Forgotten / Memory-holed Psyops - What things do you believe were pushed heavily into public consciousness only to be forgotten that they were pushed at all?

"Jack Leon Ruby", the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, who killed JFK, was named Jacob Rubenstein. He was Jewish and owned a nightclub.
 
Acid rain and CFC were a problem.
Global warming is in no way 90% caused by humans. So the huge amount of climate hysteria was unnecessary. And it is an exaggerated problem.
Greenhouse gas is real. Climate change is real. It is caused by our carbon dioxide emissions.
We used to have snow on the ground, this time of year. My daffodils started sprouting before Christmas, and they're in full bloom now. My geraniums in pots by my door never stopped flowering - 10 years ago, just being by the house wouldn't have been enough, Now it is.
My lawn is overgrown., Get a farmer's almanac, it's too early to mow the grass.
This week it was 18C (64F). There have always been strange temperature variations, long before the Industrial Revolution - but not like this,
 
Greenhouse gas is real. Climate change is real. It is caused by our carbon dioxide emissions.
We used to have snow on the ground, this time of year. My daffodils started sprouting before Christmas, and they're in full bloom now. My geraniums in pots by my door never stopped flowering - 10 years ago, just being by the house wouldn't have been enough, Now it is.
My lawn is overgrown., Get a farmer's almanac, it's too early to mow the grass.
This week it was 18C (64F). There have always been strange temperature variations, long before the Industrial Revolution - but not like this,
I used to be scared by gw, but I realized how much of the theory behind it is based on the belief humans are 90% responsible, not because they proved in laboratory conditions what happens, but because of pretty much assuming that.

It is true that it is slightly warmer, but you can't blame humans for that. It could be many variable conditions, like cloud albedo, solar activity.

Do you also realize how contradictory are those that scream climate apocalypes or those WEF-ites? Importing immigrants. Installing renewables instead of using nuclear energy. The industry being called green and receiv8ng green awards by those WEF-ites despite planned obsolence getting much much worse. Switching production to 3rd world countries and forcing African countries to live in poverty?

I hope you arent really one of those WEF-ites that subscribes to net zero, rationing meat, rationing resources, baning. Or using bovaer on cattle.

But I notice that british people in general really really believe that climate change should be stopped at any cost. Dont know why are you so cucked regarding this. You can be a environmentalist while not subscribing to the mainstream ghg narrative. Without too much powerleveling, I am a bird enthusiast and I care about them living well. I am also not content with the 8dea of using wild birds as pets unless they really know how to make those birds happy, like parrots and not living all their life in a cage. And for one I would like less coal to be burned in power plants, not because of ghg hysteria, but because of them being dirty in general and having cheaper and cleaner options like lng or nuclear or oil.
But if we can make coal plants cleaner, then we shouldnt give up on them.
 
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Greenhouse gas is real. Climate change is real. It is caused by our carbon dioxide emissions.
We used to have snow on the ground, this time of year. My daffodils started sprouting before Christmas, and they're in full bloom now. My geraniums in pots by my door never stopped flowering - 10 years ago, just being by the house wouldn't have been enough, Now it is.
My lawn is overgrown., Get a farmer's almanac, it's too early to mow the grass.
This week it was 18C (64F). There have always been strange temperature variations, long before the Industrial Revolution - but not like this,
Also this winter was colder than in 1990s where i live. The warming you notice is not influenced by just 1.5C degrees.

Without that warming, you would have 15C instead of 18C. Not 0C. You really have a rosy view of how it was in the past. Also the almanacs only show that there is slight warming, not that humans caused it.

To also add, there has been proven that in the middle ages it was hotter, and recently there have been found tree trunks from 10k years ago under ice, proving again that at least 10k years ago there were trees on the same spot, meaning that it was warmer than today.
 
I hope you arent really one of those WEF-ites that subscribes to net zero, rationing meat, rationing resources, baning. Or using bovaer on cattle.
No. I think the psyop is large corporations trying to frame this as a consumer choice matter. I don't think net zero is realistic in our lifetimes, but practically speaking we're going to need to come up with a fossil fuel alternative because we will eventually run out, probably sooner than we think. However the best option there is nuclear, which seems to be subject to its own psyop.
Also this winter was colder than in 1990s where i live. The warming you notice is not influenced by just 1.5C degrees.
That's 1.5C global average, not just that it's 1.5C warmer where I live. It means more heat energy in the atmosphere, which in turn leads to more extreme weather events (both hot and cold, as well as stormy). There's a genuine risk that the Atlantic conveyor could collapse, at which point Europe would freeze - Rome's on the same latitude as Chicago, London's the same latitude as Calgary.
To also add, there has been proven that in the middle ages it was hotter, and recently there have been found tree trunks from 10k years ago under ice, proving again that at least 10k years ago there were trees on the same spot, meaning that it was warmer than today.
Yes, I'm familiar. They grew wine in Linconshire in Ancient Roman times. And they've actually started doing it again! In fact, wine producers in Champagne are starting to buy up vineyards in Kent, because Kent has the same terroir and is increasingly more suitable for their grapes than the Champagne region itself, which is starting to get too hot. But if temperatures leveled out now, it wouldn't be a big deal. I quite like hot summers. But it's not levelling out
During the anthropocene - which is to say an era of complex society and urbanisation - we've generally not gotten super hot. There are large cities and agricultural areas that may suddenly become uninhabitable or unfarmable as a direct result of climate change. If you're thinking "well I don't really care if New Delhi becomes too hot for people to live in" - where do you think all those people are going to go? Your government will let them in. If there's famines from farmland dying, we're insulated enough in the West for now that they won't directly starve people, not right away - but our groceries will go up, our bills will go up, all our expenses will go up more. And of course, the famine struck regions will be flooding your borders, wherever you are.Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door...
One of the biggest issues isn't just climate change itself. It's the rate of climate change.
There is zero proof of climate changes being entirely, or even majority caused by carbon dioxide emissions.
Well then it seems like a massive weird coincidence that it's just skyrocketed since the Industrial Revolution...
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It kind of feels like "anthropogenic climate change isn't real, this is just the climate naturally changing like it always does, it's got nothing to do with people" is a psyop engineered by Big Petroleum that a lot of people buy into as a cope to avoid confronting reality.
 
Well then it seems like a massive weird coincidence that it's just skyrocketed since the Industrial Revolution...
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It kind of feels like "anthropogenic climate change isn't real, this is just the climate naturally changing like it always does, it's got nothing to do with people" is a psyop engineered by Big Petroleum that a lot of people buy into as a cope to avoid confronting reality.
on geological timescales 20,000 years is basically nothing and is especially suspect because around ~10,000 years ago the earth had a climate catastrophe during the younger dryas due to massive quantities of ice melt disrupting ocean currents. nigga post the rest of the graph
 
on geological timescales 20,000 years is basically nothing and is especially suspect because around ~10,000 years ago the earth had a climate catastrophe during the younger dryas due to massive quantities of ice melt disrupting ocean currents. nigga post the rest of the graph
Sure, here's "the rest of the graph"
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If we compare the last (reconstructed) spike to the current one
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Notice how it basically looks like it's going straight up right at the end, there? Really noticeably in the last 100 years? That's just a coincidence, is it?
The disruption during the Younger Dryas was the exact same thing I talked about in my comment with the Atlantic Conveyor and London being on the same latitude as Calgary. We're not coming out of an ice age so there shouldn't be a massive albedo flip - although it's theorised it may have been caused by a meteor impact. Either way "this happened in the Younger Dryas" - not to this extent, not to this level of warmth, not this quickly and also that was still pretty bad for humans in places like Europe. And that's before we had agriculture and were largely nomadic hunter gatherers who would move on if the pickings got slim - you can imagine how much worse it would be for a highly complex urbanised society reliant on agriculture that exceeds the baseline carrying capacity of a region.
If you're trying to argue a massive highly fast paced temperature shift is just something that happens, we're still screwed as a society, but it would be good if you could say what you think is causing this sudden shift in climate if it's not anthropogenic. No, it's not solar activity, there's no correlation there
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Ignoring climate change is a psyop you're falling for.
 
"Climate change," is a funny thing because the climate absolutely is changing. But it's super funny to me that the seasons seem to have shifted, is all. Winter starts later and, therefore, ends later. It's hotter later into the year as a result, so people freak out about warm, "winter," days, but winter hasn't actually started, in nature, yet. Then they get all upset about how freezing cold it is late March/early April and they seem to forget that the actual consistently cold temperatures didn't start until mid to late December.

Don't know how it is where some of you all are living, but that's how it is, here. Just seasons shifted about a month or two, otherwise the same overall. It's weird but I highly doubt it's because I'm eating meat or driving a gas powered car.
 
Sure, here's "the rest of the graph"
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If we compare the last (reconstructed) spike to the current one
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Notice how it basically looks like it's going straight up right at the end, there? Really noticeably in the last 100 years? That's just a coincidence, is it?
The disruption during the Younger Dryas was the exact same thing I talked about in my comment with the Atlantic Conveyor and London being on the same latitude as Calgary. We're not coming out of an ice age so there shouldn't be a massive albedo flip - although it's theorised it may have been caused by a meteor impact. Either way "this happened in the Younger Dryas" - not to this extent, not to this level of warmth, not this quickly and also that was still pretty bad for humans in places like Europe. And that's before we had agriculture and were largely nomadic hunter gatherers who would move on if the pickings got slim - you can imagine how much worse it would be for a highly complex urbanised society reliant on agriculture that exceeds the baseline carrying capacity of a region.
If you're trying to argue a massive highly fast paced temperature shift is just something that happens, we're still screwed as a society, but it would be good if you could say what you think is causing this sudden shift in climate if it's not anthropogenic. No, it's not solar activity, there's no correlation there
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Ignoring climate change is a psyop you're falling for.
My issue with the climate change narrative is that its incoherent and has no solution other than "degrade your current way of life while still allowing 3rd world shitholes to pollute". Our emissions were vastly (30-40%) reduced during covid and it only required the near complete halt in our economies, the stunting of our children, less freedom, and the depression of the masses.

Climate change caused by humans is very likely real but I dont buy into the solutions I'm being sold.
 
My issue with the climate change narrative is that its incoherent and has no solution other than "degrade your current way of life while still allowing 3rd world shitholes to pollute". Our emissions were vastly (30-40%) reduced during covid and it only required the near complete halt in our economies, the stunting of our children, less freedom, and the depression of the masses.

Climate change caused by humans is very likely real but I dont buy into the solutions I'm being sold.
I completely agree. I think trying to control how Westerners live their lives while somewhere like China can coalmaxx is indicative that the PTB do not give a shit about climate change, and just want to use it as a demoralisation/control mechanism.
 
There is zero proof of climate changes being entirely, or even majority caused by carbon dioxide emissions.
Me when I'm retarded and/or lying for attention.
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

And keep in mind, I'm on board with the fact that deranged leftists are hypocrites (save the planet by importing negroidic indians??), but I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bath water. Do you really think you could have something as drastic as the industrial revolution and not have the planet face any consequences?
 
I wonder if geologically estimating temperature over thousands of years could filter out short-term fluctuations and result in a misleading graphic when plotted alongside more accurate, higher resolution info
 
I wonder if geologically estimating temperature over thousands of years could filter out short-term fluctuations and result in a misleading graphic when plotted alongside more accurate, higher resolution info
I get what you're saying, that there might have been similar extremely rapid temperature spikes that aren't showing up in the geological record, barring things like the Younger Dryas and the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum. You'd probably expect to see evidence of this in the fossil record, but sure, hypothetically there could have been comparable temperature spikes and we've just never found evidence of it. That's pretty much impossible to disprove, in the same way it's impossible to disprove that an alien spaceship visited Earth 100,000 years ago and then left without a trace.

But ok. What mechanism caused these hidden temperature spikes, and what's causing this one?
 
climate change is a trojan horse for an entire broad category of environmentally conscious merchandise that the average person likely wouldn't give a shit about otherwise. Its something everyone has been trained to use as an excuse for things, kind of like everybody used covid as an excuse for why their resturant was out of cup lids. Its not a specifically retarded idea but the collective notion that there's a problem that can be solved at the individual level by buying a bunch of bamboo drinking straws from a company that ordered them from Shanghai really betrays what's going on
 
But ok. What mechanism caused these hidden temperature spikes, and what's causing this one?
Its caused by whatever causes it, its not really relevant

The industrial revolution coincided with widespread semi-accurate temperature measurements, so the two necessarily started around the same time. The ability to have a industrial revolution also implies accurate temperature measurements to an extent. The beginning of industry coincides with the spike because the new source of data and the industry are the same thing, they are coincident.

If temperature were swinging down at the time instead, it would most likely also be called anthropogenic global cooling, as they initially thought was the case in the mid 20th century. You have no defense against the fact that that is most likely what you would be saying.

The fact is, the super pro-human-caused crowd is extremely antisocial and does little to nothing to justify its beliefs. I have tried to collect peanuts out of the turd over the years IE go out of my way to cobble together my own understanding based on what they say and what they point to, and it points to a lot of people buying into marketing and knowing little to nothing about what they are talking about.
 
Overpopulation.
Nobody has ever been able to accurately predict the birthrate for any country beyond 5 years and nobody is autistic enough to sort through multimillion page census records to spot shit like social security and pension fraud.
 
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