagueness of many common expressions."

Now, this brings me onto something very related to the two above points that will also come up throrought my next points.

Spoiler: Ragebaiting

From Wikipedia,

In internet slang, rage-baiting (also ragebaiting or rage-farming) is the manipulative tactic of eliciting outrage with the goal of increasing internet traffic, online engagement, revenue and support. Rage baiting or farming can be used as a tool to increase engagement, attract subscribers, followers, and supporters, which can be financially lucrative. Rage baiting and rage farming manipulates users to respond in kind to offensive, inflammatory headlines, memes, tropes, or comments.

Rage-farming, which has been cited since at least January 2022, is an offshoot of rage-baiting where the outrage of the person being provoked is farmed or manipulated into an online engagement by rage-seeding that helps amplify the message of the original content creator. It has also been used as a political tactic at the expense of one's opponent.

Ragebait is, therefore, low effort content, meant to elicit a very specific response from people (usually anger) in order to boost your views. In Ellen's instance, also lead white, single men to her Patreon, which, need I remind you, the link to is right on her front page of her Threads, and in the footer of almost every single comic she has ever made.

I have made a post about that before, actually.
All of her Threads activity is one big ragebait. Hell, as I brought up before, she has an obvious once-per-day ragebait post uploaded there every day!
Why is this deception, and not stuff like anger?
As seen in the strawman section, but also will be immediately obvious once we get to the "feelings of contempt" section, she does not believe in anything she posts. Therefore, she is posting this solely for views. She's lying about her own beliefs in order to fuel the fire that will attract gooners to her porn sites, like a moth to a flame. She also just, to put it simply, uses this to get off, as she craves attention.

Since I don't think I need to say anything more on the matter individually, I will just continue going over the various deception tactics she uses in order to make those ragebait posts work.

Spoiler: Other deception methods Ellen uses

First, shifting the goalposts.
From Wikipedia,

Moving the goalposts (or shifting the goalposts) is a metaphor, derived from goal-based sports such as football and hockey, that means to change the rule or criterion ("goal") of a process or competition while it is still in progress, in such a way that the new goal offers one side an advantage or disadvantage.

Shifting the goalpost is a fallacy where one side changes their stance on the subject during the course of the argument in response to the other side debunking it.
The most literal example of it happened very recently, when Ellen was asked about her vote manipulation on one of her meta comics.
Her response?
(archive)

First, pretend that this is due to a bug, then reply to another user, talking about how another person does it worse, to say "Yeah! They do it worse! And they're a man! I cannot be blamed for it!"
In this case, Ellen saw that she couldn't deny vote manipulation (which I will touch upon later), so she instead shifted the goalposts and blamed another person for doing it a lot more blatantly.

Another is the everchanging excuse for why the hater comic does not depict rape.
Seven months ago, her excuse was "I am so sorry my comic was interpreted as rape, I should have thought about it more, but, hey, no onecomplained, and Patreon removed the work, so it's okay".
(archive)

Three months ago?
She outright states the comic was always meant to be kinky/consensual fun, and outright denies the Patreon banned that work.
(archive)

Umm...
HELLO?
(archive)

Besides, if the work wasn't removed, I'd have a lot less trouble finding it on Patreon now, wouldn't I?


The other big one on display here is the "us vs them" mentality, which I have discussed before in some detail.
In short, it's a belief that Ellen and her fans (us) and her haters, trolls and MAGA's (them) are engaged in a constant war, a war in which there is no grey morality, no nuances, nothing. Just an all out war.
See, this will actually become a lot more relevant later, in the irritability and anger section, but a very easy way to gain support is to make an enemy, then blame everything that happens on that enemy.
This is the way of thinking that allows you to, for instance, spend your whole honeymoon attacking "nazis" on r/doomercirclejerk and spend half of your wedding announcement post on attacking the snark subreddit.


Then, circular reasoning, which I have actually made a post on before.

Wait, hold on a second.
I've been looking at the comments under the Trump sucking off Putin repost more closely, more specifically, Ellen's defense, and I've noticed something...
(archive)

So...if I am reading this correctly, the joke is not about "haha gay bad" because it's about submissiveness, but when she gets asked about how sucking cock is not a submissive act, she replies that it's neither of them being gay that makes it submissive.

So, in other words, this is not a gay joke because it's a submisiveness joke, but it's also not a submisiveness joke because it's a gay joke.

Uhhhh....how do I tell you this, Ellen...
This is the encyclopedic example of circular reasoning.


In other words, Ellen thinks being gay is a joke, while being a lesbian/bi/trans is cool.

If I find any more good examples of fallacies on display, I will add up onto this section in the future. For now, though, know that, using these tactics, Ellen is able to, albeit not really, convince people of her rightousness and defend herself against anything.
Let's take a practical example then, shall we?

That's the end of part 3. Part 4 will resolve the discussion on Ellen's deception, this time focusing on Ellen's plagiarism and the contant game of playing the victim.

 

[Some dude]

I, for one, am happy to reply so you can post part 4. We have the best autists, even if they're a little insane.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

I, for one, am happy to reply so you can post part 4. We have the best autists, even if they're a little insane.

Heh, thanks for that, but I don't have the part 4 ready yet. You gotta rest sometime.
In the meantime, another youtuber has made an Ellen video, and i found that her observations are actually very good.

Also, despite teasing a Christmas miracle, Ellen has failed to deliver, even on her Patreon.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

I like this comic because Ellen accidentally reveals she knows her batshit NPD behavior continues a cycle of societal abuse, but she'll never admit to it consciously because then she might be responsible for stopping the cycle.

 

[malformed bricks]

249 pages of thread later and i can still not comprehend why this woman has such a fixation on rape

 

[RazorBackBacon]

249 pages of thread later and i can still not comprehend why this woman has such a fixation on rape

Early porn exposure as a pre-teen, way to reclaim power after sexual trauma, expression of a sadistic need to control and hurt people, bargain-basement goonery? Take your pick.

 

[malformed bricks]

Early porn exposure as a pre-teen, way to reclaim power after sexual trauma, expression of a sadistic need to control and hurt people, bargain-basement goonery? Take your pick.

one, i'm stealing the phrase "bargain-basement goonery". two, all of them fit.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

249 pages of thread later and i can still not comprehend why this woman has such a fixation on rape

Literally the first post on this page, I explain why she has such a fixation on rape.

TLDR - sexual abuse as a minor

 

[malformed bricks]

Literally the first post on this page, I explain why she has such a fixation on rape.

TLDR - sexual abuse as a minor

i somehow missed it, i take the L

also good work, i'm reading through it and yeah that explains a lot

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

i somehow missed it, i take the L

also good work, i'm reading through it and yeah that explains a lot

No offense taken.
I know my walls are killers to the unprepared, but that's because I want to be fully comprehensive and explain my points perfectly.
Glad you're enjoying it.

 

[malformed bricks]

No offense taken.
I know my walls are killers to the unprepared, but that's because I want to be fully comprehensive and explain my points perfectly.
Glad you're enjoying it.

you would think this woman would be seeing a therapist or psychiatrist on the regular to deal with her trauma of being a sexual abuse survivor rather than accumulating a digital footprint the size of a solar mass but here we are

 

[cremechocolate]

Ellen seemingly making up wildly different images of herself, depending on the social media site you look at her content on.

Code-switching?

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Code-switching?

I mean...sorta?
Albeit the term is mostly used for linguistics and not psychology.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I mean...sorta?
Albeit the term is mostly used for linguistics and not psychology.

Have you tried just doing a YouTube/Bitchute video series so the character limit isn’t an issue?

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Have you tried just doing a YouTube/Bitchute video series so the character limit isn’t an issue?

Short answer, have you seen the type of content I cover in here? Youtube would not allow it, and Ellen would just DMCA it.

Long answer? I tried, but I suck at video editing, making scripts for videos, have a shitty voice, and I don't think this kind of content would make for a great video, specifically.

 

[Run Escape]

249 pages of thread later and i can still not comprehend why this woman has such a fixation on rape

It's a woman thing.

 

[harbringer883]

249 pages of thread later and i can still not comprehend why this woman has such a fixation on rape

The modern world and it's consequences.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Alright, I was actually working on part 4, and I went over part 3 again to check for spellchecks and such, when I noticed something...




...I am afraid I will have to amend my Deviancy subsection with an additional section. I did want to touch up on endangering minors later, but this specific instance warrants a section there.
Part 2,5. here we go!

Spoiler: Underage girl cosplays...and porn drawings (oh dear fuck, why did I have to realise that)

So...as I have discovered by going through her cosplays more closely, something I haven't actually done before, out of my sheer disgust...I realised that the vast majority of the women Ellen cosplays as are around the age of 16.
Due to this fact, I will not be providing you any nudes, but instead pick the lightest possible image possible, accompanied via the neccessary archives for all available tiers. The least you see them, the better.
The least egregious one is Ash Ketchum (age 10, as stated throrought all of the anime).
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)

I'll give this one a pass, for the sole reason of this not really being a porn shoot.

Next are Spider Gwen and Spider-Girl.

First, Spider-Girl.
(link)
(archive)
(kemono)

If we take her to be Mayday Parker, as that's the most likely by the costume...then the case is extremely clear.


Then, Spider Gwen.
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2)

In the first Spiderverse movie, Gwen Stacy is fifteen months older than Miles Morales, who's a sophomore, so around 14.
This makes her between 15 and 16. 'nuff said.

Then, Starfire and Raven.
Raven first.
(link 1) (link 2)
(archive 1) (archive 2)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3)

Then, Starfire.
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3) (coomer)

This is also the cosplay she used in a now deleted Threads post, bodyshaming Meghan Trainor. More on that in the bodyshaming section way later on.

Now, the age of them isn't really given in the comics or the TV series. It's all speculative....well, except this one small detail...
THEY'RE A PART OF A GROUP LITERLALY CALLED "TEEN TITANS"!


I sure do wonder why she associates herself so much more with Starfire tho-oh.

Oh well. Moving on.

Then, Daphne and Velma.
These are interesting, as they were uploaded in the midst of the rape comic incident. Daphne cosplay ended at xtra and had its bonus tier uploaded to Onlyfans instead, whereas Velma was the first cosplay she uploaded after returning to Patreon.

Spoiler: NSFW (thumbnails only)

Daphne first.
...

See, for most other cosplay teases, Ellen would draw herself as the character she's cosplaying, like with the Spider Gwen and Daria (with Daria, it's debatable, but she actually sorta looks like that in real life).

Daphne, however?
...it pains me to have to do this, but I must put the drawing of her behind a NSFW tag.
(archive)
(kemono)

Spoiler: NSFW

Yeah, she actually drew porn of a minor. I'll get to it in a bit, after the actual cosplays.
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (coomer)

Now, Velma.
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3) (coomer)

See, it's kind of a big deal in the show that the Mystery Inc. is comprised of kids.
Hell, the most recognisable line from the show (albeit misremembered), goes
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for those meddling kids!"
The Velma show, being a backstory series, and what likely inspired Ellen to make those cosplays, has them even younger than most depictions, placing them at around 16.

So she not only cosplayed both of the underage female main cast members, but she also drew porn of one of them...yeah...
Mind you, this was right before the hater comic incident, where many of Ellen's works were deleted, and this one was somehow not...yeah...
And if you say that is not porn...Ellen had this shit on her xtra tier as the most sexual drawing of her by that point.
(archive)
(kemono)

Spoiler: NSFW

As you can see, it has WAY less of her ass exposed than the Daphne drawing.

The last one, though it's gonna be kinda hard to top what we just saw...
Daria Morgendorffer.
(link 1) (link 2) (link 3) (link 4)
(archive 1) (archive 2) (archive 3) (archive 4)
(kemono 1) (kemono 2) (kemono 3) (coomer)

In her own show, Daria starts the series at the age of 16 and ends at around 17-18.


...alright, so, as it turns out, most of Ellen's fictional characters she cosplays are around 16 in the source material she bases them on.
Now, since we all know by now that Ellen's porn is self serving and catered to her own sexual fantasies...what could possibly be the reason for Ellen's obsession with sexually cosplaying character this a-


Oh.
Oh, that explains everything.
What else will you tell me, that Ellen is into underage boy-






NOPE, NOPE, I AM NOT GOING THERE, I AM NOT!
AND PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT GET HORNY FOR YOUR KIDS! I DON'T NEED TO HAVE A SECOND LOLCOW I FOLLOW END UP IN PRISON FOR INCEST!

TLDR since I want people to actually see this - Most of Ellen's fictional character cosplays are based on underage characters in their source material. One of the cosplays was accompanied by a porn drawing of one of those characters, in other words, underage porn.

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

@BasedIfTrue You better write a huge video about this because this could change the way we see Pizzacake Comics forever.