🐮 Lolcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / Russell Greee / Russle / Brothel Prince / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

Billy Beeple said:
Schaefer has said he's behind on HOA dues because of Russ's non-payment of rent. I think he needs the money from a real renter, and is highly motivated to find one ASAP
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For all we know, Schaefer may already have a new tenant lined up. Here's hoping he learned from his experience with Greee and actually put some effort into the vetting process this time.
 
DavidS877 said:
The problem with the IFP application is he hasn't served the defendant. It seems it's actually pretty easy to serve the defendant for $10 or so since he hasn't yet consented to be served electronically in this case.
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A funny detail I noticed is in this filing a few pages back:
Useful_Mistake said:
Oh, it does have some new stuff!
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Note the green text box in the screenshot - Russell is saying "plwese gimme your mailing address so I can serve you".

I think that was Russell's  only attempt at serving Mr Schafer, and his MO suggests when he is faced with an obstacle, he goes and files it anyway, leaving the clerks to either pencil-whip it into shape or outright reject it.
 
Accept Only Substitutes said:
I don’t know, I found The Nevada Behavioral Health Policy Board website on involuntary holds, and they say that “Formerly known as a “Legal Hold” or “Legal 2000”, mental health crisis holds are used when a person appears to be in a mental health crisis. This means that they meet criteria for “substantial likelihood of serious harm” to themselves or others due to mental illness. In this situation they may be held involuntarily in a healthcare facility for evaluation, observation, and treatment for up to 72 hours.”
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Isn't there a substantial likelihood of serious harm to me because of the mental state of the greeemonster?
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
How much spergery are we expecting to hit the docket in his eviction case come the opening of the court on Monday?
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There's at least another "emergency" filing from Friday, but it's not out of the question for Greer to have a complete meltdown over it not being docketed and have submitted additional filings over the weekend, but he's also dealing with multiple filings from Hardin in the Greer v. Moon case and has a hearing coming up in his Viatron lawsuit so he may not have enough tokens for that.

Prokhor Zakharov said:
Honestly, if I was Schafer, I'd have a friend sign a lease and "move" into the room just to say it is already occupied. When dealing with someone like Greer who lies, cheats, steals, threatens, harasses, etc... with impunity, fighting fair just leaves you at a disadvantage. If you don't level the playing field, no one will do it for you.
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He doesn't need to and will fill the vacancy normally before Russ can figure out why the courts keep rejecting his filings. It could be at least another week of Russ plightdumping on the court before he figures out how to correctly serve everyone. Even if he manages to do that, he'll just fuck something else up and the court doesn't seem like it's willing to put up with Greer's nonsense so it will be rejected for some other reason. If Russ ever does manage to get it right and a judge actually looks at it, there's a good chance that Russ gets told to fuck off anyway.
 
Harvey Danger said:
It might depend on the source and structure. If you get a $5000 student loan through the usual channels and tuition is $4000, you can get the $1000 difference directly to yourself. If he got one of the sketchier loans, basically a normal personal loan that some bank slapped "for students" on top without really changing the terms, the whole amount might go to him.
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The student loan system in the States sounds like it could desperately use some regulation, or at least some enforcement of the current regulations . Though I guess there's fat chance of that happening while lenders keep signing up new suckers for a lifetime's worth of debt slavery.

In my country, student loans are tightly controlled. They're administered by the tax office, the student never sees a cent of the money as it's paid directly to the educational institution, and it's repaid by way of payroll deduction once the student starts working and hits a certain income threshold.

On the flipside, the debt is indexed with inflation. This is OK if you've finished Uni and you're now in a six-figure job as your payroll deductions would exceed the indexation of the debt, but if you bounce around from low-paid job to low-paid job, you'll be stuck with it forever. It's not all bad news: any outstanding student loan debt is forgiven when you die, so it's one less thing your estate has to worry about.
 
In the 0.00000000000000000000001% chance Greer prevails, which he won't, the court still isn't going to order him back into the property, at best they might give him damages.

Which should then offset what he owes the landlord for the months he did live there if he gets sued but he's not going to get a cash payout out of it.
 
Pee Cola said:
The student loan system in the States sounds like it could desperately use some regulation, or at least some enforcement of the current regulations
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Everyone involved in Student Loan industry has no intention of fixing it. As soon as College Loans became guaranteed by the government, the cost of college skyrocketed - As always, whenever the government starts paying for shit.
 
Goofy Logic said:
A funny detail I noticed is in this filing a few pages back:

Note the green text box in the screenshot - Russell is saying "plwese gimme your mailing address so I can serve you".

I think that was Russell's  only attempt at serving Mr Schafer, and his MO suggests when he is faced with an obstacle, he goes and files it anyway, leaving the clerks to either pencil-whip it into shape or outright reject it.
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He actually asked for his e-mail, so he was still attempting to service via e-mail, which won't cut it since he never consented to service by e-mail. Greeee knows his mailing address, he was living in the same condo as the guy.
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
He actually asked for his e-mail, so he was still attempting to service via e-mail, which won't cut it since he never consented to service by e-mail. Greeee knows his mailing address, he was living in the same condo as the guy.
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Ah, but as we've seen from Greeeee v. Moon, the Court may not be aware that there's a cost implication to that.

I'M POOR AS FUCK YUH ONNA
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
Honestly, if I was Schafer, I'd have a friend sign a lease and "move" into the room just to say it is already occupied. When dealing with someone like Greer who lies, cheats, steals, threatens, harasses, etc... with impunity, fighting fair just leaves you at a disadvantage. If you don't level the playing field, no one will do it for you. I have no doubt some people would see this as morally dubious. I say it's ensuring a fair fight when the other side has no intention of fighting fair.
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Nah. The judge gave him total victory including forced eviction. He needs the court on his side. Fraud completely burns that bridge and gives them a reason to help Greer. He's doing it right and doesn't need to fuck it up now.
 
Prokhor Zakharov said:
he was living in the same condo as the guy.
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servicing between greer and his lourd o' land
 
Pee Cola said:
The student loan system in the States sounds like it could desperately use some regulation, or at least some enforcement of the current regulations . Though I guess there's fat chance of that happening while lenders keep signing up new suckers for a lifetime's worth of debt slavery.
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The US had a properly functioning Student Loan system for generations. Than Obama more or less nationalized it. There used to be hardcore means tests and credit approval. They didn't just hand out free money. Schools would put together reasonable aid packages. But at the end of the day you had to go to a school you could afford. Obama stripped all that away and made it impossible to turn down any student loans. It was just an embezzlement scheme underwritten by the taxpayers. Kids were saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt that all went into the pockets of college administrators without giving back an appropriate level of education or functional life skills. Tuition prices skyrocketed in order to suck money out of the system and make it so every student had to take out the loans. Obama has literally sent 2 generations of Americans into indentured servitude in pursuit of Gender Studies degrees.
 
Sir Dank-a-Lot said:
Even the simplest of creatures will stop banging into a wall once they realize that it's an exercise in futility. Mr. Greee on the other hand is an interesting creature. He's so confidently incorrect that he keeps banging into those walls thinking that he somehow has the magic method that will allow him to walk through them. No matter how many L's this moron takes, he just comes back for more, to the point where it leaves him homeless. It would be sort of tragic if it weren't for the fact that he's a narcissistic asshole.
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Most lower order critters use their mouth as their primary tactile sensory organ. He simply cannot feel the pain through his paralyzed face. All he knows is "lemme smash"
 
RodgerDodger said:
The US had a properly functioning Student Loan system for generations. Than Obama more or less nationalized it. There used to be hardcore means tests and credit approval. They didn't just hand out free money. Schools would put together reasonable aid packages. But at the end of the day you had to go to a school you could afford. Obama stripped all that away and made it impossible to turn down any student loans. It was just an embezzlement scheme underwritten by the taxpayers.
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In Australia, student loans (aka HECS or HELP) have guaranteed approval assuming one is admitted to an accredited tertiary institution, however they are very tightly controlled as I mentioned in my earlier post. imo a government-administered student loan system isn't a complete disaster if run properly. Nor is a privatised system if it's properly regulated.

That being said, it's not all skittlebrau here either.

Some of the less reputable private institutions sign students up for bullshit courses that are horrendously overpriced and leave the student thousands of dollars in debt with little to show for it and they're usually owned by pajeets. It's nowhere nearly as widespread as student loan fraud appears to be in the States, but no matter how well-intentioned a student loan program is, there's always someone who'll go full Somali Daycare on that shit.

It really sounds like the Obama administration took the worst of both government and privately-run student loan systems and decided that was precisely what America needed.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Honestly who would not consider an hero'ing after a week like Greee has had.
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A normal, well-adjusted person certainly would consider suicide if life dumped that much shit on them, but Greer is neither of those things. He isn't capable of connecting his own actions and the consequences of them. Even if he were, his narcissism prevents him from attributing any of the blame to himself. For Russ, life is just as unfair today as it was the day before, but he's going to file a lawsuit that will fix it all and then he's going to start his brothel.

To anyone else this looks like underpants gnomes levels of thinking, but to Greer this perfectly reasonable plan. The intermediary steps are something that he'll figure out how to deal with when he gets there and it never crosses his mind that he's incapable despite failing every other time. Any normal, well-adjusted person would have long ago realized that this clearly isn't working out and would have given up and gone on to do something else. They wouldn't be having the kind of week the Greer is having without the worst kind of luck imaginable because they wouldn't try to extort their employer, stop paying rent, and embroil themselves in multiple lawsuits at the same time.

Greer is having the day that he deserves.
 
Not to shit up the thread, but we went from "It's Over, his retardation is too strong to lose this case" to fanfictioning the method which he'd kill himself over his inevitable loss (102% liklihood) or betting on how stubborn his continuing retardation is in the face of a $75,000++ debt personally to The Hardship. Personally, I think we're in for at least another 1.5 years of the court slow walking this to trial with unethical and illegal extensions of time to desperately try and help the Plaintiff, so don't get too excited.

...do any lawyers here have these kinds of discussion at their practice when talking over interesting cases like this?
 
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