Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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Unknown UAVs spotted moving from Qazvin towards Tehran over the past minutes.

Bridge.
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Powerplant.
Day.

I'm defrosting the cake.

Spats with the Euros aside, we really should have gone down to skeleton crews in Europe 30 years ago and re-assigned the manning to stateside bases after all the post-Cold War BRACs. A lot of organizations ended up being consolidated on smaller bases, but the base hosts never got the personnel needed in return to support all of them properly. Plus, the days of our military using a tour there as a glorified European travelogue need to come to an end.
Russia was set to wild, and has been wildin' and US paratroopers and armor kept them at least thinking about it.

But really, what you're missing out on here is this:
If we close bases in germany, the odds off getting a OCONUS deployment to Germany go way down and you need to really think about American troops and expenses-paid european vacations and their BAH, you absolute monster.
 
Bridge.
And.
Powerplant.
Day.

I'm defrosting the cake.


Russia was set to wild, and has been wildin' and US paratroopers and armor kept them at least thinking about it.

But really, what you're missing out on here is this:
If we close bases in germany, the odds off getting a OCONUS deployment to Germany go way down and you need to really think about American troops and expenses-paid european vacations and their BAH, you absolute monster.
If bridge and power plant day happens im buying a real cake with a shitty photo of Mr Racewar1488's pfp next to it.
 
Bridge.
And.
Powerplant.
Day.

I'm defrosting the cake.
I've got an MRE ready.
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I forgot it's the sabbath for the kikes so no one's showing up to my Stargate SG1 watch party. Sad!
 
Really puts into perspective just how superior America objectively is compared to the rest of the world, where us losing a percent in annual growth while still growing is considered by many to be the end times.
Meanwhile, Europe, Asia, and especially Iran are all on the verge of collapse.
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In other news, Iran is apparently so terrified of bombing resuming that they asked Daddy Russia to call Trump and threaten him not to break the ceasefire.
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I really think the last is more Putin trying to be relevant
 
Finally got a chance to watch this.

Perun points out two major weaknesses on the US front of the war with Iran, mainly drawing from lessons learned from Ukraine-Russia and what it means for future warfare.
  • No base hardening
    • The US was unprepared with little to no bunkers for personal against a country that was known for drones and ballistic missiles. He points out the US mil was/is rushing for cheap prefab bunkers to protect its people now. Why wasn't this done before?
    • Operation Spiderweb proved that if you leave expensive assets exposed, even if deep inside a country, they are highly vulnerable to FPV drone attacks. Every airbase in the US needs to have hardened shelters. Hardened airplane shelters won't protect against JDAMs and missiles, but they can protect FVPs and resist Shahed suicide drones. The farmland China keeps buying around our bases could launch FPV drones and exposed aircraft would be sitting ducks.
  • Why did US Gulf bases not move assets around?
    • Ukraine and Russia have proven that static targets are easier to hit than ones on the move. Iran can buy satellite images from China and get daily, in some cases, hourly updates and see if US bases have moved THAAD, radars, KC tankers and other important assets. Why was this not considered?
    • Both RU and UKR shuffle their assets around so planes, radars and missiles sites are not in one spot for too long. Even moving things around from one of the base to another can have a big impact, especially from Iranian missiles that lack complex terminal guidance.
Other lessons
- The CRAM in Bagdad preformed exceptionally well against drones and mitigated damaged
- Americans don't use any decoys for heavy equipment in the middle east which has consequences in an era of constant surveillance. They have been effective in Ukraine and Russia where both sides waste expensive munitions hitting a bunch of welded scrap metal made to look like an S-300.
- Drone survivability. The US has lost a ton of MQ-9 reapers which are better than loosing jets but not great if enemy air defenses can deny them access.
- Complacency is dangerous, just ask Russia.

In the age of high resolution satellite photos, buildups are easy to see. Satellites can spot planes just setting on the runway daily, potentially hourly. We’re in the dawn of the space wars.
 
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We have enough interceptors, but we shouldn't be burning through them if it can be helped.
I keep seeing this point and i'm not really sure who else we would use them on other than china. Russia is pretty much a joke at this point and not really naval oriented, and if china isn't as willing to die as iran is so that's less likely to go hot. Iran was basically the 3rd largest military that isn't a US ally and the only one with substantial missile capabilities. It's pointless to have all of this shit and never use it.
 
My friend around the Tampa area said he heard a big ass plane fly over his house a couple days ago, one of the ones without sound dampening so you could hear it rumble on the ground. I've been wondering if it meant anything. I might just get my answer.
I've got an MRE ready.
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I forgot it's the sabbath for the kikes so no one's showing up to my Stargate SG1 watch party. Sad!
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Oh god, what was I thinking!? Now everyone will say that my BMI is too high and that they will not have intercourse with me!
Honestly, fair. A man without shame can't be shamed. Good for you.

We’re in the dawn of the space wars.
Now that's a name.
 
Various chinese companies have been buying farmland in the US because farming shit in china is impossible and because many rich chinks are desperate to leave china because they don't let you actually own things there.

Because all chinese investment firms are CCP linked this has led to a lot of reasonable concern. Overall it's a tiny % of not just US farmland but even foreign owned US farm land ( i think china owns like 2% of foreign owned US land but i can't remember off my head) but some of it was near military bases so it has caused people to speculate.

I imagine that land is watched like a hawk though. It's one of those things that is weird but not as weird as a lot of people make it out to be. Frankly no foreigners should be allowed to own US land at all.
 
Various chinese companies have been buying farmland in the US because farming shit in china is impossible and because many rich chinks are desperate to leave china because they don't let you actually own things there.

Because all chinese investment firms are CCP linked this has led to a lot of reasonable concern. Overall it's a tiny % of not just US farmland but even foreign owned US farm land ( i think china owns like 2% of foreign owned US land but i can't remember off my head) but some of it was near military bases so it has caused people to speculate.

I imagine that land is watched like a hawk though. It's one of those things that is weird but not as weird as a lot of people make it out to be. Frankly no foreigners should be allowed to own US land at all.
If there's a significant number of them around bases I doubt it's merely farming/property ownership
 
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If there's a significant of them around bases I doubt it's merely farming/property ownership
The US should just seize them and use eminent domain as an excuse. Its just giving your enemy free espionage otherwise. Same for rentals, additional ID and background checks for anyone renting near a military base.

China would shove me in a lethal injection van if I camped out near their base and started taking photos and installed a bunch of communications listening equipment.

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Look at this map and tell me its not hostile.
 
The US should just seize them and use eminent domain as an excuse. Its just giving your enemy free espionage otherwise. Same for rentals, additional ID and background checks for anyone renting near a military base.

China would shove me in a lethal injection van if I camped out near their base and started taking photos and installed a bunch of communications listening equipment.
Perhaps it's kept around for some kind of counter-intelligence operation, I hope for the sake of the US that is
 
If there's a significant of them around bases I doubt it's merely farming/property ownership
For starters, this map is extremely misleading because the highlighted are counties that contain any land owned by a chinese citizen. If they highlighted the actual land you wouldn't be able to see most of it because it would be smaller than a pixel.
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Then you'll notice the fairly liberal use of the word "near". In a lot of those instances we're talking hundreds of miles away but it looks close on a map. In the other instances it's kind of a given because farmland and bases tend to go hand in hand because they're both ideally found in flat areas.

There was a year or two where it really bothered me but the more i read into it I started to realize it's kind of a nothingburger. Yes it's not impossible they could smuggle drones or some shit in, and again no foreigner should be allowed to own land here, but we essentially own entire countries next to china and have actual bases and missile silos in them. If they want to do a brood war style base race then they're fucked.
 
For starters, this map is extremely misleading because the highlighted are counties that contain any land owned by a chinese citizen. If they highlighted the actual land you wouldn't be able to see most of it because it would be smaller than a pixel.
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Then you'll notice the fairly liberal use of the word "near". In a lot of those instances we're talking hundreds of miles away but it looks close on a map. In the other instances it's kind of a given because farmland and bases tend to go hand in hand because they're both ideally found in flat areas.

There was a year or two where it really bothered me but the more i read into it I started to realize it's kind of a nothingburger. Yes it's not impossible they could smuggle drones or some shit in, and again no foreigner should be allowed to own land here, but we essentially own entire countries next to china and have actual bases and missile silos in them. If they want to do a brood war style base race then they're fucked.
I'm not the one who attached the map but I think this is missing the point, we don't have information on them using these areas for drone operations but there was something pretty recent on a Chinese national taking pictures of such bases/equipment.
You don't need to use them for offensive operations but as a direct line of sight into rival territory. I assume some ground level view of these areas is somewhat different from a satellite view and I've also heard google maps actively scrubs out some data.
 
I'm not the one who attached the map
Sorry by "this" i meant the one i was posting. I think turtle was writing his post at the same time i was cause i hadn't seen it when i wrote mine.

You don't need to use them for offensive operations but as a direct line of sight into rival territory.
Yeah it's pretty gay we let anybody who isn't a fully committed patriot own land, or even be a permanent US resident for that matter.


They have been effective in Ukraine and Russia where both sides waste expensive munitions hitting a bunch of welded scrap metal made to look like an S-300.
There were a lot of really interesting tactics used like this in WW2. Everybody knows about patton's inflatable army, but before d-day the germans also rigged upfallen trees to look like howitzers, and many armies used mannequins from clothing stores to make a building look occuppied when it wasn't. The RAF built entire airfields and fake cities out of lights.

I guess the shitty cameras from back in the day are similar enough to the sub par cameras on drones that the same tricks are starting to work.

Warfare seems to be getting cyclical with things like that.
 
Speaking from experience, a lot of those chinese farms just grow convenience crops like weed, they bought a shit ton of land and flew people out just to out hustle local farmers back when pot got legalized. It's not some massive triad conspiracy, a lot of unrelated people saw an emerging market and took their shot.
 
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