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moocow said:
driving a car that gets 30 mpg 10 miles to/from work every day
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LiquidKid said:
You must live very close to work
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moocow said:
You could also drive a vehicle with better fuel economy
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A lot of anecdote and hyperbole. The bureau of labor statistics says the average person spends roughly 15-17% on transportation sure that most likely includes, car repairs, insurance, maintenance. But to have this, and compounding the rising cost of housing, food, inflation in general and tacking that extra couple cents, for a nation that typically drives farther than average to and from work does have an impact. Over a bunch of gay brown people several thousands of miles across the globe, it sucks.

You also dont account for city vs highway driving. Cars get wasted on city driving and waste significantly more gas than just cruising on the highway, most people dont drive 10 miles to and from work, a lot do 10 just to work. Is that 10 just on the interstate? Or is it on a busy street?

Just get a better fuel economy car bro is also a trap. A lot of modern cars have stuff like GDI, 6 gazillion sensors just to maintain the perfect air fuel mixture just so the cheap chinese plastics and metals surrounding can do that 73mpg at the same time typically being designed to be disposed of after 2-3 leases. The most people can afford is a mid 90s to early 2000s honda that maybe gets half to 3/4ths of that, and at least that wont explode the second a wire gets frayed.

It doesn't help I find hybrids really gay, any electrification used to enhance the power of my explosion making machine designed and refined by white people is being poisoned by chink batteries and indian software engineers, the replacement parts cost so much fucking money and are retardedly designed so that mechanics have no choice but to charge more just to change one stupid, useless censor or else the car will refuse to run. Don't even get met started on the battery, both a ticking timebomb literally and for your wallet

I say all this because, I know mechanics in the industry both general and some in BMW & Mazda, who need to get special schooling and training (1-2 years) just to be able to work on hybrid powertrain and EVs as a result they double their hourly. Because of course they would, you are working on a computer more than a car. And its a mess, you as the customer are getting so screwed by both dealerships and car companies.

All those wonderful monthly savings the redditor touts about, while he literally burns money on something he will never actually own both in lease and repair. You are better off buying a naturally aspirated, old school v6/v8 gas guzzler, you keep your self respect, your balls get bigger, you own it and it just works. Parts are cheap, maintenance is so easy and if you give it a shred of care you can give it to your son. Buy a something like a mustang, your testosterone will thank you. I just did my oil yesterday it costed me 30USD and it was as easy as screwing in a lightbulb
 
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Mister Fister said:
So, do you have anything productive to add to the conversation that isn't copy pasta from r/politics? BTW, do you realize that Vance is far more dangerous than Trump for shitlibs like you but you don't realize it. So, I agree, Trump should step down from office.
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You know, if you can't read on this site, there's no where else for you to go. Might as well make like a kike and gas yourself fag.
 
I’m cross-posting because I can’t post in TES but @mango_reseller posted this about Spirit Airlines and I have to say, GOOD. All of the worst flights I’ve ever had were spirit airlines. You’re packed butt to gut like sardines in uncomfortable seats I would only recommend for the worst prisoners. I don’t think it was fuel costs that bankrupted them but their reputation and how awfully they treated their customers.

 
Troonbolone Acetate said:
All those wonderful monthly savings the redditor touts about, while he literally burns money on something he will never actually own both in lease and repair. You are better off buying a naturally aspirated, old school v6/v8 gas guzzler, you keep your self respect, your balls get bigger, you own it and it just works. Parts are cheap, maintenance is so easy and if you give it a shred of care you can give it to your son.
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That's the thing. I actually own my 03 Malibu. I paid cash. Its a 3.1L V6, gets like 18 city, 20 or 22 highway. But its durable, and repairable. I didn't need no lease to buy it. That engine will outlast the frame its packed into if i take care of it. Meanwhile these 4 cylinder turbos are just begging for trouble, they are running so fucking hard. Sure you might save gas. But when they pop, there goes your engine nigger.
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
I’m cross-posting because I can’t post in TES but @mango_reseller posted this about Spirit Airlines and I have to say, GOOD. All of the worst flights I’ve ever had were spirit airlines. You’re packed butt to gut like sardines in uncomfortable seats I would only recommend for the worst prisoners. I don’t think it was fuel costs that bankrupted them but their reputation and how awfully they treated their customers.

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You may hate spirit, but you're going to hate what happens to ticket prices even more. Expect 20-30% increased ticket prices over summer. Also all the spirit customers that can even afford to fly, will now flood other airlines.

Not that I really understand your reasoning... If you hate them, dont use them? They were dirt cheap for a reason. I don't use them, but I can understand people that do.
 
mango_reseller said:
You may hate spirit, but you're going to hate what happens to ticket prices even more. Expect 20-30% increased ticket prices over summer. Also all the spirit customers that can even afford to fly, will now flood other airlines.
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Yup. When the cost of fuel goes up, everything does. I wish so badly that we had invested more in nuclear energy rather than other nations having us over a barrel ba dum tss 🥁
 
WelperHelper99 said:
That's the thing. I actually own my 03 Malibu. I paid cash. Its a 3.1L V6, gets like 18 city, 20 or 22 highway. But its durable, and repairable. I didn't need no lease to buy it. That engine will outlast the frame its packed into if i take care of it. Meanwhile these 4 cylinder turbos are just begging for trouble, they are running so fucking hard. Sure you might save gas. But when they pop, there goes your engine nigger.
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luv me giant v8 land boat daddy caddy
ate plastic tonka toys with tin can engine and puter brain

simple as
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
Yup. When the cost of fuel goes up, everything does. I wish so badly that we had invested more in nuclear energy rather than other nations having us over a barrel ba dum tss 🥁
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You expect trucks and planes to move around with nuclear reactors or something? I guess electric cars are a thing, but if you think everyone would shift to electric cars, then the entire electric grid would need to be upgraded. Which is a 20+ year project. Never mind the obviously added reactors etc to keep up with the demand.

Oh also the US can in theory meet gas demand with domestic production, but it's more profitable for our companies to export our (relatively cheaper) gas to Europe and Asia and sell it for more expensive as they can't meet demand themselves, and the Middle East can't ship to them.
 
moocow said:
It's one of the least-significant expenses in the average family budget
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The price of fuel affects almost everything. Transport of goods - deliveries. Heating. Industrial processes. Growing food, packing and shipping food. Fuel and energy prices affect all of it.
Here our fuel prices are over double what the are in the UK, and entire industries have been decimated all the way over Europe by the cost of energy. Filling the car up for commuting is only one small aspect of it.
 
mango_reseller said:
You expect trucks and planes to move around with nuclear reactors or something? I guess electric cars are a thing, but if you think everyone would shift to electric cars, then the entire electric grid would need to be upgraded. Which is a 20+ year project. Never mind the obviously added reactors etc to keep up with the demand.

Oh also the US can in theory meet gas demand with domestic production, but it's more profitable for our companies to export our (relatively cheaper) gas to Europe and Asia and sell it for more expensive as they can't meet demand themselves, and the Middle East can't ship to them.
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Yeah I’ll just admit a lot of this is out of my league lol. However I have one crazy take that I think could work: if oil is so important, don’t leave it up to private interests who can price gouge. Nationalize some oil drilling and just go crazy. Within environmentally friendly parameters of course, nothing reckless like the Soviet onion did.

(A country that didn’t care about human life certainly wouldn’t care about nature, like China today. I think a lot can be said about a country through its environmental policy.)

quaawaa said:
The biggest price gougers of oil ARE nationalized oil companies.
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Alright I’m just gonna shut up now
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
Yeah I’ll just admit a lot of this is out of my league lol. However I have one crazy take that I think could work: if oil is so important, don’t leave it up to private interests who can price gouge. Nationalize some oil drilling and just go crazy. Within environmentally friendly parameters of course, nothing reckless like the Soviet onion did.
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The biggest price gougers of oil ARE nationalized oil companies.
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
if oil is so important, don’t leave it up to private interests who can price gouge. Nationalize some oil drilling and just go crazy
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Yeah that's not going to work when you expect the private interests to fund 10-20 year long projects in Venezuela, upgrading the infrastructure there and taking all the risk etc etc. Especially when they've been fucked over by doing exactly that in the past w/ Chavez and the US government basically told them "tough luck" back then.

That's without mentioning of course that different governments would have radically different approaches to oil, making any long-term government planning basically impossible. Just think of the whiplash any US government approach to oil would take between Trump 1.0, Biden, and Trump 2.0, when those industries work with a horizon worth decades.
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
Alright I’m just gonna shut up now
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Your faulty assumption was that the state (or leaders/politicians) are benevolent or act in the public's best interest.

Democracy is a lie (at least the germans are kind of honest about it by rebranding as "militant/defensive democracy"), and populism got co-opted as a bad thing.
 
mango_reseller said:
Oh also the US can in theory meet gas demand with domestic production, but it's more profitable for our companies to export our (relatively cheaper) gas to Europe and Asia and sell it for more expensive as they can't meet demand themselves, and the Middle East can't ship to them.
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Part of the problem is there are different types of Oil and the kind of Oil the US has is not the kind the US can refine.

Now why don't we build refineries that can handle the type of Oil we drill? well ask the Hippy Generation that has done nothing to solve any problems since the 1970s when they got in power and refuse to let go of any sliver of power unless it is pried from their cold dead hands.
 
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