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This is a consistent thing with George. Dying of the Light, Song for Lya, Under Siege- all involve cuckoldry because George himself is one. He can't hold onto women because he's a dumb Hippie who took the Male Feminist pill
You're giving him too much credit, he was always like that and I don't think he is inherently that different from people like Shadiversity who is on another side a right-wing mormon who wrote a book about his self-insert serial murderer rapist OC who has totally changed his ways guyz. He's just a degenerate who is obsessed with clout and leeches off his immediate surroundings, living in echo-chamber and parroting only views of a very narrow clique of people who he interacts with irl.

GRRM got cucked by his best friend in college with his ex-girlfriend wanting them all to still remain as friends which mindfucked the fat fuck for life and he kept using her name Lysa in nearly all the books he wrote.

I think most telling book he wrote is Meathouse Man, made 50 years ago when he was still in his 20s, which is about a nice guy who does science-necromancy and tries to find a boyfriend-free girl but is rebuked and becomes supreme gentleman fucking corpses of women to show them who is the boss or something.
I see what you're saying, but consider: Is that really worse than admitting you can't finish one book in fourteen years because of Donald Trump's fascism o algo?
Yes. GRRM is pathetic waste of air, but he isn't worse than a near certain pedophile who draws detailed manga about children getting raped and tortured. GRRM's politisperging just makes him sound like a complete retard, but not that much of an actual threat besides his books being a threat to decency.

I think your pro-Trump bias are clouding your judgement here a bit. Being retarded about politics is not really that harmful in the wide picture of things. BTW I say this as a long time fan of ASOIAF books and near as long time alog of GRRM. I could post more examples of GRRM's retardation but I'd rather not drag this topic for too long here.

anime niggers are literally cattle. i should be allowed to legally kill and eat you.
If you kill, cook and eat an anime nigger, you're probably gonna end up with some disease from their lack of hygiene, I'd avoid that.
 
anime niggers are literally cattle. i should be allowed to legally kill and eat you.
Of course the formerly fat guy has food on his mind. I assure you weebs have no nutritional value, don't squander your calorie budget on such lowly creatures.
Speaking of fat, I forgot to watch the latest KiwiCasino episode, thanks for the unintended reminder!
 
Is GRRM a pedophile for writing that?
No. He's a hack.
Martin is a fat fucking nihilist that middling IQ jackasses momentarily worshipped because of one episode, The Rains of Castamere which has the red wedding sequence, of a TV show based on a plodding book series that will never be done. A Song of Ice and Fire, the name of the dead, gay series the same middling IQ jackasses only knows as Game of Thrones, is the attempt of of Martin to directly refute Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. How fucking reddit is this asshole? Here's a timestamped link to an interview he did in 2019 followed by the transcribed quote.

"Tolkien, of all the authors I mentioned earlier, had an impact on me, but Tolkien is right up there at the top. I yield to no one in my admiration for The Lord of the Rings – I re-read it every few years. It’s one of the great books of the 20th century, but that doesn’t mean that I think it’s perfect. I keep wanting to argue with Professor Tolkien through the years about certain aspects of it. He did what he wanted to do very brilliantly, I’ve said this before, but I look at the end and it says, uh, Aragorn is the king and he says, ‘And Aragorn ruled wisely and well for 100 years’ or something. It’s easy to write that sentence, he ruled wisely and well, but I want to know what was his tax policy?

*audience laughter*

And what did he do when famine struck the land? And what did he do with all those Orcs? A lot of Orcs left over.

*more audience laughter*

They weren’t all killed, they ran away into the mountains. Sauron fell down, but you see all the Orcs running away. Did Aragorn carry out a policy of systematic Orc genocide?

*more audience laughter*

Did he send his knights out into the hills to kill all the Orcs? Even the little baby Orcs? Or was there Orc rehabilitation going on?

*audience laughs once again*

Trying to teach the Orcs to be good citizens? And if the Orcs were the result of Elves… could Orcs and Elves intermarry? They can in Dungeons and Dragons I guess I don't know I've never played it.”

This is the level of thought behind the writing that middling IQ jackasses are enraptured with and I say writing when I really mean the HBO show. Im-fucking-magine reading all of LotRs, and doing it every few years, and coming away with this. "I love Tolkien so much more than anyone else in the world but he's a bit of a tard and I can do better." I would argue that A Song of Ice and Fire, remember that the first book came out in 1996, was the last great push of actually creating something with the intention to replace the great works that preceded it before it became far more cost effective and efficient to simply bastardize and remake the original (black Little Mermaid for example) / make a new entry in the series that changes things so dramatically that it erases what was before it with it's twisted canon (The Last Jedi for example). Fuck man, look that Amazon's Lord of Rangz. They didn't even bother to try to make something new. Like the orcs in the books, they twisted it and corrupted it until it was this perversion of what it once was.

The attempted comparison of Martin's schlock to Made In Abyss is a lazy one. I'm not even defending the creepier aspects of MiA like the scatalogical shit. What I'm saying is the horror and suffering in MiA makes sense insofar as that it is the logical conclusion to a child believing that she somehow has the moxy and a literal super power against the power of the abyss to make it all the way to the bottom only to have her shit kicked in because fucking duh. Martin almost takes a glee in the amount and detail of the horror and suffering in his books. This is especially true of the Starks who are the de facto "good guys" in Martin's super edgy, it's not a phase mom, world of "morally grey" Westeros/shitty grimdark Middle Earth.

Even talking about sex between the two is lazy. The amount of what could be even considered sex in MiA is the main character being forced to strip as a punishment, a joke about breaking a broom handle in the robot boy's butt, and later the two of them bathing together while on their journey where the main character is too young to even fathom the issue with her bathing with a boy and because I have to say it no I'm not defending that either. I'm comparing it to Martin's weirdo sex sex shit which is straight up sex and sometimes flat out rape. For example, the shit with Daenerys Targaryen happens in the first Goddamned book where her introduction is her being sold off to shitty grimdark Mongols, her handmaidens putting perfume on her labia (something Marin draws our attention to by writing it out), her recounting all the times her Khan husband takes her from behind and only from behind as is shitty grimdark Mongol custom, and her finding her inner goddess when one of her handmaidens tells her that she has an inner strength and SHE needs to ride her Khan husband instead of him banging her from behind. That sounds like a joke, doesn't it? Danny's first real bit of character development, she's 14 just to remind you, is realizing that you can just do things like fuck your Steppes nigga cowgirl style. Let's not forget that after her hubby dies and she's on her journey to build an army to take back her throne, it's a few years since she unleashed her inner cowgirl goddess, there's a scene where one of her maidens finger blasts her during the night because she misses her dead hubby that much.

I say he's a hack and not a pedophile because he has this autistic level of detail with a lot of his sex shit because he is a hack. Titillation and violence sells very easily and he has that by the fucking bucket not just to sell to retards but as a fuck you to Tolkien. You need to remember the reason A Song of Ice and Fire exists as a fat fuck nihilist's response to Lord of the Rings. Aragorn wouldn't be faithful to his elven bride if this was real life because real life kings like to fuck, man! That's so bogus and not far out, man! George creates this ugly, miserable world filled with depravity and feels the need to describe it all because this is a GROUNDED story that's set in the REAL world, man! The closest you're gonna get to beauty in this realistic world, man, is not true friendship like Sam and Frodo had! It's a teenage waitress with a mouth full of busted teeth getting fucked by reformed Jaymie Lanister's (the incestuous attempted child murder with the title of King Slayer was actually a good guy all along! Expectation status: Subverted!) teenage page because teenagers like to fuck, man, and it's young and innocent, dooooooood!

The issues with MiA have been hashed and rehashed again and again in this thread alone but to compare the offense to the content that with the offense from Martin's work, which is offensive to be offensive purely because he believes Tolkien was inoffensive and he wants to show that fucker up with REAL WRITING, is just lazy.
 
Hey, don't be rude
Hey man I'm not calling you a deranged freak because you enjoy reading about a dwarf having sex with a bunch of whores white his two siblings bone each other and children get married and raped. I'm just saying it's a dogshit series that will never surpass LotR. Or even get finished, for that matter.

Consider:
https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1831714435549057245

Here's what Song of Ice and Fire actually wants to be, and why George can't finish it.

The Song of Ice and Fire isn't actually supposed to be dark, Machiavellian, hopeless, or a subversion of Tolkien at all.

It's just supposed to start that way.

The details may be complex, but the formula is simple. Low-fantasy version of the British Isles, torn apart by multi-sided Machiavellian power struggle, loosely based on the War of the Roses.

Things are bad because of Machiavellian power struggle.

In the background, subtle hints of external, magical, otherworldly threat. Warring factions scoff and ignore it as first. Enter the high-fantasy tropes; prophesied hero emerges to unite the morally-grey factions into an unambiguously-good pro-civilization force to confront and defeat the unambiguously-evil threat to all life.

Full transition, in the end, to epic Tolkienesque high fantasy, played straight rather than subverted.

Heroism triumphant, humanity triumphant, realm unified in peace and prosperity.

Roll credits.

Were the story to be completed thus, completed as it wants to be completed, as it yearns to be completed, every dark, gritty, Machiavellian moment would be fully justified.

Every chapter and scene filled with thugs and villains and no heroes at all would be fully justified.

Because they would merely serve to emphasize the rarity of heroes, and the need for them.

Because they would make the arrival of a true hero that much more satisfying when, late but not too late, he arrived.

ASOIAF doesn't really want to be a subversion of Tolkien at all. It wants to be a path out of darkness and into light. It wants to be a study in how Tolkien is deeply relevant, even to a gritty, morally grey world.

This is what George knows it needs to be.

But George cannot write it.

Why?

Because he's a socialist. And a boomer.

Socialism's motivational core is envy, and its one underlying rule is "thou shalt not be better than me".

The boomer's single guiding principle is "whatever makes me feel pleasure right now is good, and whatever makes me feel bad right now is evil".

Take these together, and you get someone who has a real problem with heroes. Heroes are, by definition, the best of us, at least on some dimension, and if your underlying motivation is envy, standing next to one is gonna make you feel bad.

This means that socialists, boomers, and socialist boomers tend not to want to believe in heroes and heroism.

They want to convince themselves that anything which appears good is secretly evil, actually, and that anyone who makes them feel or look bad is obviously evil because reasons.

So when they see a hero, they tend to call him a fascist.

(Of course, when they see a fascist, they also call him a fascist, but that's just coincidence, because they'll call anything fascist... random passers-by, buildings, rocks, trees, squirrels, anything.)

Because they want to feel morally superior to him.

The only way they can admit that someone has a moral compass at all is if they can feel superior to him in some other way, usually by portraying them as naive, and hence doomed to failure because he is not empowered by cynicism and selfishness, to pursue the most efficient path to... whatever.

So if ol'George thinks that everyone who appears good is either secretly evil, or openly stupid, then writing a character with heroic impulses is gonna be tough, and writing about how they succeed... impossible.

This is why George can write characters with noble motives (Jon Snow, Eddard Stark, etc), but he keeps making them fail.

You see, in George's world, heroism must be a sham or a weakness, because then George's own bad character is wisdom and enlightenment, instead of just lack of moral virtue.

If heroes are all frauds or suckers, then George is being smart, because he has seen through the whole heroism thing.

If heroes are real, and they do sometimes succeed, and they do make the world better for everyone, then George is just a fat, lazy, cynical old man who doesn't wanna finish his art for the sake of art or integrity, because he only ever wanted money, and now he has more than he knows what to do with.

In order to finish the story, George would need to have an awakening of virtue.

He would first have to develop a sense of integrity — a desire to fulfill his promises, even when no one can or will punish him for not doing so.

He would then have to develop a sense of humility — because to write a better person than he is, he would have to admit to himself that there is such a thing, that people can be better, and that trying to be better is an actual worthy goal, not just the act of falling for a con game run to control you.

The longer someone goes without admitting to their faults, the harder those faults are to admit to, because they have been more deeply invested in.

And this means he would also have to develop the courage to admit to himself that he is, in fact, a fat lazy cynical old coward, and that Tolkien, whom he envies and despises, was the far better man all along.
They weren’t all killed, they ran away into the mountains. Sauron fell down, but you see all the Orcs running away. Did Aragorn carry out a policy of systematic Orc genocide?

*more audience laughter*

Did he send his knights out into the hills to kill all the Orcs? Even the little baby Orcs? Or was there Orc rehabilitation going on?

*audience laughs once again*

Trying to teach the Orcs to be good citizens? And if the Orcs were the result of Elves… could Orcs and Elves intermarry? They can in Dungeons and Dragons I guess I don't know I've never played it.”
This is so fucking reddit, it's unbelievable. Everyone with a passing interest in Tolkien knows that Orcs are literally evil personified. They're corrupted Elves, made that way by the in-universe Satan, known as Morgoth. This is because Tolkien was a catholic, and thus believed that evil cannot create, it can only corrupt that which is already good. They were formed out of dark magic to be war loving brutes that have no need for society, only slavery and killing. This is another reason why the Rings of Power is retarded, because the showrunners thought it would be a good idea to introduce Orc families, completely fabricated with no respect for Tolkien's work at all.

Redditors love morally grey bullshit where nobody is right.
It's just like real life!!!! kys

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Along with that British guy Josh talked about on stream... Yep, they really just do not make em like they used to.
 
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The issues with MiA have been hashed and rehashed again and again in this thread alone but to compare the offense to the content that with the offense from Martin's work, which is offensive to be offensive purely because he believes Tolkien was inoffensive and he wants to show that fucker up with REAL WRITING, is just lazy.
Honestly man all this has gone so far from anything I was trying to get at that I don't really have anything to say. The point really wasn't making direct comparisons for who's better than who, it was why people watch and like things despite the stuff they have in them. If you asked the typical person listing Made in Abyss on their like list or whatever what they were a fan of, they probably wouldn't say any number of things I won't deign to list. If you ask a normal consumer of Game of Thrones what they like about the books, they'd think you're insane if you follow that up with "oh I bet you really couldn't get enough of the detailed description of Tyrion's dwarf dong as well, huh, you midget fucker?"
So when it's asked "how can anybody like this" it's like I dunno man they just tune it out because it's not the main focus, or decide that it's supposed to be weird, and the principle of the death of the author is basically one giant gift of benefit of the doubt no matter the writer. If you want a second lazy comparison then in Harry Potter, Nearly Headless Nick shows the open wound that is his moniker to a bunch of children to explain why he's Nearly Headless. Somehow, I don't think Rowling was secretly trying to advocate for Early Gore Introduction for Children in that one off scene of the funny ghost's head flopping around.
Again this isn't advocacy for people who write suspicious stuff and are in fact writing it for ulterior motives, I'm making the claim that most people consuming media just don't consider it to be something to be pondered outside of the fictional world itself.
 
Remember that the original question was if it was necessary to show viscerally disgusting rape, mutilation, torture, and sexual sadism of child characters in a cartoon. The best comparison anime freaks can come up with is a forced marriage plotline from a television show featuring adult actresses which portrays only simulated sex acts. This is also somehow a point against women as a whole ("femmegooner foidslop tv") despite the lead writer being a fat man.
 
Hey man I'm not calling you a deranged freak because you enjoy reading about a dwarf having sex with a bunch of whores white his two siblings bone each other and children get married and raped.
I don't actuall enjoy the sexual degeneracy in the books and I generally skipped those fragments.
I'm just saying it's a dogshit series that will never surpass LotR.
No disagreement here, LotR is leagues above it.
Or even get finished, for that matter.
No disagreement here, GRRM is a fat lazy retard.
I read this pasta numerous times but I think all of this is written by someone who either didn't read the books at all or by someone who has a very rudimentary understanding of the books.

GRRM is not a nihilist, it's a common misconception exacerbated by the TV show which cut a lot from the books. He is a self-described romantic at heart - despite Ned Stark being killed for his naivety and honor, his legacy lives on and his vassals and family all are willing to fight and die for his memory. On the other hand, Tywin Lannister, the ruthless and calculating guy who is obsessed with controlling his family ends up murdered by his own son while shitting on a toilet, with his incest kids being incest freaks who ruin the realm with their retardation and their vassals fighting for scraps since they never had any loyalty for Lannisters, only fear.

I mostly agree with @Ralph Barnhardt , effortpost, GRRM's writing can be mostly described as being intentionally offensive simply because he has some retarded delusion that his own writing is better because it's supposedly more grounded and realistic. In truth, all his work can be summed up as edgy shock slop which somehow turned to be a lighting in a bottle.

One of the primary reasons why he can't finish the series is because of his "gardening writing method" which consists of making shit up in the fly and not planning ahead, putting his own heroes on journeys and writing on the go without planning how they should end up. Originally he planned a five years skip after book 3 but then changed his mind because "it wouldn't work out for some characters" which caused the massive stall because without the time skip even more plotlines don't work with how young he made all the characters.

All of his criticisms of Tolkien are extremely superficial and don't hold water when looking at his own work when he didn't describe 'tax policy' of anyone in Westeros anyway, his inability to comprehend numbers, distances, heraldry, chronology, languages and cultures. For example dothraki rape hordes consider shepherding as sign of weakness and eat horses instead; which is just absurdly retarded.
I don't think there's really that much we disagree on, we just came to the similar conclusion differently. To correct the record, I called myself a long time fan of his books because I read them over a decade ago when I was still in high school and followed them for many years. I have no illusions regarding his work and have lost any respect for grrm, became heavily critical of the books and deducted they will never be finished around the year 2016 when he had that pathetic melty on his blog crying about Blumpf, lack of motivation for writing and etc.

I think we should all just come together, ignoring our differences and unite our hate on the series for the shit it is, regardless what our reasons are. In no world grrm even comes close to scrape the dirt off the shoes of Tolkien, the undisputed Father of Fantasty.

PS. If mods think this drags for too long then delete or move my posts elsewhere.
 
Remember that the original question was if it was necessary to show viscerally disgusting rape, mutilation, torture, and sexual sadism of child characters in a cartoon. The best comparison anime freaks can come up with is a forced marriage plotline from a television show featuring adult actresses which portrays only simulated sex acts. This is also somehow a point against women as a whole ("femmegooner foidslop tv") despite the lead writer being a fat man.
How desperate are you for Radfem hole? The conversation was about the novels the fat man wrote, in which he portrays the characters as underage people for "le realism". No one is arguing that cartoon children should be depicted in that way because it's disgusting. Just like how a fat hippie writing about 14 year old girls being raped by brown men is disgusting
 
GRRM got cucked by his best friend in college with his ex-girlfriend wanting them all to still remain as friends which mindfucked the fat fuck for life and he kept using her name Lysa in nearly all the books he wrote.
Funny thing is Lysa in GoT killed her gross husband so she could sleep with some gross whoremonger.
Also GRRM dated a feminist who proceeded to come out as a lesbian. Some of the funniest shit ever.
I don't know why this is a GRRM thread now but it is funny at least.
Remember that the original question was if it was necessary to show viscerally disgusting rape, mutilation, torture, and sexual sadism of child characters in a cartoon. The best comparison anime freaks can come up with is a forced marriage plotline from a television show featuring adult actresses which portrays only simulated sex acts. This is also somehow a point against women as a whole ("femmegooner foidslop tv") despite the lead writer being a fat man.
Oh, this. Actually the anime freaks clearly aren't even secondaries or tertiaries, cuz most of the shit in ASOIAF is supposed to be interpreted as bad, and the author is constantly kicking himself for planning a 5 year skip to age characters and then not doing it.
 
How desperate are you for Radfem hole? The conversation was about the novels the fat man wrote, in which he portrays the characters as underage people for "le realism". No one is arguing that cartoon children should be depicted in that way because it's disgusting. Just like how a fat hippie writing about 14 year old girls being raped by brown men is disgusting
Are you retarded? Do you have memory issues? Go back a few pages.
 
Remember that the original question was if it was necessary to show viscerally disgusting rape, mutilation, torture, and sexual sadism of child characters in a cartoon. The best comparison anime freaks can come up with is a forced marriage plotline from a television show featuring adult actresses which portrays only simulated sex acts. This is also somehow a point against women as a whole ("femmegooner foidslop tv") despite the lead writer being a fat man.

I think we should all just come together, ignoring our differences and unite our hate on the series for the shit it is, regardless what our reasons are. In no world grrm even comes close to scrape the dirt off the shoes of Tolkien, the undisputed Father of Fantasty.

I think I may be retarded in a weirdly different way than most poosters here because I can't for the life of me see the last few pages of sperging about GRRM as an argument or disagreement about anything. I don't see it as people arguing that MIA isn't bad. I just see it as yeah, MIA is bad, but GOT is also bad. They're both bad, here are a bunch of ways they're bad. It's not a competition of my guy is worse than your guy, just a good ol tistic sperging about why x guy is bad. I just appreciate all the GRRM alogging as I am both a fan and hater.
 
I've never watched a single episode of GoT or anything related to it, so if you're hoping for me to put up a greater defense for it I'm afraid that's not going to happen.
 
What the fuck have you been eating.

Ice?

I am running 1300 calorie deficit per day and I am only shedding 2 pounds a week. Pretty gay.
My biggest issue was over eating, I figured at the time I'd stretched my stomach so much that I couldn't feel full. The first week was a fast, so last meal on Sunday evening and then nothing but water and some fiber supplements. Ate the following Friday and had an egg to get my body used to food again. When I was eating I restricted myself to 500 calories a day, and thought concentrating all 500 calories into a single meal would be more pleasurable than snacking, and I'd probably mindlessly snack over my limit. Progresso makes cans of soup that are filling and only like 180-250 calories, if you need something easy. But I'd make a lot of soups from scratch. Soul and a BLT, because I could make a (thin) BLT and have a tomato bisque for like 480 calories. Then days 55-60 I fasted again just because. After second fast I let myself have a 1000 calories a day but I focused primarily on proteins. Some weeks I'd just BBQ some chicken and it was all I'd eat for the next 4-5 days when I got home from work. I'm eating normally these days and I go between 200-210, which I think is fine for my height of 6'2".

My job at that time was pretty physically intensive, lots of lifting, walking around and up steps. Pulling cable kept me busy and my mind off being hungry. I also exercised every morning for about an hour on a stationary bike. My cardio health is superb, now. I was running 4,000 calorie deficits on some days according to my fitbit.
I mean you're typically recommended to only drop 2 pounds a week for various reasons. One being potential skin flaps.
It became an addiction, bro. At the time I didn't think I was fat. I knew I was overweight, but I had been for so long I didn't see it in the mirror. In Jan of 22 a friend and his brothers had a competition to see who could lose the most weight. The winner was 350lbs and lost 10 pounds over the month. I said I could do better, so I tried it. Every day I got on the scale I was a whole pound lighter for those first 2 months. It was crazy. I had people approaching me at work asking if I was sick, HR came down from corporate to talk to me about taking time off to go to the hospital. I emulated AIDS and it felt good to be melting away. I'm not even sure why I stopped when I hit 179. I think I just wanted to see what I looked like at my "ideal" bodyweight and decided I had looked better 20 pounds earlier. Thankfully I have no loose skin. Maybe I'm lucky.
 
Short Kings eternally felted for the Reddit segment:
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Something tells me this guy is really fugly, or his friend is exceptionally handsome. But then again, most of my yuge friends are autistic, and women can smell that.

I've never watched a single episode of GoT or anything related to it, so if you're hoping for me to put up a greater defense for it I'm afraid that's not going to happen.
if aimed at me, no. GoT sucks. the writing is retarded, and even if they stuck to the source more, it would still suck because it's not suited for an adaptation as it is.
 
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