📚 Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

Magic Pickle said:
And thank god I was able to get a hysto before they start putting us in ICE warehouses.
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Huuuwhat? Unless she’s an illegal, what does ICE have to do with this? Is there some conspiracy theory I missed? Best way I can describe this type of behavior is “insincere Alex Jones cargo cult larping”. Because there is no way they believe this the way some on the right believed they were preparing to throw non-Jabbie’s in FEMA concentration camps.
 
Drive-by Farts said:
Huuuwhat? Unless she’s an illegal, what does ICE have to do with this? Is there some conspiracy theory I missed? Best way I can describe this type of behavior is “insincere Alex Jones cargo cult larping”. Because there is no way they believe this the way some on the right believed they were preparing to throw non-Jabbie’s in FEMA concentration camps.
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They're retarded. They legitimately equate ICE with SS because they take whatever goyslop the liberal MSM shits out at face value as their holy book because they live in gated communities and work white collar jobs with room temp IQ. and zero ability to think for themselves. "Don't do any research, just listen and believe." But I wouldn't expect any less from the people who use the word "my truth" like truth is some thing that changes. No, there is only the truth, objective, and the fucking truth is we're being invaded by illegals who're taking your fucking jobs.

They seriously don't fucking get it because it conflicts with all the mushy lovey crap the liberals shit out. They disrespect blue collar work so they don't care if a construction team is made up of a bunch of men being paid $2/hr who can't speak english because it doesn't affect them, because they're privileged, selfish, and spoiled. Why is the construction team made of illegal aliens who will do the work for $2/hr and can't speak english? BECAUSE THE AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO SHOULD BE THE ONES DOING THAT JOB, WHO ARE CAPABLE, ASKED FOR ACTUAL GOOD PAY. YOU KNOW, THAT THING LIBERALS KEEP WHINING ABOUT DESERVING. (ie "I bet the person complaining is unemployed yukyuk" MAYBE THEY'RE FUCKING UNEMPLOYED BECAUSE YOUR GODDAMN PET ILLEGAL TOOK THE JOB THEY SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE THE ILLEGAL ISN'T GOING TO DEMAND $30/hr FOR BREAKING THEIR BACK IN THE GRUELLING HEAT YOU GODDAMN RETARDS)

My God man they're so fucking retarded it's like trying to teach a fucking toddler. A retarded toddler. And they shove their fingers in their ears and go "LALALALALA AMERICAN DREAM STOLEN LAND" I had a fucking brain hemorrhage when I was born so I'm probably not working at full capacity and I CAN understand this. But this is expected from a load of people who legitimately believe you can change your sex by chopping off and rearranging bits of yourself. Cutting out your uterus and stapling a flesh sock to your crotch makes you no more a man than putting antlers on my head makes me a deer.
 
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Drive-by Farts said:
there is no way they believe this the way some on the right believed they were preparing to throw non-Jabbie’s in FEMA concentration camps
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To be fair, those on the right were responding to the entire Media apparatus demonizing them on a daily basis, and showing surveys where majorities of leftists wanted to fire them, put them under house arrest, deny them medical treatment, take away their children, and imprison them.
 
Cun75p4rkl35 said:
Cutting out your uterus and stapling a flesh sock to your crotch makes you no more a man than putting antlers on my head makes me a deer.
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I always liked to phrase it: "if I put on cat ears and a fur coat and shit in a litter box, would that make me a cat?"
 
Stan said:
I always liked to phrase it: "if I put on cat ears and a fur coat and shit in a litter box, would that make me a cat?"
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A cat is anyone who self-identifies as a cat; ergo a member of Felis catus can never be a cat, because said creature cannot self-identify.
 
Positron said:
A cat is anyone who self-identifies as a cat; ergo a member of Felis catus can never be a cat, because said creature cannot self-identify.
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My housemates of felis catus may not identify as cats, but they will fight like cats and demand attention from me like cats. Unlike Male men who act like human males, fight likes human males, demand attention like human males, and rape like human males.
 
Positron said:
A cat is anyone who self-identifies as a cat; ergo a member of Felis catus can never be a cat, because said creature cannot self-identify.
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counterpoint: I just asked my cat if she is in fact a pretty kitty, and she said "EEEEeeee."

Who are you to dispute her lived experience?!
 
Drive-by Farts said:
Huuuwhat? Unless she’s an illegal, what does ICE have to do with this? Is there some conspiracy theory I missed?
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All I know is the last season of the shitlib cape show The Boys fantasized about the trump stand-in putting everyone in camps, and that show came out before trump was re-elected. I've heard several bluesky users allude to authors and books that argue that fascism has a specific and regimented progression, and the last stage is always genocide camps. It is really scaring the shit out of them. A recent law in kasnas that mandates biological sex going on IDs has kicked up the frenzy in the troon sub-population.
 
Sloppa said:
Having grown up in a 3rd world country with 6 month waiting time for getting a cat neutered, I can only tell you. . .cats are little tarts! When my childhood cat went into heat, we locked her in our dining room, to chill out, but she ATE HER WAY through a false wall over a fireplace, climbed a 20 foot chimney tunnel and grew a simp-squad of tomcats (which she took home to the courtyard of our apartment building).
She was feral for like a month, my parents and the other grownups has to blast the simp-squad with hoses of cold water to make them clear off, then when she had her fun, my cat arrived a week later with her friggin' 6 nipples protruding disrespectfully. (but her kittens were just 10/10, fluffy tortashell girls with lemon-yellow eyes and browny-black boys with eyes the colour of kiwifruit slices).

TL;DR: icky, but not rape.
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i've not yet figured out archlinux shtuff. but :
 
Though this troon went with popular dick demolisher Dr. Chettawutt to maneuver his flesh around like a balloon animal, the outcome has been less than stellar. When you open up these pictures, I advise that you keep in mind this result is 7 years old, so this isn't one of those cases where a horror-hole is fresh out of surgery and therefore looks uglier than normal. But also this is, sincerely, a really, really funny one, and you should totally look at it and make your friends look at it too.
Accomplished_You6526 (Dr. Chettawutt; non-penile inversion vaginoplasty)
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NSFW ?revision vulvaplasty​

NSWF ?revision vulvaplasty

EDIT: original deleted - reposting with better cropped images

I had NPI vaginoplasty in 2019 with Dr Chettawut and am pretty unhappy with the external results. Depth wise I’m doing ok, not great but getting by with just under 5inches.

Not sure if I’m just dysphoric but the vulva looks…horrifying. Feedback from partners hasn’t been consistent at all. Some have said looks fine others have definitely raised eyebrows.

I have not seen many natal vaginas but of the few I have none of them have looked like this.
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This tranny's fakepussy is not quite as galling as the first, but his complaints of experiencing numbness make sense when you see just how much tissue the two good doctors took off of his body; the result is so pale, flat and featureless, it resembles a sunbleached fleshlight more than it does an actual vulva.
ProjectOdd7225 (Dr. Theerapong and Dr. Amani; vaginoplasty)
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Still numb 7 months post op srs​

My left side vulva is numb 7 months after srs revision surgery also the middle of the mons pubis, while my right side has full sensation and I can feel warm and nice when I orgasm...

Is this a concern? Is my left side gonna be numb?

Anyone with some experience?
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When we were all first introduced to PretendAd745's vaginoplasty, it looked as if it'd lost a bar fight to a bear, puffed up and swollen nearly to the point of bursting. Now he's fully healed up and while it looks... well, "better," one can see how he remains disappointed overall with his experience.
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Honest feedback​

So I only have the first stage of the two stage vaginoplasty so I don’t have my inner labia or my hood. That being said how does it look and how does my vaginal canal look because it looks real small to me compared to others that I’ve seen and I’ve heard that it looks fine and it looks normal but for some reason to me, it just looks super wrong and not good
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Funeral potatoes: it's time for us to say farewell to Alfiehar's pathetic little potato-peen - though it's not because she's dead. Oh, no, unfortunately for her, she's very much alive! But she has finally reached the end of her surgical journey for the time being, and as such, updates will now be fewer and further between. With this knowledge, she returns to Reddit one more time to reflect on the road she's traveled and ruminate on the road ahead, and for her, the future remains unclear...
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General update for the time being​

guess just giving a general update on things cause this has been a up and down roller coaster. I can at least say im fully healed minus a small Itty bitty section of wound separation happening right now thats getting better day by day.

emotionally, im now just kinda just sad. angers gone but heart break is still very much there but thats going to hang around for a while longer as I can't quite afford the exact therapy I need at the moment to help process everything comfortably haha (yay medical leave and almost a grand in taxi fares i wasnt prepared to pay for due to the extended stay in hopsital ) but im getting back to work here soon so thatll be not a issue after a few weeks of working haha.

i dont know how to feel going forward, I actually dont have much hope things will actually get better. Thats a pretty low bar to get over right now because anything is better then nothing.

i didnt get much confidence talking to the one surgeon on what's the potential plan going forward other than waiting a year for anything. if anything can be done. that doesnt ease much for me. nor did I get any answers to why the separation happened as it did and why it was left alone for so long. Didnt actually get to ask that one. Mostly as the call was already upsetting after 5 months of no active answers to what happened in surgery, why I was in the hopsital for so long and so forth as communication really wasnt a thing 😓

I got answers finally for what happened in the 5th surgery why I woke up with no urethra and it was essentially because of scar tissue that had started to develop blocked things off ( no surprise given it was left to heal alone for 3 weeks 🫠 ) and wasnt possible to really save anything and just slapped a graft over everything and sealed it all off.

the retracted scar tissue is causing me pain on the side thats forcing the "phallus" to point hard left especially wearing regular pants as it cant sit comfortably. so thats fun.

I actually have kinda excess skin around the base as it bulges outwards around the scar tissue of the base so thats also something fun to deal with as I originally had thought the one spot was wound separation but no it was just recessed under the skin about a q tip top in.

the new urethra is healed, still fucking sucks for placement and Im not thrilled living like this for a year as again the situation of being so far the first case for the urologist for how bad things were in there for his whole career.

its going to be a not so fun appointment when ever in april ill be seeing both surgeons and find out what can be potentially done if anything can be done.

I hope something can be done because this would be a horrible way to have wasted almost 8 years to end up with something I cant really even have confidence in or smile about.

im working on trying to think on is positively, at least its healed, I have no active bleeding anymore, moving doesnt hurt in general. I can get back to day to day life with ease. my donor arm is mostly functional, I have some minor tightness and general weakness but thats getting better day by day now.
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A FTM asks for guidance on how to properly get all of the urine out of her floppy little fakedong as she has issues with chronically leaking urine throughout the day regardless of whether she's gone to the bathroom recently or not. As such, she needs advice, and the pissy li'l poons of r/phallo are happy to help with various solutions: "I pretty much pull my balls back, then use my fingers on my balls to drag everything forward. I get a lot of urine out this way," suggests one, while another recommends a particular kind of underwear as they have "a special material that wicks the urine away and pulls it into the fabric." Most disturbingly, OP reports that doodz on a tighter dime have reported resorting to using baby socks to catch any drippings, so if you ever wonder whether troons or poons or worse, remember: it's not a race, but more of a yin-yang of perversion where one complements the other.
ftmystery (Dr. Genoway and Dr. Kavanaugh; radial forearm-flap phalloplasty)
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How do YOU milk?​

I know everyone milks differently because it depends on your anatomy. I’m almost three months post-op and still leaking urine throughout the day. I don’t think I’ve figured out the best way to milk. I’m thinking I have a diverticulum-type thing that is holding urine in it. The leakage is not just after I pee, it leaks throughout the day regardless of when I last urinated. I’m looking for different strategies for milking that I could try out. Please be as specific as possible!
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Story time, story time!
TiMMY the Tinkler Pink_Ranger_04 has sought out further help for his routine incontinence and has discovered that he actually has tremendous inflammation over "basically the whole pelvic region," which he directly blames his vaginoplasty of inducing. "SRS has taken away all the dignity I have!" He bleats helplessly, but his cries fall on deaf ears to those who ought to be first in line to aid him. Nearly Shakespearean in its tragedy, truly.
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Prostatitis after SRS Vaginoplasty​

I’ve been experiencing urinary and fecal urge incontinence due to prostatitis. Urine culture came back negative, so I don’t think it’s bacterial prostatitis. I thought it was because of pelvic floor dysfunction, but a recent CT showed immense inflammation of bladder/kidneys, rectum, and prostate. Basically the whole pelvic region. I’m pretty sure vaginoplasty contributed to this. How do I cure this? SRS has taken away all the dignity I have!
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Thread favorite RedRockWulf is under the impression that if she deletes all past pictures of herself and gaslight her child from birth that she can escape who she once was now that she has a silly little flesh-puppet bouncing upon the stage of her pelvis. Something about this mentality always gives me the heebie-jeebies; perhaps I find it a harrowing trait to be so eager to deceive the young and vulnerable who, as baby monkeys, are born with the ingrained instinct to follow you and trust you...
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Stealth Guys: Once transitioned, did you delete all evidence of you being trans?​

Wondering what others have done regarding this
I’m now nearly 3 years post phallo and don’t think about being trans in my daily life. I’ve gradually pulled out of more and more LGBT / trans communities because I relate less and less to it and don’t see it as my identity, just a medical condition I’ve treated
I’d like to have kids in the coming future and would not disclose I’m trans and will therefore have to make sure I don’t have anything pointing to my past
I have an album on my phone of phallo progress pics I took every stage, before/after top surgery pics, testosterone video updates, a few folders of art I made as a kid with my old name, high school year book, journals, childhood photo albums, etc
I’ve been gradually getting rid of more and more, but some I’m not too sure what to do with. I don’t look back on any of this and reminisce. I mostly cringe and debate on deleting / burning it, but figure I’ll wait a few months to make a decision. What do I do with my pre transitioned pictures as a child with grandparents?
What did y’all do?
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6 months after getting her arm flayed to craft a comedy routine over her crotch, a dood is bothered by the fact that her girlfriend is relatively apathetic about the whole situation, which hurts her in her tender fee-fees as she wishes there was more fanfare around her fauxnis. The funniest reply that she gets is the pathetic li'l dood whose MTF partner seems almost repulsed when it comes to handling it (which she chalks up to her partner's ADHD), but most of them tell OP to do the mature thing and just talk to her which is remarkably level-headed. I'm eager to see if we get an update where she learns of her girlfriend's secret disgust, so I'll be keeping an eye on her...
AdvancedSoftware47 (radial forearm-flap phalloplasty)
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Expectations in relationship​

My partner and I have been together 12 years now. We’ve never had any issues with anything really. She’s been with me throughout my whole transition and has always been really supportive but I can’t help feel that something has changed.
I’m 6 months post op Stage 1. It has been an extremely long journey to get to this point (after being on the waiting list for 6 years). I have finally had my first surgery and it is completely life changing.
I know this is still early days but I suppose I just expected more? We’ve both been waiting for this for so long and she just doesn’t seem to share the same feelings as me. She doesn’t even acknowledge my penis at all. I don’t even mean just sexually, but just idk, it’s a huge milestone and she’s the only other person on this journey with me but it feels like I’ve had this surgery and it’s just been forgotten.
I love my penis, I want to talk about it, how it feels, how it’s changing. I don’t want to put any pressure on her but I want her to be excited too.
It would be helpful to know if anyone else had a shift in their relationship, sexually or not, and how they approached this.
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An Indian TiF warns others about a clinic in India that supposedly did something terrible to "someone," but doesn't offer many details about the case aside from the fact that supposedly this individual lost a leg to infection as the nefarious doctors planned it on purpose so that they could... blame it on the patient? This whole post is kind of bizarre, but since I like keeping track of international providers and procedures, I'm tossing it in. (OP was considering getting a phalloplasty in India, but I wonder if she'll reconsider after this - imagining that this story has any truth to it.)
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Avoid Zenith hospital in India​

Making this post for better visibility and I am also tired of people in India gatekeeping info about phalloplasty in India. I understand that most of the guys go stealth afterwards and kinda leave all queer spaces. So this is also kind of rant.
So recently someone went to this hospital for phalloplasty. They told him that “chances of complications are just 5% and that too of fistulas which can heal on its own”. He went ahead with them for surgery. He had RFF and it was 9 hours long surgery. He woke up couldn’t feel his left leg from below knees to toes. He asked the doctor what’s up and doctor said it happens sometimes it will be fine afterwards.
It didn’t become fine afterwards, in fact they deliberately tried to let infection spread to this leg so that they can amputate it blaming it on the infection.
They messed up nerve connection in the thigh part and he ended up loosing one of his legs now. I feel so angry and sad at the same time. I hope the whole panel of doctors are banned from medical practice.
They didn’t even give him any of his medical files saying that the files got stolen ???
So please avoid this hospital for any kind of surgery.
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A TiM has some sort of mishap getting a vague and undeclared "lower surgery" from one Dr. Lago in Spain, leading to a traumatic tale of gaslighting, sepsis and a very, very close brush with death. I don't know why you would go to the trouble of writing this exhausting, borderline Biblical affair and not even specify what happened, but all I know is he didn't get his dick ripped off. If I had to guess, I think he might've had an orchiectomy, but whatever it was, he still says "I’m not saying don’t go here"! Good grief, if you go to a doctor after reading something like this, you deserve to die in a foreign country.
Adventurous_Bit_1593 (Dr. Lago; procedure unspecified)
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Dr Lago in Spain- WARNING​

This is long but I strongly advise you reading this if you’re planning on going to Dr Lago, and at least be informed before you go. I wrote this several months after and posted in the fb group, and have added edits now I’m 1 year post op and now someone has pointed me to Reddit that I’d never used before
I’ve been trying to write this for a while and struggled to do so, because it’s been a lot physically and emotionally. But I want people using this team to be fully informed before travelling to Spain. side note: I went for lower surgery, not top surgery, and a more complex procedure. But this stuff can happen to/can apply to, anyone. Whatever surgery you’re having or thinking of having with this team - READ TO THE END. Make informed decisions!
The consultation phase was brilliant, Dr Lago answered all my questions, and followed up with more information when I requested it, and sent me voice drops to WhatsApp to explain things in more detail when I thought of other things to ask later or to explain something in a way I could understand.
However, I think it’s important to talk about the MANY things that weren’t good. One issue is accessibility (at the bottom of the post, feel free to skip this if you’re not a wheelchair user/reduced mobility). The other parts are quite a difficult read. And I have added content warnings below!
[[edited to add now I’m a year post op so you can hear it’s not “just healing and swelling process”… RESULTS: I have now had a year to heal, recover, and process this trauma. Pros: thin, neat scars. But that’s where it ends. Nothing is even. He removed too much of one side so my entire genitalia is lopsided. He didn’t remove all the skin he assured me he would so I have a painful dog-ear type but of skin under my penis, that pulls and rubs. He didn’t remove the fat in the correct places so I now am an odd shape. Once you’ve read the post you will understand why I’m not going back for adjustments. I don’t want to die. So this year has been a lot of therapy and working on accepting my body as it now is]]
SECOND EDIT: he also trapped 2 nerves during the surgery, and I lost all movement in 2 places and was terrified I was going to lose sensation forever. Thankfully with care and rest and time, I fully recovered full sensation and movement in both areas! It took months. He did not do much to reassure me, nor did he ever afterwards check in with how that was going. As I say below- his team have never once checked in since I was in the emergency room. For all they know I’m dead or paralysed. But teams like this have hoards of lawyers so I believe they just care about covering their asses and they know none of us have the money to pursue legal action.
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Post operative care:
CW: GORY DETAILS, medical incompetence, sepsis. death talk. Emotional stuff. Mental health. Autism. Gaslighting.
What I was disgusted by was the complete negligence with regard to post op care. And the horrific treatment I received, after they had taken my money. It felt as though as soon as the surgery was done, they gave up giving a care about you. Not only that, they gaslit and berated me.
Because I have other health issues I was told before I travelled the Spain I would be staying in an extra night, but as soon as we got to the morning after surgery (I was still extremely unwell and barely conscious) I was quite bluntly told to get myself ready to leave. Zero discharge care, no real explanation, everything was very rushed, and there was a lot of miscommunication. My catheter was not emptied despite my partner repeatedly asking (in the UK it is legal post op care to monitor output, so clearly they did not care if I was peeing and how much), to the point where it burst over and spilled pee all over the floor, and my partner had to grab something to pour it into. The nurse came in, huffed, emptied the bag, and LEFT THE PEE ON THE FLOOR!!! It took hours to get a doctor to come to the ward and hear our constant requests for more meds and pain killers.
During post op appointments, not a single observation was done; there was no temperature taken, no real wound assessment, they were only interested in the areas they had to remove stitches, which it seems is all the post op appointments seemed to be for. At the second post op I got my catheter changed because my carer stood up and demanded it because I was in pain. And they gave me some antibiotics in case of a UTI. again, no tests run, no checking of the site, nothing.
In my opinion, this is complete negligence. Any time a body is open, there is a risk of infection. And to claim otherwise is stupidity. Observations should be done, temperature should be checked, blood tests to check infection markers, anything!
I expressed how much pain I was in throughout my stay, and how concerned about the swelling I was. And whilst they sourced more pain killers, I was told repeatedly swelling is normal, pain is normal, to just keep wearing the compression gear and resting and be patient.
Following the second post op, I flew home. 2 days later I knew something was wrong. For 2 weeks the surgery team treated me as if I was being overdramatic, and a wimp (I live with chronic pain, I know what pain is!), and kept telling me pain and swelling is normal and didn’t run any obs or tests during post op appointments. At no point did they remove the compression gear fully to look at my body. They just pulled a bit back and pulled the stitches out.
This resulted in me growing multiple “collections” (blood and fluid- haematomas!) inside my abdomen and pelvis, and them becoming severely infected. The gaslighting had me at home alone telling myself to just rest and push through and wait it out. Til my temp was 40 degreesC, and I was becoming dangerously ill, at which point an ambulance was sent and whisked me off to hospital and I was swelling so fast and so severely.
To add to this, whilst I was in A&E getting tests run, and I was in the worst agony I have ever experienced, and as someone with chronic pain who has had 7 surgeries in my life, that’s saying something. I was rapidly becoming sicker. I contacted the team- sending a message to dr Lago, Sara, Gonzalo (their WhatsApp’s) AND both administration email addresses. I let them know I was in the emergency room very sick, and that I needed any surgical paperwork they had for the doctors to see. Only gonzalo responded, telling me I had the information- which turned out to be one piece of paper I left the hospital with in Spain, that just stated what they had done. nothing else. He then proceeded to tell me that there’s nothing wrong with me, and to put the compression gear on and go home and rest. This communication went on, to the point where I gave my phone to the A&E doctor, who sent him my CT scan, and the written report accompanying it. Gonzalo continued to gaslight me and tell me he couldn’t see anything wrong, that there’s no way I could be infected, and I should go home. The A&E doctor told me to stop responding because he, his boss the head of department , the CT team AND a team of surgeons had all seen me and I was severely infected and needed to go to surgery. To not allow him to gaslight me , and that they’re just covering their own ass. He also said any doctor who can’t admit mistake or admit that there’s always a chance of infection, isn’t a good doctor. This was all relayed to me after as by this point I was becoming delirious, distressed and confused. Gonzalo continued repeatedly messaging me throughout the night asking for updates and asking whether I’d put my compression gear back on and gone home yet (they cut it off me at the hospital to see my body and I was swelling so fast I couldn’t put it on if I’d wanted). I never responded because right after this I took a serious turn and was rushed into surgery.
I was taken into emergency surgery by a trauma team. I almost died on the table, they had and A line into my writ and the biggest gauge of cannula that is made because they were not sure I would make it. I had my abdomen flushed out and all the infections removed. I was so so sick, I was delirious, they changed my bed 4 times the first day cos I was soaked in sweat, I couldn’t cool down, I was a mess mentally. It was horrific. The surgeon told me I had serious sepsis, and if I hadn’t called when I had and got here so fast it wouldn’t have been a successful outcome. The largest they removed from my left side, was a foot long (30cm!!) haematoma, that was infected. The doctors said it had clearly been growing the entire time in Spain!
Following 5 days in hospital, being closely monitored, and pumped full of several types of antibiotics, iron infusions from severe anemia (my blood condition is polycythaemia, so I create too many red blood cells, this is in simple terms, th opposite of anemia, so for ME to get anemic, it’s pretty bad. That’s some serious blood loss!), and a drain hanging out my side, that filled so fast the bag kept overflowing. Eventually, psych was called because I was in such a bad way. They advised they do what they can to get me home because my mental health was not good (I’m also autistic and was very overwhelmed). Getting me home and into bed safely was an ordeal.
For the next 6 months, I was trapped in my home, being visited daily (twice daily at first because of the state of the open wound and the amount of fluid coming out), by district nurses, who were wonderful. And care duties were taken on between my carer and my partner on a rotation basis as I live alone usually. One of the wounds, where the drain had been, had to be kept open and healed from the inside out, packed and dressed daily, and it was 13cm deep. It took 6 months to close. During which time I couldn’t be in water (which is my happy place, swimming is the only exercise I can often do due to disability), I was bed bound for the first block of time, then began to make it to sofa with help. Then eventually out into daylight for short periods. I didn’t get back out into the world for 6 months! And the nurses were there every day until that wound closed.
Every little worry I had, they are very attentive and reassuring, and followed up. They got a GP to come check me over when I was worrying about the firmness of the swelling (my body is very very swollen and sore, and I wasn’t able to wear the compression gear of course so that had me worried), and he said he would come reassure me as many times as I needed, and that feeling paranoid, emotional, struggling with MH is entirely expected after this much trauma.
It wasn’t til I was home from hospital that all the emotion hit me. I think because I was in survival mode and didn’t sleep the whole 5 days, til psych advised them to send me home. I was incredibly scared having sepsis and when I was swelling up, it was so painful and tight I felt like my skin was going to rip open. I felt like I was tearing! I struggled to do anything for most of the year. I cried more than I have in my life. The recovery took all year, and one year on this month, I am finally able to self propel in my wheelchair, swim more regularly, and socialise in a way that is just about normal for me. I had to go back into intense, weekly, trauma therapy. Which I am still in.
And have I heard from the team in Spain since the night of gaslighting? NO! Not a single message, email, follow up, nothing! If I had died they wouldn’t know! I have STILL not heard a single thing!!! I did not say it is their “fault” I got infections, infections are a risk any time a body is open. It happens. But their negligence in the post operative stages almost certainly led to me leaving it until I had sepsis and almost died, and having emergency surgery back home. It doesn’t bear thinking about , what would have happened if I hadn’t flown home when I did, and had the NHS to look after me. If I had gone to them with that, I would have been sent home to rest!
I understand as Trans people we often feel trapped and our options very limited. And their team is comparatively cheap, next to some, and clearly they have had some good results. But cheap is cheap for a reason. And I would not recommend this surgical team to my worst enemy.
I’m not saying don’t go here. But if you do, I would strongly advise you keep a VERY close eye on your temperature, the pain levels, the skin for any abnormal redness, excessive swelling. Buy an O2 finger monitor, and a blood pressure monitor and keep track. I firmly believe they should be running blood tests at post op appointments, at the very least to check for infection markers. If you can afford it, take a nurse with you! Or at least a carer with some nursing training/experience, who can keep an eye on you.
I have NO clue what would have happened if I had become septic while still in the country. I can make a guess, judging by the way they treated me- I would have died in the air bnb. And my partner would have had to navigate getting me home.
Edit: Medication side note: I’m also on anticoagulants for life, and I told Lago before I went exactly how it was handled in all previous surgeries (stop the day before, lots of tests, heparin whilst in hospital until my levels are safe enough to start anticoagulants again). He said that’s fine. He then proceeded to do none of that. He told me to stop 4 days before. He did check my haemacrit day before surgery. No heparin given whilst in hospital as I was told would happen. Then the day after surgery when I brought this up he shrugged and he just said “yeh start taking them again”. No tests. nothing. There’s no way to know if this added to the internal bleeding, the haematomas. But I certainly didn’t feel cared for, or monitored in any way.
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Accessibility:
Considering one of their specialties is bariatric surgeries, you would think the hospital would be fully accessible for all wheelchairs. I am a wheelchair user, and to fly and travel with I borrowed a friend’s manual chair, that was a bariatric (so wider than usual) wheelchair. I don’t usually use one this wide but I knew it would give me extra width and comfort post op as I was having work done on my sides. This hospital is not as accessible as it claims to be. Spain clearly doesn’t have the same regulations on ramp steepness as lots of places we went, we found what we nicknamed ‘death ramps’. That involved my carer and partner running at them while pushing me. This includes the hospital. Giant ramp up to one door, that you check in at. Small ramp into the middle door, more manageable but only needed to go in here once. And a steep ramp down to the other door (where I came out when discharged). None of the doors inside the hospital were wide enough for the chair, causing me to get out and walk supported through a room, leaving one of my 2 companions with the chair in the hallway, to get my pre op tests. This happened a lot. There is also only one lift in the building to get between floors, which is used for transporting people to surgery, so the staff kept trying to tell us we couldn’t use it as it was for surgery only, but there was no other route through the hospital. Generally, the hospital is just not feasible if you’re unable to get up and walk at all. The post op appointment at their office was in a small street in a very busy part of the city, on a hill, and the office wasn’t wide enough to get through without them having to move a bunch of chairs. They arranged for my second post op to be at the hospital instead. Anyone who can’t self mobilise could not use this surgical team.
Add to that the fact that they couldn’t understand that I was a wheelchair user outside of surgery. I wasn’t just using the chair post op, and kept having to reiterate this fact, instead of them just including it in my medical information!
Add into this, there is only one air bnb in the area that has level access, but wasn’t fully accessible. Which we used, as I have the ability to take a few steps, and could manage with support the bathroom. So if you’re a wheelchair user you may have to try find a hotel - which would be much more expensive and much more restrictive.
I live in Edinburgh which is not a very accessible city, so comparatively Madrid was not too bad on the whole (apart from the death ramps). I think most places I would have been fine with a standard width chair, and there were fully accessible taxis, with trained drivers.
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This might be the first rotdog featured on this thread that isn't some pornbrained monster can sized horror. If I saw that in my peripheral vision in a locker room or shower I wouldn't think twice... Now the pooner attached to it is a different thing entirely.
 
Magic Pickle said:
A TiM has some sort of mishap getting a vague and undeclared "lower surgery" from one Dr. Lago in Spain, leading to a traumatic tale of gaslighting, sepsis and a very, very close brush with death. I
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He has a clotting disorder, is wheelchair bound, in chronic pain, yet he went to a foreign country to get himself butchered so he can play dress-goes-spinny? While I'm sure the Spanish doctor had fucked up big time, the troon get no sympathy from me.
 
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Accomplished_You6526 (Dr. Chettawutt; non-penile inversion vaginoplasty)
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I love how Doc Chettawutt left the ballsack seam in there. It seriously looks like someone just punched him cartoon-style in the dick and balls. Also hilarious how he has his fingers in the classic Stinkditch Spread™ Position, but he's not actually spreading it, so they're just kind of hovering there uselessly. It's like a tic.
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Most disturbingly, OP reports that doodz on a tighter dime have reported resorting to using baby socks to catch any drippings
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More evidence in favor of the phalloplasty pseudoinfant theory. Next thing you know, these girls will be putting tiny diapers on their flesh roll-ups.
 
Kerry Benton said:
The OP is a TIF actually, and it was metoidioplasty (she crossposted to a couple of those subs and r/FTM)

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No comments in 2 days... Archiving just in case.

This one HAS comments, will edit some below, maybe:

I’m a year post op so you can hear it’s not “just healing and swelling process”
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Preemptive explanation for comments it expect but never came. Ais she knows the gaslighting is incoming.

he also trapped 2 nerves during the surgery, and I lost all movement in 2 places and was terrified I was going to lose sensation forever. Thankfully with care and rest and time, I fully recovered full sensation and movement in both areas! It took months. He did not do much to reassure me, nor did he ever afterwards check in with how that was going. As I say below- his team have never once checked in since I was in the emergency room
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What I was disgusted by was the complete negligence with regard to post op care. And the horrific treatment I received, after they had taken my money. It felt as though as soon as the surgery was done, they gave up giving a care about you. Not only that, they gaslit and berated me.
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Surgeon cashed in, now it is public healthcare system's problem

I was writing this post as I read but, just let me show some choice quotes that highlight the BUTCHERY that is going on with these delusional pooners and the surgeons cashing in on it.

My catheter was not emptied despite my partner repeatedly asking (in the UK it is legal post op care to monitor output, so clearly they did not care if I was peeing and how much), to the point where it burst over and spilled pee all over the floor, and my partner had to grab something to pour it into. The nurse came in, huffed, emptied the bag, and LEFT THE PEE ON THE FLOOR!!!
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kept telling me pain and swelling is normal and didn’t run any obs or tests during post op appointments. At no point did they remove the compression gear fully to look at my body. They just pulled a bit back and pulled the stitches out.
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<OP proceeds to describe 6 months of absolute healthcare agony, sepsis, and a close call with the Creator. NHS money well spent>
And have I heard from the team in Spain since the night of gaslighting? NO! Not a single message, email, follow up, nothing! If I had died they wouldn’t know! I have STILL not heard a single thing!!!
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Oof, I'm starting to feel sorry for this poor soul...
I’m not saying don’t go here.
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Bitch YOU ALMOST DIED! How can you NOT say "don't come here! It is a trap!"
 
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