Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

Captain Syrup said:
Hey @Curzon Dax-sama, you’ve got a way better memory than I do, remind me: were the Na’kuhl another faction in the Temporal Cold War, or were they a different time-travel mob with their own agenda?
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They were their own independent little group that refused to bend the knee to the all so wise, all so enlightened future-Federation enforcing the Temporal Accords on them. Their leader Vosk had the rather based belief that time travel can and should be used for the benefit of his people.
 
NeoTrekker said:
To be fair the bajorans stuff is essily the worst thing in ds9, i lobe most of the show but bajoran culture/history/religion episodes are such a bore
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The problem with the Bajorans is they were created to serve a specific purpose in TNG and then became a focal point in DS9, but it felt like the writers didn't know how to worldbuild for the Bajorans. Their lore is kind of disjointed. Even the Cardassians suffer. There's no explanation of how the Cardassians became a spacefaring race and even became an empire when their home planet was canonically described as exhausted of resources.
 
ATTENTION KIWI FARMS POSTERS:
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The Temporal Cold War was the worst story arc of any series of Star Trek. If you think it's better than the Bajoran politics or Maquis arcs I will fill this thread with Enestrazine gas. You have seven minutes to comply.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
They were their own independent little group that refused to bend the knee to the all so wise, all so enlightened future-Federation enforcing the Temporal Accords on them. Their leader Vosk had the rather based belief that time travel can and should be used for the benefit of his people.
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I like how Vosk is a nuanced villain and not just a Generic Time Nazi screaming “YOU’LL NEVER HAVE EXISTED!!!”, only to get ventilated by Steve Schirripa.

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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
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Gul Dukat, your opinion about the Temporal Cold War has been found to be incorrect by Cardassian Central Command. It is the opinion of Central Command that Quark's tranny episode is far worse. I have begun the self-destruct countdown for this thread.
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Can you wait with the auto-destruct sequence until I've recovered my booze reserves?
 
Since I got too far behind on the thread, did I miss any green text adventures?
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
The Temporal Cold War was gay and retarded and no writer could ever save it. If Enterprise kept going they would have involved David Tennant's Doctor. Would you really want the massive faggot Russel T Davis writing Star Trek? Don't @ me, you know I'm right.
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SFDebris in his review of Voyager's finale (sorry I can't timestamp) proposed an idea on how the finale could have worked AND set up the temporal cold war...

It's the closest I've seen any come. The problem is the writers had literally no plans for it, nor apparently any thought as to how a cold war would actually work (in general, much less across time).
 
Flexo said:
It's the closest I've seen any come. The problem is the writers had literally no plans for it, nor apparently any thought as to how a cold war would actually work (in general, much less across time).
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They should have read Asimov. He's written a story about humanity fucking with time in the early 1950s, and that plot went about as well as you'd think for humanity in that book: they went extinct, because they focused on manicuring the precious timeline and totally ignored investing resources into serious space exploration. When they finally figured out FTL-drives, the galaxy already was colonized by the younger races. Yes, I watched the Feral Historian vid that dropped today, lol. And yes, I read “The End of Eternity".
 
LAST TIME ON STAR TREK: GREEN TEXT
> "Nyaa! Ensign Weeb, notice me!"
> "Helm is unresponsive, sir! There's dildos suctioned all over my screen!"
> *A security chief with an eye patch is rocking back and forth under a tree.* "The fucking Cardies and Jemmies are in the trees!"
> "Help! All My Classmates Are Reincarnated Catgirls and I’m the Only Man!:II Futanari Monster Girl Horny Attack!"
> Why are the lights on the same network as the fucking interior sensors?
AND NOW THE CONTINUATION...

>be me, Lt. relaxing with the Security Chief of DS8 in the O Club.
>"I'm telling you, Lt., the CO of that Marine squad that came through last week looked just like the woman from the Vulcan Love Slave holoseries!"
>I shudder at the mention of a degenerate holoprogram. The moans of horny cat girls still haunt my dreams.
>"Speaking of gooners..." I say quietly as I watch the station's CO and her gooner son walk up, his inability to make eye contact with me after seeing him getting spit-roasted by futanari monster girls obvious.
>the CO wants us to turn Saucer 6 into an artist colony for her gooner son and his friends. gross
>the Security Chief swallows visibly and moves his eye patch to his other eye and leans towards the captain. "That saucer ain't right, cap'n! I've lost five of my best, well, not best, more like decent, men down there with no trace."
>the captain raises her hand and tells him to stop being superstitious. it's the 24th century, we ain't got time for ghost stories. i sigh and tell her i'll talk to Chief Engineer QT3.14 about it.
>brief Chief QT3.14, as suspected Saucer 6 is 2spooky4me for her. she gives me that fucking smile again and says her symbiote thinks Saucer 6 is beyond 2spooky4me, it's 3spooky5me.
>have to remind myself her last five hosts were dudes so docking my runabout in her docking ring would be gay.
>meet Security Chief at 0700 at the only working door for Saucer 6. He's got his eye patch over his bad eye, a phaser rifle in his hands, and a necklace of ketracel white tubes. He hands me a phaser rifle.
>"remember, the Jemmies can cloak but there's always a slight shimmering effect. if you see something weird, shoot it." great, he's having Dominion War flashbacks again.
>he opens the door and we walk in. there's a few crates here and there in the hallway, nothing spooky or weird. the wall panels are black, not the beige or stainless durasteel of normal Galaxy-class saucer sections.
>we spend the next two hours scanning the hallways and quarters, nothing. i do notice weird emblems of a sword going through Earth here and there. i've seen those somewhere before...
>we get to the bridge and i start trying to restore power. why dafuq did Starfleet build a station with six saucer sections and not use one of them?
>i restore power, lights come on, consoles power up. they're all displaying that sword through the Earth emblem. where have i seen that before?
>try my security code to unlock the consoles, nothing. Chief tries his, nothing. he tries another code which fails. a stern looking asian man in a black uniform appears on every screen and console.
>"Attention all Terrans aboard the ISS Yamato, the non-Terrans have taken over the ship. Level one non-Terran cleansing procedures are in full effect."
>why the fuck and how the fuck did Starfleet use a saucer section from a mirror universe Galaxy class ship to build a space station?
>I rip open a panel and start pulling out and plugging back in isolinear chips. that works in this universe 80% of the time, let's hope it works in the mirror universe.
>the screens flicker, "Attention all non-Terrans aboard the ISS Yamato. You are still rebelling. Surrender now or we will begin purging all non-Terran life in two minutes."
>fuck fuck fuck! i start pulling and plugging back in isolinear chips faster.
>"Attention non-Terrans. By the grace of the Emperor you have surrendered. The leaders of your uprising will be executed quickly and efficiently."
>Chief and I get the fuck out of Saucer 6 asap.
>we brief the captain about what we found. she frowns, more angry we can't turn Saucer 6 into a playpen for her worthless gooner "artist" son than the fact there's a saucer section of a mirror universe ship welded onto DS8.
>i walk into my quarters, the lights won't turn on. FFFFUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKK
>"Lt., it's been awhile. Section 31 needs to know what you know about what you found today." i sigh and slump down in a chair. i tell them what little i know.
>my handler frowns. "i guess we'll have to send in another asset to get more information." he transports away. my lights won't turn on, again.
>fuck
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Flexo said:
SFDebris in his review of Voyager's finale (sorry I can't timestamp) proposed an idea on how the finale could have worked AND set up the temporal cold war...

It's the closest I've seen any come. The problem is the writers had literally no plans for it, nor apparently any thought as to how a cold war would actually work (in general, much less across time).
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There are all kinds of stories like that. He also talked about how "Year of Hell" was supposed to span the whole season, but it got squashed down into a two-parter.

For my money, the biggest waste was "Fury". It's another Berman and Braga joint (I reiterate that Braga is the tiniest, most vindictive man alive.)

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The whole thing’s a letdown because the only reason to watch it is to see Seven meet Kes, and it’s over in, what, five seconds? “STATE YOUR INTENTIONS.” I forgot it even happened.

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I'm not even gonna get into Fat Kes. She was clearly called back into action on short notice. But it does set a bad precedent. We can rehire these puffy middle-aged actors and act all chill about it.
 
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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
If Enterprise kept going they would have involved David Tennant's Doctor.
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Reminds me of this fancomic I read where the Doctor has an agreement with Daniels (who he fucking hates) to stay out of the Temporal Cold War.
Captain Syrup said:
So the aliens from "Storm Front" are like a backup plan for the sphere builders.

If the giant Christmas ornament doesn't blow up Earth, reinstall Hitler.
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How the hell is anything involving Hitler and the Nazis not Plan A in an evil scheme?
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
ATTENTION KIWI FARMS POSTERS:
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The Temporal Cold War was the worst story arc of any series of Star Trek.
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I can at least explain the Burn and how it affected the galaxy, but you could put a gun to my head, and I wouldn't be able to even give you the Cliffnotes summary of the Temporal Cold War.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Maybe I should do some greentexts when I have the time.
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Do it. Don't feel like you need to have some sort of cinematic universe with mine or Johnny's green texts.

I feel bad for the dozen or so people who are following me because of my Iran Happenings posting because I'm sure they're awfully confused to see a Star Trek greentext instead of an endless stream of videos of shit blowing up.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
They seem far more enthused about Voyager than they did DS9, but I guess that's pretty common? People seem to either love DS9 and like the rest, or love the rest and like DS9.
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The way I see it, TNG is that feeling when you're younger with no responsibilities, you're still sheltered by your parents and you have an idealistic understanding of the world. DS9 is that feeling when you become a young adult and realise you're on your own and the world is more complicated than you realised. VOY is the sad attempt to regain that youthful naivety by refusing to grow up, but you know that you can never go back to the time you peaked and everything you do you pretend isn't worse.

DS9 was the logical next step for the franchise and they fucked up by not progressing after DS9 being that you have to walk softly but carry a big stick instead of sticking your head in the sand.
 
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