Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

Maker's Mark said:
I didn’t need to see half a dozen PTSD episodes. I got it after the first one.
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but how else will you know how SERIOUS this is?
oh, also, eve killed their unborn baby because he was gone for two months and that was, like, very stressful
she only had her entire family, debbie, and the secret government service for support
whoopsie
 
I didn't care much about this season, but I can't lie, seeing Lucan and Anissa noticeably trying to blend in being followed by Kregg immediately looking like he's lived on earth his whole life was fucking hilarious, who the hell got him into smoking?
 
Cave Fisher said:
I didn't care much about this season, but I can't lie, seeing Lucan and Anissa noticeably trying to blend in being followed by Kregg immediately looking like he's lived on earth his whole life was fucking hilarious, who the hell got him into smoking?
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bro just immediately folded the moment they landed
 
Cave Fisher said:
I didn't care much about this season, but I can't lie, seeing Lucan and Anissa noticeably trying to blend in being followed by Kregg immediately looking like he's lived on earth his whole life was fucking hilarious, who the hell got him into smoking?
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Kregg understood the assignment and immediately became a biker. Imagine being a space alien and you're still named "Craig"
 
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I guess I could understand Eve getting an abortion more if it was framed as something along the lines of "I barely understand my own body, what's going to happen to me if this baby is born," but in order to do that you'd need to have the pregnancy look like it's taking a harder toll on her body than just losing her powers. It'd still be selfish, but the kind of selfish where you're considering the possibility that you might actually die during childbirth if not before the baby is even born, or if the baby will even live past birth anyway, and the fact that no modern medicine could possibly help with whatever funky shit is going on with her atoms or whatever the fuck her deal is exactly.
 
Cryogonal2 said:
I guess I could understand Eve getting an abortion more if it was framed as something along the lines of "I barely understand my own body, what's going to happen to me if this baby is born," but in order to do that you'd need to have the pregnancy look like it's taking a harder toll on her body than just losing her powers. It'd still be selfish, but the kind of selfish where you're considering the possibility that you might actually die during childbirth if not before the baby is even born, or if the baby will even live past birth anyway, and the fact that no modern medicine could possibly help with whatever funky shit is going on with her atoms or whatever the fuck her deal is exactly.
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So, in other words, a miscarriage, not a babykilling.

Wanna know the absolute worst part? It's established later on, not even a year after this, when they're trying for a baby for real that overuse of her powers would damage the child. They could've just said her using her powers while pregnant killed her baby this entire time. Instead, Eve killed their kid because of inconvenience.
Cheap shock drama.
 
Dr. Butt said:
Exactly. The point wasn't that there's no God, it's that in Invincible-world there's no Hell either. It's just a big underground cave and "demons" are just lizard people, and Satan is the king of the lizard cave people, and they live in a really scary-looking place. Then, one of the lizard cavemen gives Mark Dr. House's speech about how real life isn't just a test.
This is because Mark is a young boy struggling with his simple young boy concept of black-and-white right-or-wrong, and this storyline needs him to accept that sometimes to win a war you might have to kill a guy. God and The Devil may still exist in Invincible-land, but they don't exist in caverns under the earth or on clouds up in the sky. Pretty bland stuff unless you're that angry video-game hating Jesus guy from the 2000s.
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Honestly my problem with the hell episode was more that Kirkman hyped up "Invincible goes to hell" since some time but then we only got some place that actually is just a normal cave that kinda looks like a super generic cartoon hell, so what's the point of having hell in the first place if it actually isn't the real deal?

Especially since if you go back to season 1 it really feels like they retconned a lot of stuff since Damien was basically a completly different character back then, even reddit complained about that: https://www.reddit.com/r/Invincible..._is_incredibly_disappointing_in_the_show_and/

Given the problem was that it just felt jarring to hype up Invincible going to hell and then it's just a weird comedy episode about Invincible helping a handful of temu power rangers that live in a cave. (Especially since Satan is such a pushover that even after regaining his full power he just gets steamrolled by a random low tier villain that Mark just one shots without issue, which is really telling if you consider that he usually gets knocked around by most randos he comes across.)
 
I am torn on this show. Some ideas are genuinely enjoyable. Everything that has to do with the Viltrumites and the GDA is PEAK. But other times I feel like they are creating controversy and subversion for the sake of getting headlines and get people on Twitter talking about them.

Demons are "achually" good guys to make Christians angry. Eve was made fat and a child murderer in the same episode to bait people to talk about abortion and the dumb body positive debate. And yes, I am aware this is from the OG comics. It was true then, also. We also have scheduled a male rape scene.

Some backfired hard — such as Amber becoming unlikable — and others did help them. For instance, the new Tech Jacket, despite having the same design as Ladybug is way more popular than when he was a guy.

It's like they know they are running a bootleg DC/Marvel comics universe, and to compensate, they try to subvert expectations with cheap controversy. Let's not kid ourselves — even without the OG Guardians of the Globe being a Temu Justice League, this universe is very derivative. There's Temu Blue Bettle, temu Kryptonians, and S.H.I.E.L.D etc.

As for Mark, aka Invincible, for me he feels like a woke Temu version of Peter Parker with Superman powers (Look! He calls out sexism, and dates a black woman, has a gay best friend, and is ok with his son being aborted!). Personally, I think early Nolan stole the show for him. Mark is the titular character, but he is far from being the most interesting one.
 
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Mystery Spy said:
I am torn on this show. Some ideas are genuinely enjoyable. Everything that has to do with the Viltrumites and the GDA is PEAK. But other times I feel like they are creating controversy and subversion for the sake of getting headlines and people on Twitter talking about them.

Demons are "actually" good guys to make Christians angry. Eve was made fat and a child murderer in the same episode to bait people to talk about abortion and the dumb positive debate. And yes, I am aware this is from the OG comics. It was true then, also. We also have scheduled a male rape scene.

Some backfired hard — such as Amber becoming unlikable — and others did help them. For instance, the new Tech Jacket, despite having the same design as Ladybug and Peni Parker, is way more popular than when he was a guy.

It's like they know they are running a bootleg DC/Marvel comics universe, and to compensate, they try to subvert expectations with cheap controversy. Let's not kid ourselves — even without the OG Guardians of the Globe being a Temu Justice League, this universe is very derivative.

As for Mark, aka Invincible, for me he feels like a woke version of Peter Parker with Superman powers. Personally, I think early Nolan stole the show for him. He is the titualr character, but he is far from being the most interesting one.
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yup
It's really bad when some of Mark's alternate selves, even though briefly appearing, have more interesting personalities than he does. I'm not exaggerating. The fun-loving torturehappy Mark, the casual Mark we see who sided with Nolan at the beginning of season 2, Sinister Mark who managed to kill his Nolan, and Omnimark's reserved attitude.

People only like Tech Jacket because muh daughteru cringe or crying face posting. She has no character outside calling Allen for help and is not affected at all by being drafted into an intergalactic war at 15. I genuinely wonder why she was even there except to stand in for the real Tech Jacket, who actually had a personality.
 
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