Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

When I talk to women I think are cute I either tend to vacillate between staying really quiet to seem like I'm not obsessed OR I get too excited and talk too much
Which is preferable, which one will make me seem less like a freak to women
Learn to think before you speak and choose your words. Listen to what they say and respond to that with curiosity. Think more about encouraging a dialogue rather than getting out your excitement/ opinion/ thoughts or whatever you started thinking about while they were talking. If you're sincerely (actively) listening (to understand more than to respond or to come across a certain way), you'll naturally have questions or other ways to encourage a back & forth - which both is a matter of the art of conversation and allows you to communicate interest without being a spaz or going to the other extreme. Be present, but be cool. :)

Also: If you find (you didn't say so but just in case) that you're thinking more about whether you agree or have the same/ different opinion about what they're saying, you're likely missing some of what they're saying. And for the love of God don't start poking holes in whatever mundane thing they mention or talk down to them. Yes, you're there in part to evaluate potential compatibility, but thoughtlessly or bluntly criticizing a companion is just rude, in any circumstance. If there's nothing there, keep the meet short, but don't be rude. And if they're rude to you, cut it even shorter. Don't get mad or sulky, just close it out and take your leave at the next natural pause. You can avoid wasting your time but still be gracious (or gentlemanly).
 
Because Bi "people" only see other beings as things to screw.
This makes me very afraid of someone very close to me. When he came out as bi to me i thought that i lost part of him and i inmediately became wary of him because most likely he might either become a demented coomer or a tranny.

Don't trust Bi people
 
This makes me very afraid of someone very close to me. When he came out as bi to me i thought that i lost part of him and i inmediately became wary of him because most likely he might either become a demented coomer or a tranny.

Don't trust Bi people
That's what happened to one of my former friends (was bi, then coomer, then trooned). It sucks.
 
When I talk to women I think are cute I either tend to vacillate between staying really quiet to seem like I'm not obsessed OR I get too excited and talk too much
Which is preferable, which one will make me seem less like a freak to women
I would try to stick with whatever is closer to your natural personality, since you're going to calm down eventually and won't want to be a radically different person.
Women who talk a lot like quieter guys, and quieter women like guys who talk. I would say on average women are fairly talkative, so if you want to strategize based on sheer numbers, being quiet is the way.

a woman with low self esteem might really like that her looks make you nervous. There is a risk of social vulnerability in just straight-up telling her that is your problem, but it may pay off.
 
^YMMV on that one. If I'm talking a lot and not getting much back, I'll assume I'm babbling about some bullshit topic you don't care about (I'm sure the other spergs in the audience can relate). It also feels good to have someone else be interested enough in what you have to say to be engaged and actively contribute to the conversation.

Perhaps a good middle ground is "don't be afraid to speak up when you have something interesting, funny, or helpful to say - otherwise, don't feel like you have to fill dead air. If the other person is talkative, they can fill it if necessary, and silence isn't always bad or awkward."
 
Women who talk a lot like quieter guys
I talk a lot and I like men who also talk a lot. I love talking but I don't want to monologue; I want an actual conversation. Men who talk and don't listen are irritating, but men who rarely talk are boring. It's best if he's an interesting conversationalist, but also a good listener. That combo is rare and wonderful.
 
I talk a lot and I like men who also talk a lot. I love talking but I don't want to monologue; I want an actual conversation. Men who talk and don't listen are irritating, but men who rarely talk are boring. It's best if he's an interesting conversationalist, but also a good listener. That combo is rare and wonderful.
This is probably one of the most valuable things anyone can gain from this thread. Conversation is an exchange. To be able to actively listen and respond to someone constructively and with charm is a sign of a truly cultured individual.
 
This is probably one of the most valuable things anyone can gain from this thread. Conversation is an exchange. To be able to actively listen and respond to someone constructively and with charm is a sign of a truly cultured individual.
This is probably why a lot of people say i'm a cool guy despite my shortcomings. And also the fact i'm so shy i don't know how to break the ice.
 
So women see my lack of conversational skills as autistic instead of cool and mysterious?

It's so over.
 
So women see my lack of conversational skills as autistic instead of cool and mysterious?

It's so over.
I'm not saying this is you, but my theory is that this is why the "sigma male" and "Ryan Gosling is literally me" memes became so prevalent. Its basically just socially inept men rebranding themselves as mysterious, brooding loners when it reality they just come across as socially inept if not straight up autistic. It's not totally fucked though, a bit of confidence and charm really goes a long way with women.
 
What are your thoughts on the smell of aftershave and tobacco?
Aftershave is a no for me. Cigs too
Tobacco before it’s been smoked reminds me of my grandfathers, and I actually quite like that smell, but stale smoke is foul.
I have a very overactive sense of smell and my issue with aftershave is that most of it is hideous and on most men’s skin it smells odd and it also masks how you actually smell.
There are exceptions; sometimes you’ll pass someone and think that’s a nice scent, but generally, most aftershaves don’t smell good when initially applied or as they wear off.
Stale cigarette smoke smells awful. Vape stuff smells bad. The snus stuff smells like a clostridium culture combined with open sewer. Don’t do that.
Some men just smell nice. Which sounds a bit ‘hello Clarice’ but it’s true.
 
Aftershave is a no for me. Cigs too
Tobacco before it’s been smoked reminds me of my grandfathers, and I actually quite like that smell, but stale smoke is foul.
I have a very overactive sense of smell and my issue with aftershave is that most of it is hideous and on most men’s skin it smells odd and it also masks how you actually smell.
There are exceptions; sometimes you’ll pass someone and think that’s a nice scent, but generally, most aftershaves don’t smell good when initially applied or as they wear off.
Stale cigarette smoke smells awful. Vape stuff smells bad. The snus stuff smells like a clostridium culture combined with open sewer. Don’t do that.
Some men just smell nice. Which sounds a bit ‘hello Clarice’ but it’s true.
I figured it reminds some of their dads and is a comforting smell that exudes nostalgia. I personally don't like woman smokers as is just bad for the teeth and makes them rot, it also does something to your pores.

With aftershave I figured it depends on what age demographic of women?
 
I figured it reminds some of their dads and is a comforting smell that exudes nostalgia. I personally don't like woman smokers as is just bad for the teeth and makes them rot, it also does something to your pores.

With aftershave I figured it depends on what age demographic of women?
It depends probably on the aftershave and the man - perfume has different ‘notes’ that linger and change and they depend on how it chemically interacts with your skin. The same scent can smell really different on different people due to this. Most mass market stuff smells unpleasant IMO. Just smell clean.
Mileage will vary on this - plenty of women DO like aftershave.
 
I require counsel in the realm of earrings, specifically pearl ones for the purpose of a nice gift.
Etsy looks promising (and surprisingly affordable) but I don't want to screw it up by getting the jewellery equivalent of gas station flowers, would like to not get too ripped off as well, I now know the difference between Freshwater/Tahiti but I don't know anything about what that actually means... Do I just get the £4.99 shiny ones? Should I splurge on the gold-trimmed £29.99 ones? Brass or Yellow Gold? Zircon looks nice but what is a drop length? Does any of this mean anything?
I have no idea what I'm looking at here, I've never bought female jewellery before in my life (I'm usually a "get yourself something nice" kinda guy) , recommendations? Ideas? HELP
Did you ever get this one worked out? I had a short come up about pearl farming and it reminded me of this.


How they harvest them:

I think pearl farming is neat.
 
Did you ever get this one worked out?
Oh yes, the future of the Kiwi Race is ever so slightly more assured thank you :smug:
I checked out a few different retailers and then @Otterly's suggestion went on sale, it was meant to be, which is why all the wahmen in my life all have some now:ratface:
 
Oh yes, the future of the Kiwi Race is ever so slightly more assured thank you :smug:
I checked out a few different retailers and then @Otterly's suggestion went on sale, it was meant to be, which is why all the wahmen in my life all have some now:ratface:
Oh great! I’m so glad you found it useful. I hope you now have many good boy points from the women in your life. I wear mine most days, they’re a nice mix of simple but classy.
 
Sorry to continuously sperg about dating apps but I have a small but significant update: my god we are so fucked.

Three quarters of the men I've come across are the same: they all look the same, they give all the same surface-level, NPC answers, the same kinds of pictures and "passions" (i.e. eating, drinking, travelling, going to the beach/gym/skiing). A good portion of them are proto-homos, I'm certain they are gay but they haven't accepted it yet or if they are straight I do not understand what's going on with my fellow femoids.

I also came across a couple of guys who said they've just come out of jail (gave me a good chuckle tbh) and some men who I wouldn't be surprised to find out they suffocated their grandmas to steal their pensions.

And, of course, a good few men who had a watermelon emoji, who sperged about Israel and Palestine or against the right, or who claim to be anti-capitalist and yet use one of the biggest capitalist, multinational platforms to find a cunt to fuck.

BUT I have two positive notes. I found a small, very small, number of decent profiles and a new hobby: laughing at the ludicrous accounts I come across. Seriously, I had to physically stop myself from commenting every stupid thing they say, unfortunately it ain't a cyberbullying, New Zealand horticultural forum. 10 out of 10, will do again.

I guess all is not lost. At least if I don't find a man on the app I'll have earned so many good laughs. Try it yourself!
 
Sorry to continuously sperg about dating apps but I have a small but significant update: my god we are so fucked.

Three quarters of the men I've come across are the same: they all look the same, they give all the same surface-level, NPC answers, the same kinds of pictures and "passions" (i.e. eating, drinking, travelling, going to the beach/gym/skiing). A good portion of them are proto-homos, I'm certain they are gay but they haven't accepted it yet or if they are straight I do not understand what's going on with my fellow femoids.

I also came across a couple of guys who said they've just come out of jail (gave me a good chuckle tbh) and some men who I wouldn't be surprised to find out they suffocated their grandmas to steal their pensions.

And, of course, a good few men who had a watermelon emoji, who sperged about Israel and Palestine or against the right, or who claim to be anti-capitalist and yet use one of the biggest capitalist, multinational platforms to find a cunt to fuck.

BUT I have two positive notes. I found a small, very small, number of decent profiles and a new hobby: laughing at the ludicrous accounts I come across. Seriously, I had to physically stop myself from commenting every stupid thing they say, unfortunately it ain't a cyberbullying, New Zealand horticultural forum. 10 out of 10, will do again.

I guess all is not lost. At least if I don't find a man on the app I'll have earned so many good laughs. Try it yourself!
Sounds like you should start a thread if there isn't one already
 
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