💬 Off-Topic Transphobic Animals - Pets and other animals who sniff out frauds or react negatively to troons

[Sheogorath]

It's weird that there isn't really a good word for the male equivalent of a tomboy that's socially acceptable in the way tomboy is. Femboy is associated with degeneracy and I can only associate tomgirl with Chris Chan

if a dude grows his hair out you just get called a fag this can be avoided with combat boots and a metal tshirt

 

[Kent Allard]

A bit of a hyperbole. I am asking for the science here. I am curious as to what exactly they smell

Link.

Dogs devote lots of brain power to interpreting smells. They have more than 100 million sensory receptor sites in the nasal cavity compared to 6 million in
people, and the area of the canine brain devoted to analyzing odors is about 40 times larger than the comparable part of the human brain. In fact, it has been estimated that dogs can smell anywhere from 1,000 to 10,000 times better than people.

Can dogs use smell to communicate?
While noses do not actually speak, they do communicate. With a single sniff, noses interpret an entire story without words by using amines and acids emitted by dogs as the basis for chemical communication. The chemical aromas communicate what a dog likes to eat and identify gender and mood.

By simply smelling, a dog can determine if a new friend is male or female, happy or aggressive, healthy or ill. Dogs get a general idea about each other with a quick sniff, but get more detailed information by getting up close and personal, which is why some dogs sniff private parts of the anatomy.

Dogs also have a good scent memory that can identify other dogs they have not seen for years and even remember which of them was the dominant member of the pair. When dogs belonging to the same family are separated for a while, they use sense of smell to catch up on things. Changes in odors may convey where the dog went, what he ate, and what he did.
When in a new territory, a dog can sniff a tree and determine what other dogs live in the neighborhood. They can smell a visitor’s pant-leg and get a good impression of where the person lives and whether he has pets at home. In addition, humans each have a unique scent that enables dogs to tell one person from another. Our dogs do not need to see us to identify us.


Dogs also have a great homing instinct that depends on their ability to smell. Since dogs move their nostrils independently, they can determine the direction of an odor and use their sense of smell like a compass.


Dogs also sense fear and anxiety via their noses. When we are stressed or scared, we secrete adrenaline, the fight-or-flight hormone, which dogs detect even though we cannot smell it. When we are anxious, we also have increased heart rate and blood flow, which carries body chemicals to the skin surface where dogs can smell them more easily. So there is no use trying to mask your true feelings from your canine companion: their sense of smell will not be fooled. (ED)

 

[Incecticyder]

Dogs devote lots of brain power to interpreting smells. They have more than 100 million sensory receptor sites in the nasal cavity compared to 6 million in
people, and the area of the canine brain devoted to analyzing odors is about 40 times larger than the comparable part of the human brain. In fact, it has been estimated that dogs can smell anywhere from 1,000 to 10,000 times better than people.

Can dogs use smell to communicate?
While noses do not actually speak, they do communicate. With a single sniff, noses interpret an entire story without words by using amines and acids emitted by dogs as the basis for chemical communication. The chemical aromas communicate what a dog likes to eat and identify gender and mood.

By simply smelling, a dog can determine if a new friend is male or female, happy or aggressive, healthy or ill. Dogs get a general idea about each other with a quick sniff, but get more detailed information by getting up close and personal, which is why some dogs sniff private parts of the anatomy.

Dogs also have a good scent memory that can identify other dogs they have not seen for years and even remember which of them was the dominant member of the pair. When dogs belonging to the same family are separated for a while, they use sense of smell to catch up on things. Changes in odors may convey where the dog went, what he ate, and what he did.
When in a new territory, a dog can sniff a tree and determine what other dogs live in the neighborhood. They can smell a visitor’s pant-leg and get a good impression of where the person lives and whether he has pets at home. In addition, humans each have a unique scent that enables dogs to tell one person from another. Our dogs do not need to see us to identify us.


Dogs also have a great homing instinct that depends on their ability to smell. Since dogs move their nostrils independently, they can determine the direction of an odor and use their sense of smell like a compass.


Dogs also sense fear and anxiety via their noses. When we are stressed or scared, we secrete adrenaline, the fight-or-flight hormone, which dogs detect even though we cannot smell it. When we are anxious, we also have increased heart rate and blood flow, which carries body chemicals to the skin surface where dogs can smell them more easily. So there is no use trying to mask your true feelings from your canine companion: their sense of smell will not be fooled. (ED)

That was good. I still have questions though. When an animal smells troons/poons how do they actually perceive them? Do they perceive them like we do sulfur or teargas and that causes irritation and pain? Do the hormones cause confusion and panic as opposed to anything else? Does HRT increase the difficulty of animals to get used to the individual and cause identification issues? If only we could ask their opinions...

 

[Kent Allard]

Why are dogs able to smell better than humans?​

Unlike humans, dogs have an additional olfactory tool that increases their ability to smell. Jacobsen’s organ(or the vomeronasal organ) is a special part of the dog’s olfactory apparatus that is located inside the nasal cavity and opens into the roof of the mouth behind the upper incisors. This amazing organ serves as a secondary olfactory system designed specifically for chemical communication. The nerves from Jacobsen’s organ lead directly to the brain. They are different from other nerves in the nose in that they do not respond to ordinary smells, but to a range of substances that often have no odor at all. In other words, they detect “undetectable” odors.


Jacobsen’s organ communicates with the part of the brain that deals with mating. By identifying pheromones, it provides male and female dogs with the information they need to determine if a member of the opposite sex is available for breeding. It also enhances newborn puppies’ sense of smell so they can find the mother’s milk, and allows a pup to distinguish its mother from other nursing dogs. With a quick sniff, a pup placed between two females will migrate to its own mother. Pups also have heat sensors in their noses that help them locate their mothers if they wander away.

The two separate parts of the dog’s odor detection system, the nose and Jacobsen’s organ, work together to provide delicate sensibilities that neither system could achieve alone. When dogs curl their lips and flare their nostrils, they open up Jacobsen’s organ, increase the exposure of the nasal cavity to aromatic molecules, and essentially become remarkably efficient smelling machines.


My best guess would be the change in the microbiota than comes with taking high doses of opposite sex hormones, along with high stress levels which lead to high cortisol levels that are detectable by the average pooch. Remember, most of what we call body odor comes from relatively scentless sweat which the bacteria feed on and their byproduct is what we smell.

 

[Incecticyder]

Why are dogs able to smell better than humans?​

Unlike humans, dogs have an additional olfactory tool that increases their ability to smell. Jacobsen’s organ(or the vomeronasal organ) is a special part of the dog’s olfactory apparatus that is located inside the nasal cavity and opens into the roof of the mouth behind the upper incisors. This amazing organ serves as a secondary olfactory system designed specifically for chemical communication. The nerves from Jacobsen’s organ lead directly to the brain. They are different from other nerves in the nose in that they do not respond to ordinary smells, but to a range of substances that often have no odor at all. In other words, they detect “undetectable” odors.


Jacobsen’s organ communicates with the part of the brain that deals with mating. By identifying pheromones, it provides male and female dogs with the information they need to determine if a member of the opposite sex is available for breeding. It also enhances newborn puppies’ sense of smell so they can find the mother’s milk, and allows a pup to distinguish its mother from other nursing dogs. With a quick sniff, a pup placed between two females will migrate to its own mother. Pups also have heat sensors in their noses that help them locate their mothers if they wander away.

The two separate parts of the dog’s odor detection system, the nose and Jacobsen’s organ, work together to provide delicate sensibilities that neither system could achieve alone. When dogs curl their lips and flare their nostrils, they open up Jacobsen’s organ, increase the exposure of the nasal cavity to aromatic molecules, and essentially become remarkably efficient smelling machines.


My best guess would be the change in the microbiota than comes with taking high doses of opposite sex hormones, along with high stress levels which lead to high cortisol levels that are detectable by the average pooch. Remember, most of what we call body odor comes from relatively scentless sweat which the bacteria feed on and their byproduct is what we smell.

This has been very interesting and enlightening. So, according to that, dogs receive a ton of contrasting information from trans. Stress, different sexual hormones, other chemical etc etc. Apparently, according to this, dogs do not know what to make of trans.

Curious about other animals such as cats, birds and such. They lack the amazing odor sensing ability of dogs but you see similar behavior. I supposed that birds have good memories and no context as to why someone changed themselves.

 

[Foundinglaunderer]

Just noticed the banner with the fuck boy wojack , unironically discord fuck boys deserve the gas chamber

 

[AnOminous]

That was good. I still have questions though. When an animal smells troons/poons how do they actually perceive them? Do they perceive them like we do sulfur or teargas and that causes irritation and pain? Do the hormones cause confusion and panic as opposed to anything else? Does HRT increase the difficulty of animals to get used to the individual and cause identification issues? If only we could ask their opinions...

We don't know. But we do know they can sense something is seriously wrong with a troon. Also normal humans can sense there is obviously shit wrong with a troon. We just have the "intelligence" to pretend to ignore it, because of our social niceties, instead of just doing the the right thing and beating the troon to death.

 

[Incecticyder]

We don't know. But we do know they can sense something is seriously wrong with a troon. Also normal humans can sense there is obviously shit wrong with a troon. We just have the "intelligence" to pretend to ignore it, because of our social niceties, instead of just doing the the right thing and beating the troon to death.

We clearly do not notice the same thing though. If we could, not even they would want to take HRT.

 

[AnOminous]

We clearly do not notice the same thing though. If we could, not even they would want to take HRT.

In some cases, animals are smarter than humans. It actually takes intelligence to rationalize ourselves out of behaving intelligently. There are some ideas, like Communism, where it takes a very high IQ to tard out enough to believe it.

 

[Incecticyder]

In some cases, animals are smarter than humans. It actually takes intelligence to rationalize ourselves out of behaving intelligently. There are some ideas, like Communism, where it takes a very high IQ to tard out enough to believe it.

The point is that these animals have a reaction that could be compared to cats and catnip only replace arousal with intense hatred. This feels less like intelligence and more like chemical reaction. Like if they have only partial control.

 

[UsedUp]

Cadaver dogs. Just like they're trained to sniff out dead bodies , dogs know that all trannies are dead inside. Along with medical detection dogs.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

If the dog doesn't hate black people when she isn't around then she is only not racist consciously, subconsciously however. I would be willing to bet that deep down she knows that those groups of people are more likely to do harm to her, maybe she doesn't hate them, but she is probably wary of them and that is what the dog is picking up on. I have experienced that exact thing with my family.

I think it's weird to bark at your family, dude.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1cccn5x/got_misgendered_by_a_dog/

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8sW9L

Spoiler: Transcript:

Was at a client’s house and the lady of the house present gendered me correctly. Not more than a few min into the appointment the lady comments how the dog (he/she? + presumed deaf by owner) is just really all over me. Later in the appointment she says how the dog usually gets all over and loves the most manly man in the room. Even though my co-worker there was a very large and strong man’s man, while i presented femme (albiet i was wearing a face mask for hiding my hairs). I laughed internally while also being annoyed at the dog for only a second. It was too cute to be mad at for long. But dang it dog! Why you gotta call me out like that when i’m trying my best not to radiate manly vibes!

 

[The Un-Clit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1cccn5x/got_misgendered_by_a_dog/

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8sW9L

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Spoiler: Transcript:

Was at a client’s house and the lady of the house present gendered me correctly. Not more than a few min into the appointment the lady comments how the dog (he/she? + presumed deaf by owner) is just really all over me. Later in the appointment she says how the dog usually gets all over and loves the most manly man in the room. Even though my co-worker there was a very large and strong man’s man, while i presented femme (albiet i was wearing a face mask for hiding my hairs). I laughed internally while also being annoyed at the dog for only a second. It was too cute to be mad at for long. But dang it dog! Why you gotta call me out like that when i’m trying my best not to radiate manly vibes!

You KNOW the homeowner clocked the troon immediately and told him that the dog 'loves on the most manly man in the room' to troll him. Top tier.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

We don't know. But we do know they can sense something is seriously wrong with a troon. Also normal humans can sense there is obviously shit wrong with a troon. We just have the "intelligence" to pretend to ignore it, because of our social niceties, instead of just doing the the right thing and beating the troon to death.

Gavin de Becker's book, The Gift of Fear, is all about this. Humans are the only species that will ignore our survival instincts and put ourselves, and even our kids, elderly and sick, in danger to "be kind". The example he usually gives is a woman waiting outside a lift that opens and inside is a man that makes her feel uncomfortable. She doesn't know why, but she feels something's off about him. But she thinks she's just being rude or silly and ignores her own instincts warning her, and gets into what's basically a sealed soundproof metal box alone with the man. "Gaslighting" is overused as a word, but there is a lot of social pressure and conditioning to ignore your gut.

Here's a PSA that was meant to do just that, in exactly this situation. The troon even has a weird contemptuous sneer on his chops indicating he's got ill intentions. The woman does nothing wrong. And he's perfectly safe, what could be safer than being alone?

 

[femboy fart huffer]

You KNOW the homeowner clocked the troon immediately and told him that the dog 'loves on the most manly man in the room' to troll him. Top tier.

I wonder how many of these 'oh my dog really loves/hates men' type of posts are real. Especially as a lot of them are coming from women and trannies are famously unable to pick up on the subtle snideness of women. I bet a lot of the dogs don't even have any feeling towards either and it's just the person wanted to fuck with the tranny.

 

[Constellationzero]

Curious about other animals such as cats, birds and such. They lack the amazing odor sensing ability of dogs but you see similar behavior. I supposed that birds have good memories and no context as to why someone changed themselves.

Cats have the Jacobson's and this is why you see the Flehmen reaction, so I would say they also don't know what to make of troonz and poonz.

 

[Incecticyder]

Cats have the Jacobson's and this is why you see the Flehmen reaction, so I would say they also don't know what to make of troonz and poonz.

A fight or flight response seems natural in cases such as these. Do they sense the wrong hormones or the other chemicals that go into HRT? That is something that I wonder. You get a similar reaction to vets.

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

I wonder if there's any Reddit posts of troons sperging about how their own pets suddenly don't like them anymore once they start HRT. These posts seem to be about other peoples' pets.

 

[Constellationzero]

A fight or flight response seems natural in cases such as these. Do they sense the wrong hormones or the other chemicals that go into HRT? That is something that I wonder. You get a similar reaction to vets.

I wonder the same thing. Too bad anyone who chose to write something on that would be canceled and failed out of their DVM program.