Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

Coolio55 said:
Which language? I look up xmonad and it starts talking about Haskell.
Did they change it at some point?
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Haskal is the superior language (no matter what the discussion is about or what you're comparing to).

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Hannibalistique said:
So, just a local privesc? I. e. only people who it impacts are retards who treat containers like security barriers or Google that tries to lock users out of their own devices.

Still waiting for Mythos to deliver a 15 year old RCE in the Linux TCP stack or something equally fun.
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Yes. It is essentially just a local privsec, with a fancy name.
We have those all the time so nothing new.

More notable in my view is it highlights the insane API to access hashes and crypto.
Repurposing the Berkley Sockets API with magic blobs. Really, the fucking Berkley Sockets API is "this sounds like a good API to piggyback ontop of".
Really?
 
Cuckoman said:
Yes. It is essentially just a local privsec, with a fancy name.
We have those all the time so nothing new.

More notable in my view is it highlights the insane API to access hashes and crypto.
Repurposing the Berkley Sockets API with magic blobs. Really, the fucking Berkley Sockets API is "this sounds like a good API to piggyback ontop of".
Really?
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Sounds like a good way to avoid vulnerabilities by staying an abstraction or two away from syzkaller (I kid, or at least I hope syzkaller accounts for such).
 
Cherenkovblue said:
You forgot monads (which are just monoids in the category of endofunctors).
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Monads, is in fact, Monoids in the Category of Endofunctors, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Monoid in the Category of Endofunctors. Monads is not a functional programming abstraction unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning categorical system made useful by the endofunctors, natural transformations and vital category theory components comprising a full monad as defined by the monad laws.

Many Haskell programmers run a modified version of the categorical system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of category theory which is widely used today is often called "Monads", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the monoid in the category of endofunctors, developed by the Category Theory Project.

There really is a Monad, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Monads is the monoid structure: the algebraic operation in the system that composes computations to the other programs that you run. The monoid structure is an essential part of a monad, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete category of endofunctors. Monads is normally used in combination with the category of endofunctors: the whole system is basically a monoid in the category of endofunctors with monad added, or Monoid in the Category of Endofunctors. All the so-called "Monad" tutorials are really tutorials of Monoids in the Category of Endofunctors.

Thank you.
 
The full history of Jeremy Bicha, Elio Qoshi, the Sonny Piers dispute has now been merged into a single report (Trigger Warning Jeremy Bicha) so we can see how they all overlap. They are not necessarily isolated cases. Birds of a feather stick together. Dr Sally Muytjens did a whole PhD thesis on what she called informal grey networks in the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne. It looks like the behaviour of the Debian/Ubuntu/GNOME "community" fits into that creepy paradigm like a hand into a glove.
 
0gh said:
I don't really get what you're trying to say, is Brodie "le bad" for not having the exact same opinions as you?
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No, it's because I disagree with you on him being honest and critical in every video, you misunderstood me.
0gh said:
Yeah he's not a right winger, but he doesn't have to be.
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I wasn't implying he should be left or right chicken nigger wing.
0gh said:
He's more or less a news presenter in the tech space. I don't care if the weather girl hates the evil right wingers, she's reading shit off a prompt. Brodie is reading comments, talking about recent software space news or whatnot.
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Yes, he does what at least half of all video based journalists do, including Lunduke the sensationalist jewish nigger, AND? That ain't gonna stop me from disliking the guy for what I've experienced when watching him.
0gh said:
As long as he doesn't lie to me in his videos or try to make me lick tranny balls why do I care that he has a buttplug up his ass?
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He DOESN'T lie or try to insinuate to his audience that they might as well suck trannies off in ANY of his videos?
0gh said:
Other people we talk about on the forum sexually assault people, put out bounties to get people fired and lots of horrible shit. His biggest crime is he told Karol he's open to suggestions?
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And ALSO other stuff we talk about are annoying grifters, troons, what we wish isn't happening like age verification, enforcement of Rust, and a plethora of complaining/opinions.
0gh said:
Karol's suggestion was to talk to people before making a video on them. That seems reasonable. What exactly happened as a result of this so horrible interaction? What did Karol convince him to do that is bad in some way?
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Yeah it may sound reasonable until you realize the soy faggot urked at Brodie here for things as basic as wishing an org or two SPOKE BETTER and wanting to convince a different audience that they're wrong. Then all of the sudden his request ain't reasonable but a annoying demand to be dishonest and not make him and others look bad. Karol wanted to make sure he doesn't get to critique them the same way in any future videos as much as he could get away with. And the first things Brodie does wasn't something like "I spoke my mind a bit on the issue and gave tips on what to improve like usual, and what they did could've been better, how is this an issue?", but instead it was "It was that grifter Lunduke's fault! No no, I'm still on your side, you see I was trying to persuade his audience to join us instead... What should I say if not my opinion, sire?"
0gh said:
Lefties unperson people for having the slightest difference of opinion, this doesn't feel too different to me given how plain Brodie is.
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Define "plain"?
0gh said:
Also Lunduke is retarded many times and talks without understanding the situation fully. He's been criticized plenty in this thread too.
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Yeah, I know, I even post some of his videos once a while because his contains more interesting topics both the Linux and Open Source threads would want to discuss, even when he's retarded.
 
What the fuck is everyone's obsession with publishing their personal website or blog under a license? CC-BY-whatever. Nobody cares, why even use a permissive licence, do you want your personal information and writing stolen?

I only partly get it for software, mostly the software that's of critical importance to free communication and free use of the hardware that allows communication.

I do think open sourcing software is the way to go, to gain trust from your users. Personally I would publish all of my software under All Rights Reserved, I do not allow anyone to use this software without my explicit written permission. If a company wants to use it they can pay me. I like the AGPL for that reason too. If you're a one man shop using it for your single income I'll grant you a waiver, but if you're a large company, screw you, pay me.

I think the people that see FOSS as a purely ideological movement are wrong. I think the majority of it is just big companies crowdsourcing their software development, debugging, testing and bug fixing.

Every time I encounter a bug in something someone else wrote and have to fix it myself or write a bug report, I think I just got used for free work by some company that's gonna use this fix to make shitloads of money and not give me any of it. Especially after the whole FOSS movement got EEE'd by Jewgle and Microjeet.
 
monk said:
What the fuck is everyone's obsession with publishing their personal website or blog under a license? CC-BY-whatever. Nobody cares, why even use a permissive licence, do you want your personal information and writing stolen?

I only partly get it for software, mostly the software that's of critical importance to free communication and free use of the hardware that allows communication.

I do think open sourcing software is the way to go, to gain trust from your users. Personally I would publish all of my software under All Rights Reserved, I do not allow anyone to use this software without my explicit written permission. If a company wants to use it they can pay me. I like the AGPL for that reason too. If you're a one man shop using it for your single income I'll grant you a waiver, but if you're a large company, screw you, pay me.

I think the people that see FOSS as a purely ideological movement are wrong. I think the majority of it is just big companies crowdsourcing their software development, debugging, testing and bug fixing.

Every time I encounter a bug in something someone else wrote and have to fix it myself or write a bug report, I think I just got used for free work by some company that's gonna use this fix to make shitloads of money and not give me any of it. Especially after the whole FOSS movement got EEE'd by Jewgle and Microjeet.
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FOSS is the tranny thing, Free Software is the actual ideological movement behind GNU et al. that's all about adhering to the four freedoms and providing users with free, open source, auditable software. FOSS is about writing Rust + MIT + CoC troonslop to get asspats from big tech. As for the licenses, I'd go so far as to say there's two sane ways to go about it: either you grant full permissiveness i.e. Apache / BSD / Mozilla, or you go anti-corpo with AGPL. Everything else is just a less effective variation of either side. Either you do want corpos using it, or you don't. I guess an ARR license that still shares source code would make it Open Source but not Free? Weird thing to think about. Kinda reminds me of Terraform and how they handle licensing.
 
monk said:
What the fuck is everyone's obsession with publishing their personal website or blog under a license? [...]
If you're a one man shop using it for your single income I'll grant you a waiver, but if you're a large company, screw you, pay me.
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Nigga you want to waste your time writing waivers? Licensing is a tool you can use to avoid that kind of shit. You could have a dual license, one with your waiver terms and another for other commercial use with a storefront.
 
pocock said:
The full history of Jeremy Bicha, Elio Qoshi, the Sonny Piers dispute has now been merged into a single report
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cyan links on a white background is horrific.

edit: this is some PREMIUM schizo rambling my guy. Some/most/all of it may be true but ain't nobody gonna read all of it., Presumably you registered here because you found us discussing Jeremy in this thread a few times. He's a known quantity, IIRC Canonical fired him but debian didn't. If it got picked up on more mainstream sites such as techradar, the register (etc etc) then maybe something will happen but otherwise debian seem happy to keep their pedophile on the books.

@Markass the Worst pinging you so you see it, i know you've been interested in jeremy in the past. Archive of the post here just in case https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Z7hWW
 
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pocock said:
The full history of Jeremy Bicha, Elio Qoshi, the Sonny Piers dispute has now been merged into a single report (Trigger Warning Jeremy Bicha) so we can see how they all overlap. They are not necessarily isolated cases. Birds of a feather stick together. Dr Sally Muytjens did a whole PhD thesis on what she called informal grey networks in the Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne. It looks like the behaviour of the Debian/Ubuntu/GNOME "community" fits into that creepy paradigm like a hand into a glove.
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So there is an Albanian Epstein trafficking underage Albanian girls, paid for by Open Source organizations like GNOME and Debian? Very insightful post, you appear to have extensive knowledge of corruption and questionable going ons in Open Source. You're at the right place sharing this.

What the fuck
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