Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

Correct, also these shell companies will have some strong link to one of the BRICS nations, most commonly its either Chinese or Russian, two of the major supporters of the regime.

Both countries have been suspected of supplying intelligence and other military hardware such as the Chinese built MANPADs. In return it has probably been confirmed that Iran has been supplying drones to Russia, there is a very eerie similarity between witness reports from the Gulf and Ukraine, so much so that the Saudis have been buying the Ukrainian anti drone, far cheaper and more effective than the American system.

Another interesting fact, keep an eye on the Caspian Sea, my chilled stoner brain has just recognised the fact, Russia and Iran have a direct sea route.
There are many shipping companies that aren't linked to governments and don't have any sort of dubious purpose. They're just trading companies and even if they use force majeur there are running costs for all of these ships and companies - they are dependent on payment schedules and other shit to keep things going.

It's much like a hotel in a sudden warzone that loses all occupancy. They have running costs and have to fire people and might even shut down.
 
I agree with the Chinese guy that they are setting the stage for martial law, the price of goods will only get worse, fuel shortages are likely, and a draft would set the powder keg off, but I can't see the national guard, or the beer bellied, gout-ridden, ICE agents being able to deal with it though. Then I think back to the weird drone thing from a couple years ago, where the feds basically told everyone "don't worry about it," and add the flock cameras and Palantir bullshit, and it seems likely they were test-running drone enforcement for civil disturbances.
 
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Thoughts?
He gives America way too much credit. The reality is that America is lashing out in frustration and desperation trying to prevent their hegemony from falling. They haven't made any plans for what happens after it's gone. Just like they didn't make plans for Iran retaliating as violently as they did.
 
He gives America way too much credit. The reality is that America is lashing out in frustration and desperation trying to prevent their hegemony from falling. They haven't made any plans for what happens after it's gone. Just like they didn't make plans for Iran retaliating as violently as they did.
For all the talk about how America is great and badass and their military has blown Iran to smithereens its the case that under the Trump administration - even if you ignore Trump as the figurehead - America has become an extremely unreliable and unpredictable partner.

That has implications far outside of the strait/Iran/Israel. People will take advantage of the chaos.

The damage that all of this has caused (not the bombing and military action itself, but the chaotic and unreliable nature of things including the sperging about tarrifs and tons of other shit) will have broad implications for many years to come.
 
The damage that all of this has caused (not the bombing and military action itself, but the chaotic and unreliable nature of things including the sperging about tarrifs and tons of other shit) will have broad implications for many years to come.
Biden got the ball rolling by giving a blank cheque to Ukraine and showing the world that the American, and broader Western militaries and their weapons aren't all they're cracked up to be.

Instead of defending America's place in the world, Trump isolated America from it's long-time allies, and pushed them into the arms of America's rivals. China for trade, Russia for energy. A world where Europe gets along with Russia is still a ways off. But given that Trump turned Russia into the oil monopoly of Eurasia by attacking Iran, it's inevitable.
 
Biden got the ball rolling by giving a blank cheque to Ukraine and showing the world that the American, and broader Western militaries and their weapons aren't all they're cracked up to be.

Instead of defending America's place in the world, Trump isolated America from it's long-time allies, and pushed them into the arms of America's rivals. China for trade, Russia for energy. A world where Europe gets along with Russia is still a ways off. But given that Trump turned Russia into the oil monopoly of Eurasia by attacking Iran, it's inevitable.
I honestly think this was all done to try and wear down NATO, as NATO is the only potential snag in the greater Israel project.
 
I honestly think this was all done to try and wear down NATO, as NATO is the only potential snag in the greater Israel project.
oh definitely, they got trump trying to openly leave nato and trying to close the strait even tighter so that euro vassal elites cant just get supplies with iran's approval. im honestly amazed at how poorly its going for zog though since even the most gimped spineless kiked out zogged out motherfuckers the euros have the displeasure of calling "leaders" (not an insult to the common man there, im posting in a thread about my "leader" bringing the world to ruin) have told trump and america to kick rocks. i fully expected starmer to throw on his yarmulke and suddenly switch to "patriot" mode and send brits out on Gallipoli 2
 
"do you prefer they were hung from cranes?" yes you dumb fucking kike bimbo! you are trying to appeal to and pretend to be part of the fucking far right. you dumb fucking cunt. at least pretend you are not a degenerate worshipper of baal for one fucking damn second. gay = bad, non white replacement of whites = bad. did mossad not give you a fucking cliffnotes version of what we believe? why are kikes like this. you can not just magically make us love gays by trying to shame us when we are this far along. you are trying to smugly tell hitler "heh but isnt this censoring knowledge? checkmate chud how about you vote for a reeaaaal naitonal socialist guys?" in the middle of him burning all the child mutilation tranny books.

why are jews so fucking stupid? netenyahu did this too he appealed to fucking feminism to get us to die to fight iran. fuck those stupid only fans whores, fuck faggots, and fuck kikes. fuckers thinking its just eternally the 90s while they did everything to remove the naivete and comfort and industrial base needed to make the 90s happen.
 
"do you prefer they were hung from cranes?" yes you dumb fucking kike bimbo! you are trying to appeal to and pretend to be part of the fucking far right. you dumb fucking cunt. at least pretend you are not a degenerate worshipper of baal for one fucking damn second. gay = bad, non white replacement of whites = bad. did mossad not give you a fucking cliffnotes version of what we believe? why are kikes like this. you can not just magically make us love gays by trying to shame us when we are this far along. you are trying to smugly tell hitler "heh but isnt this censoring knowledge? checkmate chud how about you vote for a reeaaaal naitonal socialist guys?" in the middle of him burning all the child mutilation tranny books.

why are jews so fucking stupid? netenyahu did this too he appealed to fucking feminism to get us to die to fight iran. fuck those stupid only fans whores, fuck faggots, and fuck kikes. fuckers thinking its just eternally the 90s while they did everything to remove the naivete and comfort and industrial base needed to make the 90s happen.
They're so duplicitous, and scheming that they change their talking points depending on which side they are attempting to appeal to. In the other thread these same brain dead shlomos would post about having to slay the sub-human muzzies to save the world, then in another post chastise others for not supporting "freeing them" from the IRGC. In short they just throw every rhetorical position they can use against the wall to create a consensus for their own interest. They're fucking exhausting.
 
MAGA, he is a fucking looney tune. Seriously, this isn't a show where he is pretending. 8 AI women are to be saved? He is nuts. He has an entire division of the government whom have the job to verify data and he isn't even using it because he knows best.

This President is out of fucking control.
 
MAGA, he is a fucking looney tune. Seriously, this isn't a show where he is pretending. 8 AI women are to be saved? He is nuts. He has an entire division of the government whom have the job to verify data and he isn't even using it because he knows best.

This President is out of fucking control.
They really did scream AI WOMAN in that post, didn't they? Like... you don't even have to be a Gen Alpha AI slop creator to have seen that. It's wild this even became a thing on Trump's radar.
 
They're so duplicitous, and scheming that they change their talking points depending on which side they are attempting to appeal to. In the other thread these same brain dead shlomos would post about having to slay the sub-human muzzies to save the world, then in another post chastise others for not supporting "freeing them" from the IRGC. In short they just throw every rhetorical position they can use against the wall to create a consensus for their own interest. They're fucking exhausting.
i think they might also be under the delusion they actually are helping people. i think in their minds the palestinians and iranians not just submitting to globo homo and zog like other gulf states did and not becoming slaves is them "acting up". i think in loomer and netanyahu's mind we are just boys focused on labels and being "based" or "cool" and that this will pass. i think thats why they argue with labels rather than positions and why they havent attempted to more fully subvert in a more intelligent manner and probably the only reason the western zog govs havent opened the death camps for dissidents en masse
 
i think they might also be under the delusion they actually are helping people. i think in their minds the palestinians and iranians not just submitting to globo homo and zog like other gulf states did and not becoming slaves is them "acting up". i think in loomer and netanyahu's mind we are just boys focused on labels and being "based" or "cool" and that this will pass. i think thats why they argue with labels rather than positions and why they havent attempted to more fully subvert in a more intelligent manner and probably the only reason the western zog govs havent opened the death camps for dissidents en masse
It's going to be funny hearing Democrats trying to sell hoodrats on why defending Israel is more important than their foodstamps and public housing.
 
It's going to be funny hearing Democrats trying to sell hoodrats on why defending Israel is more important than their foodstamps and public housing.
also there was talk of fisa for save act, which interests me as they might make some symbolic concessions (theyd just find a way to ignore or circumvent save anyway) to get whites to clap for ground invasion or legalization of tools zog finds helpful like fisa. only now itd have to be democrats passing it. so if you are an eager dem voter you now dont get revenge wank against trump, you dont get welfare programs, and now your party is passing iran war measures and or (at least to you in this situation) very restrictive anti immigration bills.
 
I honestly think this was all done to try and wear down NATO, as NATO is the only potential snag in the greater Israel project.
I disagree. NATO wouldn't do a thing if Israel woke up one morning and decided to fly over each NATO country in Europe one by one and drop bombs on schools. Hell they'd even let Israel use their airports and air bases to do it.

They could easily fuck Israel's shit. But America is there to immunize Israel from consequences. Nobody in NATO will honor article 5 and start a war with America over Turkey.

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I disagree. NATO wouldn't do a thing if Israel woke up one morning and decided to fly over each NATO country in Europe one by one and drop bombs on schools. Hell they'd even let Israel use their airports and air bases to do it.

They could easily fuck Israel's shit. But America is there to immunize Israel from consequences. Nobody in NATO will honor article 5 and start a war with America over Turkey.

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They were prepared to defend Greenland. They sent French and British officers as a tripwire.
 
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