US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Dr J]

I think RFK jr. is the most likely person in the current admin to make a run to challenge Vance. He is a more sane democrat. He has appeal. As we've seen with Hillary and Obama, someone in that camp has realized they need to pivot back to the center. His tackling of America's health crisis is massive positive people are under estimating. RFK jr. is a real contender in my view to go against Vance. More so than Gavin, AOC, Ossoff. Kamala or Walz are even worth considering beyond a simple dismissal.

Why would RFK Jr challenge Vance? He has no mainstream Democratic support, even though he's a Kennedy, because he's not on the plantation. He can't get on the ballot in all 50 states as an Independent. He probably agrees more with the Trump administration on a lot of issues than he disagrees and, crucially, being aligned with them gives him a chance to actually implement the policies that he's passionate about, rather than simply sitting on the sidelines.

RFK Jr has a lot more to lose than he has to gain by challenging Trump's likely successor. If he doesn't mount a challenge, he has a better than even chance of being allowed to continue in his position as Secretary of HHS.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Q.E.D. people


100% this is what they're doing but it doesn't matter. A concession is a concession. People who hate immigration now see that it is an acceptable position to have. People who just go with what's popular now see it's a popular opinion. Other people who are trying to sell things or win elections have now seen this is how to do it. And people who were 100% convinced that having borders is pure evil and that Obama was pure good are at best going to feel lied to and at worst are going through an existential crisis right now.

The idea that politicians can just lie as part of a grand strategy then leave it at that ignores the ripple effects. This is how wokeism came to power to begin with: Conservatives bent the knee on one thing after the next in order to "win elections" but in doing so they agreed to more favorable win conditions for the left. Slowly but surely the tide of culture moved in that direction. They bent the knee on Iraq, flag burning, economics, obamacare, gay marriage, and eventually even started condemning cops. Even though it was just a strategy to win elections every time they did it they were ceding rhetorical ground that the left gobbled up, before you know it it's "racist" to not hate yourself for being white.

Obama and clinton saying this is functionally them saying "yeah so.... everything trump was saying in 2015 was right actually even though we called you a nazi for agreeing with him..." The headlines will not word it that way but people sure as shit will see it that way.
The second order inferences are:
-Oh so not everybody the MSM calls a nazi is actually a nazi?
-Oh so by their own logic the first black president is a nazi but you're also a nazi for disliking him?
-Maybe the real nazis were the friends we made along the way?

And while you're 100% correct that the democrats don't care about that poster, they do care about themselves, their families, their children (sort of), their assetts and their vacation homes. It's largely them wanting to win elections but it's also them actually realizing that immgirants aren't the perfect little angels they told us they were. latinos also pulled hard for trump btw, never underestimate how butthurt they're going to be about that for the next 500 years.


The difference being that then they had the elctoral college cope, and trump didn't have nearly as much open support from opinion leaders, both in and outside the government. Also notnearly as many people had been radicalized by their first hand experience.

I think the real issue is that Obama and the Clintons DESPERATELY want a reset. The Democrats went way too fucking far and probably see 2028 as a referendum on whether or not they Trumpism/MAGA sticks around. And at this point, they are finally seeing that they need to cede ground on shit, damn the consequences, to bury the issue that made Trump happen.

And on some level, I do think that Obama and his ilk know that there are too many Presidential contenders on the Democrats side who will quadruple down, damn the cost and most notably the notion that they probably fear the idea that another "summer of hate" might win them 2026 but lose them 2028.

 

[LiquidKid]

You can't even buy a whole chicken raw and cook it yourself for that price. Rotisserie chicken is S-tier meta alongside the buck fiddy hot dog combo.
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Yes but it costs $60 year for the opportunity to purchase. Costco memberships are just too expensive

 

[Puff]

>bragging about your sister living in a trailer

You fags need to learn to read. A single woman in her 20s making around 40k owned a double wide. So a house. Just pre-built instead of custom.
If you don't live in a hive, owning a home isn't impossible... it's not even difficult.

 

[Mundane Ralph]

Yes but it costs $60 year for the opportunity to purchase. Costco memberships are just too expensive

Kroger sells rotisserie chickens for $7.99 and Costco for $4.99. You only have to buy a rotisserie chicken about every 18 days to make up that $60 in savings. And the chicken isn't the only thing Costco has cheaper than everybody else. It's honestly worth it just to not have to see niggers. The vast majority of them can't do this simple math either so you never see them there.

 

[Breadbassket]

You fags need to learn to read. A single woman in her 20s making around 40k owned a double wide. So a house. Just pre-built instead of custom.
If you don't live in a hive, owning a home isn't impossible... it's not even difficult.

It's good that some younger people are finding success at acquiring a home relatively early on in their life.

Available data seems to show that they are the exception rather then the norm as of late:

 

[quaawaa]

Kroger sells rotisserie chickens for $7.99 and Costco for $4.99. You only have to buy a rotisserie chicken about every 18 days to make up that $60 in savings. And the chicken isn't the only thing Costco has cheaper than everybody else.

The gas savings alone pays for the membership.

It's honestly worth it just to not have to see niggers. The vast majority of them can't do this simple math either so you never see them there.

Costcos are infested with jeets now.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I don't want RFK to run. He's doing his absolute best work making the most difference in the position he's in. He needs to do it as long as he can. Him being President isn't going to help him do any more MAHA than being HHS Secretary, and he is what America needs now for our health.

Vance is my top tier, because he's young, dynamic, and says it like it is, going toe to toe with leftists on social media and in interviews. He doesn't hold back, and is even more articulate than Trump.

Rubio would ne my number 2, Lil Marco has come a long way. Him vs. AOC would destroy her Magic Hispanic card, super effectively.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

I don't want RFK to run. He's doing his absolute best work making the most difference in the position he's in. He needs to do it as long as he can. Him being President isn't going to help him do any more MAHA than being HHS Secretary, and he is what America needs now for our health.

I don't want RFK to be a republican. I want him to be the face of a new sane democratic party.

Vance is my top tier, because he's young, dynamic, and says it like it is, going toe to toe with leftists on social media and in interviews. He doesn't hold back, and is even more articulate than Trump.

Vance is smart and is the closest to Trump on memability. Which is the big deciding factor. I bet he will be the nominee in 2028

Rubio would ne my number 2, Lil Marco has come a long way. Him vs. AOC would destroy her Magic Hispanic card, super effectively.

Rubio has been doing great, the Munich speech was great. I bet he is a major ideological thinker for the administration. Best case would be Marco as VP for 8 years then president for 8 years. Obviously optimistic.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Fishback's agenda

lol that dipshit doesn't have agendas, he's got theme weeks for his morning zoo radio show
Libertarian 2.0!
Sin tax on thots!
Streaming with cows!
"Polling The Electorate" on Grindr!
Not bathing for a week while stalking H1-Byron events!

Reviewing an old hard drive I have with tons of memes from 2020-2024 chronologically and I just got to the day of Jan 6th 2021:

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grok in betatesting

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

Iran's foreign ministry claims the U.S. is moving toward accepting Tehran's right to enrich uranium on its soil as part of ongoing nuclear negotiations.

LMAO WHAT?! HAD TO DO A DOUBLETAKE READING THAT. ARE THEY ON CRACK?

 

[okyt]

I get the feeling that the Epstein Files is the new Q Anon.
You'll have people 10 years from now drawing connections with whatever happens in 2036 and some vague line written in email #3856260

 

[General Disarray]

Damn, I was checking around into my preferred area to move to, looked up manufactured homes, and found one for $80K with three bedrooms (1216 sq.ft.), two baths, gas range, dishwasher, etc. that is 4 blocks from Lake Michigan and the grocery store, in a nice, white mid-sized city. Thanks for reminding me of this option!

Yeah, I've seen some of those really tricked out doublewides in my time in Oklahoma and I'd prefer to live on my own piece of property rather than a park, but for the price I could just buy that thing outright with cash and live very comfortably in my retirement.

 

[LeChampion1992]

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One of these days these fucking people are gonna get shot by the wrong person with that mentality.

Until that happens and let's be honest if it does happen they will totes spin the lefty as a martyr for the cause while your side is villianized for being evil.

 

[Buzz Killington]

It's a total crash out:

All this retarded niggermonkey had to do was not be indian and not sperg out. Does he really think this performative garbage is going to win him votes? Ohio is now condemned to 1000 years of jeet rule.

 

[SleepingBull]

You fags need to learn to read. A single woman in her 20s making around 40k owned a double wide. So a house. Just pre-built instead of custom.
If you don't live in a hive, owning a home isn't impossible... it's not even difficult.

And how much debt is she in because of it?

Sign away 30% of your income for the next 30 years of your life and then sure, a house is easy. Just as long as you don't pay attention to the 9 years of indentured servitude you've just taken up, and you don't mind whatever that sort of usurious transaction does to your soul.

If you want to fix housing prices its damned simple: ban mortgages. Call them what they are: Indentured servitude, and thus illegal via the 13th. Stop the masses from spending 9 years of money they don't have on things and then those of us with a few years of income saved up will be able to buy housing that actually costs what it is worth.

Don't underestimate the scale of debt-shyness that the whole college debt thing caused. Both those who went through it and those who saw their friends go through it have reasons to think better of buying into an overpriced market on margin.

 

[Joy Jay]

I get the feeling that the Epstein Files is the new Q Anon.
You'll have people 10 years from now drawing connections with whatever happens in 2036 and some vague line written in email #3856260

These emails are real and so were Podesta's.

Our country is run by child-raping jews no matter who you vote for.

But at least our child-raping jews are winning!!!!!!

 

[Rolex]

We've officially entered the era of a new, much worse plague than COVID19: EFDS (Epstein Files Derangement Syndrome)

Anything and everything bad or weird that ever happens will now explosively, immediately, and entirely impotently be blamed on anyone with any fame or authority at all, with the sole qualifier being "this person('s friend's friend's uncle) was in the Epstein Files. Actually, they don't even have to be attached to the files at all, because they're probably in on it too if you think about it.

No crimes will ever be conclusively solved ever again in the eyes of the public, because apparently a large contingent of retards in our country don't have the brain power to handle the complexity of politics so they pawn it off to forget about their responsibility to this country.

State-enforced transitioning for 9 year olds, 150 million jeets and Somalis, mass disarming through strict gun laws, capital punishment for racist Facebook posts?
Nah bro, who cares about that. All these people are the same, they all secretly eat babies! I refuse to vote for anyone who could eat a baby. You're voting republican? Wow, I bet your Dad's friend's name is in the FILES bro. You support Trump? He's straight up ALL OVER the FILES bro. He called the police on Epstein? Don't be so naive, he obviously planted that bro, the Files are edited! Left wing, right wing, they're two wings on the same baby-eating bird. Be smart and don't vote.

.......jokes aside, I know that there are real evil freaks out there that have unlimited authority on the global stage, but we can't just let our country rot because of it. Politics may be gay and scummy, but most politicians aren't a part of any conspiracy. We need to hold them to a very high standard, not give up on the whole thing entirely. That's how we get fucked by degenerate progressives. Our founding fathers wanted every one of us to be informed and active in our government, hyper-vigilant about protecting our people and our Constitution, all for the love of our God. We can't do that by sinking into the hellish pit of conspiracy with no end goal. Is there a conspiracy? There are probably many. We can address that as we actually find verifiable evidence of each one, but for now we need to protect this country from the people who are explicitly, loudly expressing their intent to obliterate it.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

These emails are real and so were Podesta's.

Our country is run by child-raping jews no matter who you vote for.

Washington, New York, Los Angles, London, Berlin, and Tel Aviv should be nuked for the crimes they've committed against their own people. Average Joe's that just wanted to work a job, buy a house, and make a family. That isn't to mention the endless wars, human trafficking, drug running, and terrorist supporting. But destroying the system will not help those average Joes, it will likely hurt them far more.

 

[Joy Jay]

We've officially entered the era of a new, much worse plague than COVID19: EFDS (Epstein Files Derangement Syndrome)

Anything and everything bad or weird that ever happens will now explosively, immediately, and entirely impotently be blamed on anyone with any fame or authority at all, with the sole qualifier being "this person('s friend's friend's uncle) was in the Epstein Files. Actually, they don't even have to be attached to the files at all, because they're probably in on it too if you think about it.

No crimes will ever be conclusively solved ever again in the eyes of the public, because apparently a large contingent of retards in our country don't have the brain power to handle the complexity of politics so they pawn it off to forget about their responsibility to this country.

State-enforced transitioning for 9 year olds, 150 million jeets and Somalis, mass disarming through strict gun laws, capital punishment for racist Facebook posts?
Nah bro, who cares about that. All these people are the same, they all secretly eat babies! I refuse to vote for anyone who could eat a baby. You're voting republican? Wow, I bet your Dad's friend's name is in the FILES bro. You support Trump? He's straight up ALL OVER the FILES bro. He called the police on Epstein? Don't be so naive, he obviously planted that bro, the Files are edited! Left wing, right wing, they're two wings on the same baby-eating bird. Be smart and don't vote.

"Being angry that both sides of the political spectrum are run by child rape-murdering jews is just derangement" come on man.

This thread is something else I tell ya. I think CTR's constant kvetching finally paid off.