Martin is a fat fucking nihilist that middling IQ jackasses momentarily worshipped because of one episode, The Rains of Castamere which has the red wedding sequence, of a TV show based on a plodding book series that will never be done. A Song of Ice and Fire, the name of the dead, gay series the same middling IQ jackasses only knows as Game of Thrones, is the attempt of of Martin to directly refute Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. How fucking reddit is this asshole? Here's a timestamped link to an interview he did in 2019 followed by the transcribed quote.
"Tolkien, of all the authors I mentioned earlier, had an impact on me, but Tolkien is right up there at the top. I yield to no one in my admiration for
The Lord of the Rings – I re-read it every few years. It’s one of the great books of the 20th century, but that doesn’t mean that I think it’s perfect. I keep wanting to argue with Professor Tolkien through the years about certain aspects of it. He did what he wanted to do very brilliantly, I’ve said this before, but I look at the end and it says, uh, Aragorn is the king and he says, ‘And Aragorn ruled wisely and well for 100 years’ or something. It’s easy to write that sentence, he ruled wisely and well, but I want to know what was his tax policy?
*audience laughter*
And what did he do when famine struck the land? And what did he do with all those Orcs? A lot of Orcs left over.
*more audience laughter*
They weren’t all killed, they ran away into the mountains. Sauron fell down, but you see all the Orcs running away. Did Aragorn carry out a policy of systematic Orc genocide?
*more audience laughter*
Did he send his knights out into the hills to kill all the Orcs? Even the little baby Orcs? Or was there Orc rehabilitation going on?
*audience laughs once again*
Trying to teach the Orcs to be good citizens? And if the Orcs were the result of Elves… could Orcs and Elves intermarry? They can in Dungeons and Dragons I guess I don't know I've never played it.”
This is the level of thought behind the writing that middling IQ jackasses are enraptured with and I say writing when I really mean the HBO show. Im-fucking-magine reading all of LotRs, and doing it every few years, and coming away with this. "I love Tolkien so much more than anyone else in the world but he's a bit of a tard and I can do better." I would argue that A Song of Ice and Fire, remember that the first book came out in 1996, was the last great push of actually creating something with the intention to replace the great works that preceded it before it became far more cost effective and efficient to simply bastardize and remake the original (black Little Mermaid for example) / make a new entry in the series that changes things so dramatically that it erases what was before it with it's twisted canon (The Last Jedi for example). Fuck man, look that Amazon's Lord of Rangz. They didn't even bother to try to make something new. Like the orcs in the books, they twisted it and corrupted it until it was this perversion of what it once was.
The attempted comparison of Martin's schlock to Made In Abyss is a lazy one. I'm not even defending the creepier aspects of MiA like the scatalogical shit. What I'm saying is the horror and suffering in MiA makes sense insofar as that it is the logical conclusion to a child believing that she somehow has the moxy and a literal super power against the power of the abyss to make it all the way to the bottom only to have her shit kicked in because fucking duh. Martin almost takes a glee in the amount and detail of the horror and suffering in his books. This is especially true of the Starks who are the de facto "good guys" in Martin's super edgy, it's not a phase mom, world of "morally grey" Westeros/shitty grimdark Middle Earth.
Even talking about sex between the two is lazy. The amount of what could be even considered sex in MiA is the main character being forced to strip as a punishment, a joke about breaking a broom handle in the robot boy's butt, and later the two of them bathing together while on their journey where the main character is too young to even fathom the issue with her bathing with a boy and because I have to say it no I'm not defending that either. I'm comparing it to Martin's weirdo sex sex shit which is straight up sex and sometimes flat out rape. For example, the shit with Daenerys Targaryen happens in the first Goddamned book where her introduction is her being sold off to shitty grimdark Mongols, her handmaidens putting perfume on her labia (something Marin draws our attention to by writing it out), her recounting all the times her Khan husband takes her from behind and only from behind as is shitty grimdark Mongol custom, and her finding her inner goddess when one of her handmaidens tells her that she has an inner strength and SHE needs to ride her Khan husband instead of him banging her from behind. That sounds like a joke, doesn't it? Danny's first real bit of character development, she's 14 just to remind you, is realizing that you can just do things like fuck your Steppes nigga cowgirl style. Let's not forget that after her hubby dies and she's on her journey to build an army to take back her throne, it's a few years since she unleashed her inner cowgirl goddess, there's a scene where one of her maidens finger blasts her during the night because she misses her dead hubby that much.
I say he's a hack and not a pedophile because he has this autistic level of detail with a lot of his sex shit because he is a hack. Titillation and violence sells very easily and he has that by the fucking bucket not just to sell to retards but as a fuck you to Tolkien. You need to remember the reason A Song of Ice and Fire exists as a fat fuck nihilist's response to Lord of the Rings. Aragorn wouldn't be faithful to his elven bride if this was real life because real life kings like to fuck, man! That's so bogus and not far out, man! George creates this ugly, miserable world filled with depravity and feels the need to describe it all because this is a GROUNDED story that's set in the REAL world, man! The closest you're gonna get to beauty in this realistic world, man, is not true friendship like Sam and Frodo had! It's a teenage waitress with a mouth full of busted teeth getting fucked by reformed Jaymie Lanister's (the incestuous attempted child murder with the title of King Slayer was actually a good guy all along! Expectation status: Subverted!) teenage page because teenagers like to fuck, man, and it's young and innocent, dooooooood!
The issues with MiA have been hashed and rehashed again and again in this thread alone but to compare the offense to the content that with the offense from Martin's work, which is offensive to be offensive purely because he believes Tolkien was inoffensive and he wants to show that fucker up with REAL WRITING, is just lazy.