Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

We all tend to think "we should collectively do x" = "x is the responsibility of the government," when that's not always the case. I think there should be more awareness of how to recognize abusive behaviors, but imo it should be mostly grassroots, partly because of what you pointed out about study time. Plus, a lot of awareness campaigns done in high schools can easily backfire because of teenage reverse psychology (D.A.R.E. is one example). The last thing we want is more teen girls dating abusive men because it's seen as cool and rebellious. Making it so they can easily access books and materials on their own would probably do more to help than making them sit through another class.
Yes but grassroots won't reach everywhere, for example we feminists can't reach teenagers from very conservative households. Idk how to solve this problem.
 
Hi, hello, I would just like to say something to the class.

I believe bi women (and straight women) shouldn’t be obligated to date or have sex with bi men, speaking as a bisexual myself. Women in general shouldn’t be obligated to date or fuck any man for whatever reason, and yes this includes sexuality, and just because you share the same sexuality with them shouldn’t really mean shit. Tons of people in the LGBTIAQERTY+++ community will get extremely ass mad though and outright flame, shame, and reprimand you if you’re a woman who says she doesn’t want or desire to date bi men, and a lot of these reactions come from pick-me type women themselves. The woman doesn’t even have to have anything against the bi men personally, just doesn’t want to date them, often out of caring about her health, yet of course people will still treat this as some grave mortal sin and therefore you deserve to burn in the pits of hell for it (hmm, doesn’t that sound familiar). It is not hypocritical to care about and want to protect your health. Even if the reasoning is just as simple as a preference, that still should be respected, just like a White woman who isn’t interested in dating and fucking niggers simply because it’s her preference and she’s not attracted to them. You can’t help what you’re not attracted to. I personally find it extremely understandable to not be attracted to a man who likes to stick it up the dookyhole of another man or receives it up his own dookyhole by another man. Why would a woman want shitdick up in her cooch? Why would a woman risk having her boyfriend fucking all kinds of men in secret? (because that’s often what bi men do in relationships with women) Why would a woman want to gamble that game with her health and having to potentially deal with a life-long disease? When I ask all of this, it honestly makes me not understand women who do actively date and like to date bi men, but you know, that’s them I guess. The only bi people I would be dating and getting in relationships with is other bi women, but of course scrotes will get mad if you don’t always center men in your sexual life and actually have some boundaries and self-respect.

Also notice how men who say they don’t want to date bisexual women usually never get this same type of severe reaction or response from other people. Funny how that works.
 
We all tend to think "we should collectively do x" = "x is the responsibility of the government," when that's not always the case. I think there should be more awareness of how to recognize abusive behaviors, but imo it should be mostly grassroots, partly because of what you pointed out about study time. Plus, a lot of awareness campaigns done in high schools can easily backfire because of teenage reverse psychology (D.A.R.E. is one example). The last thing we want is more teen girls dating abusive men because it's seen as cool and rebellious. Making it so they can easily access books and materials on their own would probably do more to help than making them sit through another class.
I think if you incorporated the information into a curriculum in a way that's more detached and academic rather than a preachy awareness campaign it might work better? Teens don't like being told what to do but often love learning about abnormal psychology, just look at how they all self diagnose with edgy mental illnesses these days.
 
If the parents are really, really conservative, they won't let them go to school either, at least in the US. I'm not sure how it is in Poland.
no, we have homeschooling but that's rather lefty, it's used in two cases a) child takes part in competitions for example sports and doesn't have time for school b) child is too autistic and is in conflict with its retarded teachers. HOWEVER the child will pass regular exams yearly or so maybe twice a year idk from the subject that it would took in the regular school. So you won't be taught whatever, you'll teach yourself the same as non homeschooled kids. I'm surprised you Americans agree to this homeschooling, I know you need freedom in every manner, because otherwise it's literal communism, however your system is created so that a moid can abuse his daughter no problem and she won't be able to try to report abuse.




So man hating. I bought a paint by numbers kit. However after I started doing it it turned out that the kit was broken. Namely it had wrong picture and wrong paints. I think I lost the bill or just didn't want to fuck with returning it, it was a cheap kit anyway. I wanted to ditch it, however my moid friend said no it looks interesting finish this. So I worked on it with 0 pleasure cuz the more I painted the more it looked ugly, but he said he wanted the picture and he'd take it from me. So now I've finished it AND HE SAYS HE WAS FUCKING DRUNK A BIT WHEN HE ASKED ME TO PAINT THIS.
 
of course scrotes will get mad if you don’t always center men in your sexual life and actually have some boundaries and self-respect.
Bi men are extremely selfish and they feel entitled to women's bodies just like any other moid. They are mad that we do not want to entertain disease vectors, men do not care about the health or well being of their partner. Ass fucking is chimpanzee behavior
 
Bi men are extremely selfish and they feel entitled to women's bodies just like any other moid. They are mad that we do not want to entertain disease vectors, men do not care about the health or well being of their partner. Ass fucking is chimpanzee behavior
Truth.

I also posted something similar to my OP in the bisexuality thread in /g/ on lolcow (as I lurk and post there every once in a while), basically asking if there were any other bi nonnas who weren’t attracted to bi men and prefer having nothing to do with them, big reason being health wise, plus being sick and tired of the shaming and reprimanding women get, both bi and straight, when they don’t want to have sex with these men, and another nonna there replied saying that “ssa men being aids machines” was “getting old”…

Uhhh, but it’s literally the truth though? There are like hundreds of statistics out there that will tell you this? How is it “getting old” when the evidence for the claim majorly backs it up? Why are STDs and AIDS in ssa men so high, but very low in ssa women, especially lesbians? Hmm, could it just be that men are often the more degenerate and gross sex in general and that being sexually attracted to men cranks that up to like a 1000?

But I’m assuming a lot of bi nonnas in that bisexuality thread have bi nigels and like to be more “open and accepting” to these scrotes just because they share the same sexuality. Maybe some are fujoshits or cucks and actually like the thought of their men fucking other men. Also not to mention me just getting a bit aggravated by lolcow in general because their “man hate” is what I would like to call “safe man hate”, where they only hate men in a politically correct way, aka straight White men (and yes, this also includes troons, as it’s usually weird straight White men in wigs and dresses). You cannot express frustration with non-White men specifically (no racism allowed obviously), you cannot point out and criticize male immigrants because of their rampant, widespread assault on women and children, there are a ton of faghags and fujoshits on there so you can’t really say anything too un-PC about goids…and these are supposed to be all man-hating TERFs, lol.
 
I'm surprised you Americans agree to this homeschooling, I know you need freedom in every manner, because otherwise it's literal communism, however your system is created so that a moid can abuse his daughter no problem and she won't be able to try to report abuse.
If you look at who in the US homeschools most frequently and critically examine their stated reasons for doing so, it will start to occur to you that maybe the child abuse is the point. See: blanket training and the Duggar pedophile ring. I have to be careful with criticizing homeschooling on this site, because a lot of retards think it will stop their kids from trooning out (it won't), or getting molested by a teacher (they'll get molested by their uncle instead), or learning about critical race theory, or whatever other excuses fundamentalists have come up with to justify keeping their kids away from mandatory reporters.

Edit: @Autistic Sea Lion I completely agree. I will never go anywhere near a dick that's been in a man's butthole (or vice versa), and I don't care how long it's been. I'm not risking it. I don't give a shit if that makes me homophobic or a misandrist or whatever. Even if they somehow find a way to permanently eradicate AIDS, I will still never touch a SSA man's dick because they are literally breeding new STDs as we speak. Men are whores as it is, and two men without the limiting factor of a woman involved are whore squared. I'm fine with them having rights and shit, but that does not include the right to touch me.

It's pretty rich that a group of people who recognize how rapey it is when troons call them transphobic for not wanting to suck gock are unable to recognize how rapey "you must be open to bi men or you're a homophobe" is.
 
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Some of you may have heard about this thing of Japanese and American xitter users being friendly. No surprise it is likely just a thinly veiled excuse for American weebs to lust after Japanese women again.

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We love Japanese women! Unless it's junko furuta, then we make memes mocking her to trigger da libz
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Part of the reason they like Japan so much is because they don't like immigrants, well if they don't like immigrants what makes you think they're going to make exemption for a bunch of sex pest White guys showing up to their country because they think the women are easy to get? Sounds like the Arabs you complain about. It's also funny when some of these guys will talk about how much they love Japanese people while still referring to them as "Japs".
I noticed these guys never glaze South Korea this hard despite it having a similar culture and even similar problems. I wonder if the 4b movement have something to do with that? Do they think that Korean women are all radical feminist or too "Westernized"?

What if they don't talk about Korean women because porn is illegal there? So it's like they don't have that sexualized exposure to women compared to Japan, cause Im sure they're not watching kpop videos. I don't know this might be far fetched, but it is funny to think about.
 
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We love Japanese women! Unless it's junko furuta, then we make memes mocking her to trigger da libz
it's one thing for the left to make fun of charlie kirk, expected for a disgusting mass of dysgenic degenerate, it's a strange thing for the right to do the same to junk furuta even though they have myriad of evil and disgusting people to make fun of (renee good,alex pretti,dean withers,will stancil)
 
Some of you may have heard about this thing of Japanese and American xitter users being friendly. No surprise it is likely just a thinly veiled excuse for American weebs to lust after Japanese women again.

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Part of the reason they like Japan so much is because they don't like immigrants, well if they don't like immigrants what makes you think they're going to make exemption for a bunch of sex pest White guys showing up to their country because they think the women are easy to get? Sounds like the Arabs you complain about. It's also funny when some of these guys will talk about how much they love Japanese people while still referring to them as "Japs".
I noticed these guys never glaze South Korea this hard despite it having a similar culture and even similar problems. I wonder if the 4b movement have something to do with that? Do they think that Korean women are all radical feminist or too "Westernized"?

What if they don't talk about Korean women because porn is illegal there? So it's like they don't have that sexualized exposure to women compared to Japan, cause Im sure they're not watching kpop videos. I don't know this might be far fetched, but it is funny to think about.
>ooga booga muh big white cock
>ooga booga where da asian women at

Literally niggers with white skin
 
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I also posted something similar to my OP in the bisexuality thread in /g/ on lolcow (as I lurk and post there every once in a while), basically asking if there were any other bi nonnas who weren’t attracted to bi men and prefer having nothing to do with them, big reason being health wise, plus being sick and tired of the shaming and reprimanding women get, both bi and straight, when they don’t want to have sex with these men, and another nonna there replied saying that “ssa men being aids machines” was “getting old”…

Uhhh, but it’s literally the truth though? There are like hundreds of statistics out there that will tell you this? How is it “getting old” when the evidence for the claim majorly backs it up? Why are STDs and AIDS in ssa men so high, but very low in ssa women, especially lesbians? Hmm, could it just be that men are often the more degenerate and gross sex in general and that being sexually attracted to men cranks that up to like a 1000?
It's pretty rich that a group of people who recognize how rapey it is when troons call them transphobic for not wanting to suck gock are unable to recognize how rapey "you must be open to bi men or you're a homophobe" is.
Male and female approaches to sexuality are so incompatible that they cancel out whatever a woman would get from a mixed-sex bi community. Bi women community far away from bi men community > mixed community with "obligations" to pretend bi men are somehow less degenerate than all the other men.

I wish there was a bigger bi-specific community for women. When I was a single bi, there was this feeling of being split between two different spaces and belonging in neither of them. While that's over now for me personally, I think it'd benefit a lot of bi women to simply be able to talk to each other about our experiences without, say, the constant looming presence of bi men doing man behaviors (and its stain on the optics of the community). It also feels weird to do that in general SSA women spaces because it's like we're not supposed to mention men/OSA - like, that's the whole point of it existing, because it's a women's SSA space.

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Every time online men (particularly rightoids) open their mouths to denounce porn, I can't take them at their word that they're not actually watching porn and trying to deal with the cognitive dissonance. Like, how often does a male member of the online right attack porn on the basis that most of the content involves trafficked women, or videos uploaded without one party's consent (e.g. revenge porn), or videos uploaded without either party's consent (e.g. hotel spy cams)? Or that most of the actresses who are "freely" participating were molested as girls and "sex work" is a maladaptive and predictable way of coping with that trauma? No, it's always:
  • your dick won't work
  • porn can "groom" fetishes into you, including same-sex attraction and AGP
  • gooning addiction ruins your dopamine circuitry
  • religious reasons that are very concerned with his integrity and avoidance of corruption but not at all concerned with the well-being of anyone made to suffer in the production of porn
And it's not like any of those bullets are categorically wrong. I'd admittedly rather have men organizing against porn for self-centered reasons than men not organizing at all. But it makes me MATI when they act like it's some big revelation that someone is psychologically harmed by porn. Could anyone be harmed by porn besides its viewers? Could porn possibly involve physically hurting someone? Would the podcasters debase themselves by researching that mysterious demographic? If they so lower themselves, will they write it off as "it's alright to hurt her if she says you can"?
 
If they so lower themselves, will they write it off as "it's alright to hurt her if she says you can"?
Yes, they would, and they would be insulted that they're expected to care about the sexploitation of women. It's women's fault their dick doesn't work, because those Jezebels got on camera naked. If a deeper dimension exists to the porn industry and it's not 100% a free individual choice to be involved in porn, then the accountability is back on them for seeking out images of exploited women and girls. They would rather blame women for breaking their brains and their dicks than examine their own role as porn consumers and the moral implications that carries.
 
I wish there was a bigger bi-specific community for women. When I was a single bi, there was this feeling of being split between two different spaces and belonging in neither of them. While that's over now for me personally, I think it'd benefit a lot of bi women to simply be able to talk to each other about our experiences without, say, the constant looming presence of bi men doing man behaviors (and its stain on the optics of the community). It also feels weird to do that in general SSA women spaces because it's like we're not supposed to mention men/OSA - like, that's the whole point of it existing, because it's a women's SSA space.
I honestly don’t see why bi women and bi men can’t have their own spaces and communities, but of course having a bi woman only space or community isn’t going to fare well, because look at what the lesbians are currently having to deal with. I hate being lumped in with bi men because despite what people think, bi women and bi men are NOT the same. Like at all. Just like how lesbians and gay men are not the same despite being SSA because, like you pretty much already said, male and female sexuality are different, men and women are different, but apparently this is a really hard concept for some people to comprehend these days. I also always hear about the same old bisexual women being these hypersexual, promiscuous, threesome-wanting whores, buuut doesn’t that actually track with bi men more??
 
Like, how often does a male member of the online right attack porn on the basis that most of the content involves trafficked women, or videos uploaded without one party's consent (e.g. revenge porn), or videos uploaded without either party's consent (e.g. hotel spy cams)?
A simpler way of wording it is that a lot of men against porn center their well-being as a reason vs the women who are directly affected by its consumption. This is a problem with a lot of other issues, they decenter women when it’s the #1 demographic that crimes have been committed against.

For example when it’s a crime that is universally committed against women, men are not as passionate as they should be against it, it is only until some brownoid invades their country that they finally say ‘our white women should not be raped’. Or if it is committed against a young pretty women, they say stuff like “if that were my daughter I would shoot them” they always have to put themselves into a situation as the ones being hurt in order to feel some semblance of empathy toward the women. They can’t admit that their own male gender demographic does bad things because they can’t handle feeling some ounce of guilt.
And it’s so asinine that it’s always the women that is always expected to be guilty about something such as
racism (white women tears)
immigration (when men are also apart of the problem)
sexual assault (you tempted him so you deserve it)
The country going to shit (when there’s never been a female president of majority and leadership is STILL MEN)
And in Abrahamic religion, to avoid any accountability for their own sins, misogynists always gotta bring up that it was the Eve who ate the apple and tempted Adam to eat it as if God didn’t punish BOTH of them. And there’s still a fricken debate on which ones to blame for the fall of mankind when it’s obviously the snake?
Conclusion: I wish that men were as passionate about violence against women as they are about taking away their rights.
 
I bought a paint by numbers kit. However after I started doing it it turned out that the kit was broken. Namely it had wrong picture and wrong paints. I think I lost the bill or just didn't want to fuck with returning it, it was a cheap kit anyway. I wanted to ditch it, however my moid friend said no it looks interesting finish this. So I worked on it with 0 pleasure cuz the more I painted the more it looked ugly, but he said he wanted the picture and he'd take it from me. So now I've finished it AND HE SAYS HE WAS FUCKING DRUNK A BIT WHEN HE ASKED ME TO PAINT THIS.
Fuck letting yourself be pressured like that. You didn't like it; don't do it. If your friend likes it, he can do it. But also remember that sometimes people just say shit (drunk or sober), and it's not on you to please them.
 
We all tend to think "we should collectively do x" = "x is the responsibility of the government," when that's not always the case. I think there should be more awareness of how to recognize abusive behaviors, but imo it should be mostly grassroots, partly because of what you pointed out about study time. Plus, a lot of awareness campaigns done in high schools can easily backfire because of teenage reverse psychology (D.A.R.E. is one example). The last thing we want is more teen girls dating abusive men because it's seen as cool and rebellious. Making it so they can easily access books and materials on their own would probably do more to help than making them sit through another class.
grassroots campaigns never reach the people who actually need it- those who are below average, who have no real hope of figuring out this kind of shit on their own. Such people will never read a book voluntarily in their lives. They have no idea what is going on as adults but 100% of them were in a shitty government school for at least ten years. Schools can't make them smarter, but they could come out of it with something useful. Time and resources are already being spent, it isn't unreasonable to want something practical imparted on the masses. Life skills classes should be brought back, for instance.

Also, they already teach DV education in sex ed, they just don't teach anything useful. They say "you should always feel safe in a relationship, call the abuse hot line if you don't" but by the time you feel afraid for your safety you're in very deep. it does not help that trannies and therapists have made "feeling safe" a completely incoherent concept, to the point where many people don't think of violence at all when they hear the phrase "feeling unsafe". There are so many resources that say everything simply, that it is completely unjustifiable to fuck it up this badly. "If you have an intuition he will hit you some day, he probably will" is not a difficult lesson, and this is something that happens way before you're isolated or pregnant or w/e. " all domestic abusers believe there are situations that justify a man hitting their girlfriend". Simple, true, useful, and moids have such low self-awareness that you can probably get them to admit it early on. "violent men who pretend to lose control never destroy their own belongings, they are faking it because they want an excuse to destroy your things" is probably the 3rd thing I would include. That trifecta cuts through 99% of the bullshit moids pull to condition their girlfriends to accept abuse.
If the parents are really, really conservative, they won't let them go to school either, at least in the US. I'm not sure how it is in Poland.
conservative christian home schoolers represent an extreme minority. poor blacks and hispanics are way more likely to have these problems and they're all in public school.
 
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