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People here keep on saying this, even though it is not true. I think people just want it to be true. Chris will never owe ebay a cent for his failed auctions. Ebay will only ask for it's money if the buyer pays. Ebay owns paypal and requires you to use it, therefore they know whether payment has been made or not before the seller does. Chris is not going to lose any money over this aside from the frame and lamination. Nobody is going to end up being legally required to pay Chris for their bids, either. I've been selling on ebay for years, I know how it works. Just accept that the comedy of seeing Chris getting frustrated is all there is here. He's not financially fucking himself unless he's spending away money on his credit cards in anticipation of what he thinks he'll get for his "art".
Not entirely true; paypal is not always used. I use many different eBay sites and eBay.de in particular loves the use of straight bank transfers because it dodges Paypal fees. I've used it myself as buyer. Usually when you pay for something on eBay, it goes through Paypal and eBay marks the item as 'paid'automatically. But with other methods like bank transfers, eBay has no idea if the seller has been paid or not so the seller must manually mark it as paid. Same thing if you choose to pickup an item and pay cash on collection (also something I've done). eBay does not always know if a seller has been paid, unless they use Paypal or a credit card on file. Because of this, eBay charges fees as soon as the item is sold. Otherwise sellers could accept bank transfers/cash on collection and never mark it as paid, skipping eBay's fees all together. eBay won't risk that, so fees automatically get added onto your account once it sells. Paypal fees are the only fees that get charged when you're actually paid; they take a slice straight out rather than wait and invoice.

Technically, the buyer is legally obliged to pay. To quote eBay themselves;
"When a buyer places the successful bid on an item or clicks "Buy It Now", the two parties will have entered into a legally binding contract (with very few exceptions as detailed in our Non-Binding Bid Policy).The terms of the contract are set out in the seller's listing and in agreeing to buy the goods or services the buyer is accepting those terms." It is rarely ever acted on though, and I'm not sure if it applies to Chris' copyright infringing characters.

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Chris will have to front up that $100 charge unless he opens a case ridiculously early; as in like 4 days after non-payment.
 
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He's not financially fucking himself unless he's spending away money on his credit cards in anticipation of what he thinks he'll get for his "art".

You, me, and the rest of us here know that is exactly what Chris is doing out there right this very minute. He's probably even doing a "MY LOVE QUEST IS FINALLY OVER!" Victory march around the house too.

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As far as I understand in order to buy a buy it now you have to pay it right then and there. CWC may have somehow made 1000 dollars. This doesn't sit right with me if this is true.

Some sellers set their BIN's to pay now if you buy it, others will give you time to pay, especially if you're buying multiple items from the same seller. Sometimes I buy comics, so I may buy several from the same seller and they wait till I tell them I am done buying stuff and then they put it all together in one invoice for me to pay.

If a seller offers free shipping (as was the case when I bought a couple of books from the same seller) I had to pay as I bought each book which was no big deal as they were a super seller with thousands of books in their inventory and good feedback, and it wasn't as if I would save on combined shipping or whatever.

So essentially if Chris had pay now on BIN he could seriously save himself a lot of grief.
 
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So when Chris dies without paying it will the debt go to coleslaw?

Should Chris die tomorrow, his unpaid debts would go to the co-signers of his accounts, in this case, likely Barb. I doubt Cole would do something as idiotic as co-sign for Chris. If Barb dies before him, then the creditors will try to take it out of what is left of Chris's possessions when he dies.
If his things are not worth a red cent because they are covered in crap and broken, then the debt will simply go unpaid. This is the most likely scenario for the final end of the entire CWC Saga.
 
Not entirely true; paypal is not always used. I use many different eBay sites and eBay.de in particular loves the use of straight bank transfers because it dodges Paypal fees. I've used it myself as buyer. Usually when you pay for something on eBay, it goes through Paypal and eBay marks the item as 'paid'automatically. But with other methods like bank transfers, eBay has no idea if the seller has been paid or not so the seller must manually mark it as paid. Same thing if you choose to pickup an item and pay cash on collection (also something I've done). eBay does not always know if a seller has been paid, unless they use Paypal or a credit card on file. Because of this, eBay charges fees as soon as the item is sold. Otherwise sellers could accept bank transfers/cash on collection and never mark it as paid, skipping eBay's fees all together. eBay won't risk that, so fees automatically get added onto your account once it sells. Paypal fees are the only fees that get charged when you're actually paid; they take a slice straight out rather than wait and invoice.

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Chris will have to front up that $100 charge unless he opens a case ridiculously early; as in like 4 days after non-payment.
.... Except Chris only accepted paypal for this transfer. Your "straight bank transfers" theory is shot down. And with "acceptance of bid" instead of BIN, they didn't have to pay now. Chris, of course, isn't shipping the item til he gets the money, which he won't.
 
"The money is basically mine, I will pay some debt but there is other things I need too at this time"

So basically he plans to pay off the monthly minimum, give Snorlax enough for a Q-Sand and then blow the rest on Legos and tranny hookers.
 
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Chris will have to front up that $100 charge unless he opens a case ridiculously early; as in like 4 days after non-payment.

Nope. It's been my experience that ebay only charges seller fees once a month, it takes 7 days after auction to open a non buying bidder case, which then takes 1 day to approve. Chris will not have to front up that $100.

You, me, and the rest of us here know that is exactly what Chris is doing out there right this very minute. He's probably even doing a "MY LOVE QUEST IS FINALLY OVER!" Victory march around the house too.

I'd like to think he's been cursing those Dirty, Dang Trolls non stop for the past 3 fucking days!
 
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People here keep on saying this, even though it is not true. I think people just want it to be true. Chris will never owe ebay a cent for his failed auctions. Ebay will only ask for it's money if the buyer pays. Ebay owns paypal and requires you to use it, therefore they know whether payment has been made or not before the seller does. Chris is not going to lose any money over this aside from the frame and lamination. Nobody is going to end up being legally required to pay Chris for their bids, either. I've been selling on ebay for years, I know how it works. Just accept that the comedy of seeing Chris getting frustrated is all there is here. He's not financially fucking himself unless he's spending away money on his credit cards in anticipation of what he thinks he'll get for his "art".

This.

I buy and sell a grand number of things on eBay, and while it's very much set up in the seller's favour it really is not hard to get refunds for items you sell to non-paying bidders.

If whoever bought Chris' picture is a troll, and a very very clever one, the worst they can do is to get the picture and trick eBay into refunding their money. Chris risks losing the picture, a dollar-store frame, a bunch of sticky tape, the postage fee and all the minutes of his life he spent creating his masterpiece. He will not owe $100s to eBay.

Of course if the troll is clever, there will be much butthurt on Chris' end. But $1000 is a lot to risk on more CWC rage, when so much classic anger is out there for free...
 
.... Except Chris only accepted paypal for this transfer. Your "straight bank transfers" theory is shot down. And with "acceptance of bid" instead of BIN, they didn't have to pay now. Chris, of course, isn't shipping the item til he gets the money, which he won't.
I was using the bank transfer as an example to show that eBay charges fees regardless of if the payment was recieved, sorry if I phrased it funny ^^;
 
I was using the bank transfer as an example to show that eBay charges fees regardless of if the payment was recieved, sorry if I phrased it funny ^^;
And what people are saying is that because he used paypal, and Ebay own paypal, they either won't transfer the fee until he gets the money or it'll be easy for him to get it refunded.
 
Take it as you will, but I have a ween insider who says that 1) Chris has NOT gotten paid yet, 2) Chris claims the violin was "taken off ebay for having a famous name in the title". He's talking about the Strad. Which is dumb..there's like 50 of them listed and or sold daily with that in the title... and 3) Chris has kept with the story a few times that he needs the money to (and I quote directly) "Support my 76 year old mother and we both have a lot of debt". He has also said, "The money is basically mine, I will pay some debt but there is other things I need too at this time". No clue if he means lego or like house payments and living necessities like groceries and clothes.

Of course, this is stuff we already know and or have already assumed. Just thought I'd chime in with stuff I've received.
There is a weeny ween in all of us, it's just about the urge to keep it locked in.

Now THAT is the quote of the day.
 
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