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Writing for Wccfkek is supposed to be a humiliation ritual; it is the natural order of things.
GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.
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comments are funny though.
this is peak soy, i would buy shit from micron if they made it lower than whatever the price was 1 year ago, i am not as gay as these people to be spiteful at a company that literally told the regular consumers to eat shit, but if i am to do business with them they better make a damn good offer as i am look for kingstom sticks, they weren't stupid to say shit to consumers so they are enjoying the money from both consumer fields.
all in all, SUFFAH MICRON.
at least you are finding sticks, all of the compatible ones for my mobo are fucking gone and memory4less doesn't really mention international shipping, even then... 92% tax.
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I think Micron will stay out of consumer market for the foreseeable future, they do just fine selling their COMMODITY to other companies. They keep out of it, and they don't have to worry about pesky things like warranties and customer service.
Some of the retards in vomment sections actually claimed they would avoid the Micron chips themselves, even in other brands.
MLID had the nuance level 100 takes on Micron: https://youtu.be/qtQzR4ASkW8?t=413
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I mean, sorry to keep it 
as the melanated urban youth say but...
Who's buying RAM in 2026? There's no CPU or GPU upgrades this year, DDR5 was introduced 5 years ago, and there was little reason to wait when shit was already cheap last year.
It's not like a new product has come out that you can't get because it's unavailable - this is shit that everyone who's into PC gaming should have either bought or resolved to skip sometime in the past decade.
as the melanated urban youth say but...Who's buying RAM in 2026? There's no CPU or GPU upgrades this year, DDR5 was introduced 5 years ago, and there was little reason to wait when shit was already cheap last year.
It's not like a new product has come out that you can't get because it's unavailable - this is shit that everyone who's into PC gaming should have either bought or resolved to skip sometime in the past decade.
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ECC UDIMMs are a rare breed since neither consoomers nor datacenters want them. In case it helps, I bought the 8 GB, 2133 Mhz Samsung sticks (M391A1G43EB1-CPB) which retail at around $50 per piece so a decent deal IMHO. Since ECC compatibility on motherboards is generally unofficial and spotty, be sure to check with other users, your computer may not post at all, it may need a bios update and configuration to activate error reporting or it may post without error reporting. I found this thread to be particularly useful.
Mine is neither a gaming pc nor an upgrade. I'm not waiting for a year or two for prices to come down just to finish my NAS.I mean, sorry to keep it
Who's buying RAM in 2026? There's no CPU or GPU upgrades this year, DDR5 was introduced 5 years ago, and there was little reason to wait when shit was already cheap last year.
It's not like a new product has come out that you can't get because it's unavailable - this is shit that everyone who's into PC gaming should have either bought or resolved to skip sometime in the past decade.
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i know of these issues already but in my country all they have to offer is some 3200 udimm that my motherboard doesn't seem to support at all even if uses a similar serial, KSM32ES8/8HD, even though the official support for my mobo is the KSM26ES8/8HD and i can't find for the life of me in here, only on international sites as the local one i found the guy kind of forgot to update the website to say he was out of stock, sure i got my refund but i'm still shit out of luck for ram, one thing it's really hammering my patience is fucking troongle giving me similar results, whenever i look for a KSM26ES8/8MR, fuckers recommend me a KVR26N19S8/8 which is not ECC, like MOTHERFUCKER I AM LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC SERIAL FOR A REASON, QUIT WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT.
i got lucky to get a promo and got me a WD40EFPX for like half of what you can usually find (not refurbished before anyone asks), bretty good but the problem is the memory sticks.
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I've got tons of DDR4 and old Intel systems, and I'm going to give away an AM4 system. I grabbed a cheap i3-1315U laptop with an empty slot and upgraded that to 16 GB with DDR4 SODIMM that had been sitting around for years. My primary system has 64 GB of DDR4.
The DDR5 crysis will probably be resolved by 2027-2028. Zen 6 and allegedly Zen 7 will launch on AM5, making that platform unavoidable for the next few years. You could wait and jump in on cheap bundles that become available, as they always eventually do. Standard/X3D chips should get two consecutive increases of cores and L3 cache, so even budget 9600X successors will be stupendously fast. On the Intel side, I would ignore Arrow Lake unless a cute prebuilt gets clearanced at Walmart. Nova Lake-S looks very interesting with AVX-512 (AVX10), APX, up to double the cores plus LPE cores, what I assume is an improved iGPU (up to 2 Xe3-LPG cores, instead of 4 Xe1-LPG), a vastly improved 74 TOPS NPU, and possible bLLC SKUs as an X3D competitor. It probably adds VVC hardware decode, which may be relevant to somebody's HTPC eventually.
Maybe we'll see a reintroduction of the 5700X3D and/or RTX 3060 12 GB for 2026 poverty builds. I wouldn't count on it, but it's not impossible:
New Ryzen CPUs for AM4 may be back on the menu as AMD considers reintroducing select SKUs
Rumor: Nvidia Is Bringing RTX 3060 Back From the Dead Amid Memory Shortage
CEO Jensen Huang says Nvidia could potentially resurrect old GPUs to address shortages and high pricing — adding performance-boosting advanced AI features to older architectures is also on the table
In 2027-2028, I'll keep my eyes out for a good low profile 75W card I can stick in any of my old office systems. AMD, Intel, and Nvidia aren't really addressing the segment, with the exception of the Arc Pro B50, and an OEM-only RX 7400. I might look into getting more cheap crap that I don't need, like a Wildcat Lake box. If I build/buy a serious system from 2028-2032, I'm looking for it to be small form factor, relatively low power, have more RAM than I have now, and probably suitable for local AI. So either any small parts (possibly an MODT board) thrown into an Mini-ITX case with 128-192 GB of what we would hope would be dirt cheap DDR5 by then. Or one of the quad-channel soldered AI boxes.
If you really wanted to build with DDR5 in 2026, you could get 16 GB with the intention of upgrading it later. It's around 200-230 USD for 2x8GB. Or shell out the money for 32 GB, which does get a little cheaper in some bundles. Or wait it out and hope for prices to come down.
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Digital foundry put out a video with benchmarks for the new panther lake chips compared to Strix Point and Halo and also compared to the RX6600 and 3050.
If the price isn’t absurd like the strix halo is, could actually be great value.
If the price isn’t absurd like the strix halo is, could actually be great value.
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At least one laptop with the full 12 Xe3 Panther Lake graphics has been listed at $1,300: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._flip_ai_d3mtg_001us_prestige_14_flip_ai.html
That could be countered by AMD's Ryzen AI Max 388/392+, 8 or 12 cores with full 40 CUs. Or 385/390 with 32 CUs on sale.
RTX 5050 and 5060 laptops are already coming in below $1,000 and $1,300, so Panther Lake is probably not a great value unless there's a VRAM problem at 1080p:
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Ironically my new system I built in December is running on Crucial DDR5 because it was literally the only thing I could get for under $300, and one of my NVME's is a Crucial drive because it was on sale. What sucks is the engineers at Micron/Crucial make good consumer products and in my history of building computers, always have. I've always liked the sleek minimalist look of Crucial kits over Corsair Vengeance RGB lightshow bullshit.
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I've usually gone for the non-RGB versions of G.Skill DIMMs. RGB RAM was probably the silliest fucking thing to put RGB on.
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I already said it didn't happen and that I conceded! I was wrong! The video edited itself!
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Both of those exists.
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Both of these exist and both of them prove to SUCK!!
The ability to travel to a virtual venice is cheapened when you can travel anywhere virtually and there is no novelty or exclusivity to it. You cant even tell anyone about it because no one cares.
Also during covid we found out pretty quickly that with all the advancements no one wants to be in a headset for more than 30 minutes at a time because it feels like sitting close to the TV as a kid.
High quality virtual scans are mainly used in VR for digital twin training simulation and as a high-income real estate gimmick. Otherwise, until the headsets can feel weightless on your head it will best be suited for short-form game experiences like gorilla tag or among us vr.
The real shame is Meta doesnt do a good job moderating low effort content so all you see on there is “MonkeyChase” and “Ape Pursuit VR” on their store.
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I think they need to start using varifocal lenses/displays to start to counter these effects. Which AFAIK adds MOVING PARTS to the headset.
Making it extremely compact and "weightless" like sunglasses could also help. I don't know if that means they have to pack in some kind of metalenses (no pun intended) or beam lasers into your retinas, but it ain't coming soon.
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The issue with panther lake is that there are very few pcie lanes for a dgpu in the configurations everyone wants. so while it is faster than the 890m, you wont have that extra power at your disposal when plugged in that you'd have with a dgpu. This limits it to expensive thin and lights and compromised laptop form factors like 2 in 1s. Because why would any sane person pay 1300+ for an rtx 4050 equivalent laptop with worse driver and feature support for anything other than battery life., that you wont be getting because you only get that performance at 60w. And thin and lights have dgpus they just turn them off when your on battery.
They really thought 1300$+ for an rtx 4050 equivalent laptop in 2026 would be appealing to anyone other than enthusiasts who are curious about the technology. It's the same problem with strix halo but at least they were open about it being mainly an ai thing. Why pay so much for so little performance.
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There's three variants of Panther Lake:
4+8+4+12Xe
4+8+4+4Xe
4+0+4+4Xe
The middle one with all the E-cores but less graphics has more I/O, since it would be intended to be paired with dGPUs.
I think the bottom config also has nerfed PCIe lanes, not sure. Very few people would want both the big boy iGPU and a dGPU in the same laptop.
$1,300 doesn't strike me as a particularly high starting price for something that should be about equal or superior to Strix Point in every aspect (particularly graphics, efficiency, and battery life). Strix Point laptops are on sale after having been on the market for a while, and they still cost like $900.
But it's still going to be a worse value (e.g. FPS/$) than laptops with RTX 5060 in them. Should be much better gaming on battery though.
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IME they still draw power and kill your battery life. I have also gotten screwed plenty of times when some web page decided to use the dGPU when plugged in, because if it's in use, it won't disable when on battery, even when it's a background process. Add in the laptop's frequent refusal to go into sleep mode when shut, and it's been an absolute dog on the battery.
I've got bad news if you're looking for a touchbook for less than $1300.
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By the time panther lake is released for consumers strix point will be discounted further. and I don't believe its going to be worth while at 5-600$ more than the amd counterpart.
That is fair although the trade off is worth it imo because the hit to battery life isn't too massive (based on a g14) and any issues with switching are dependent on the OEM.
I don't get why they are going hard on the gaming angle, talk about thew improved CPU performance, the efficiency gains, etc. If i want to game ill just buy a 700 rtx 4060 laptop with a zen 4/ lunar lake processor . Ill get a better gaming experience, save some money and still get most of the battery life and usability
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