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Should be a wild four years.

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Switzerland has managed to stay out of the EU
Switzerland is a country of less than 10 million, mostly high educated individuals, with extremely strong fiscal discipline. In the US (and most countries let's be realistic) most people don't even know what they're voting for half the time.
Part of the problem is there are different types of Oil and the kind of Oil the US has is not the kind the US can refine.

Now why don't we build refineries that can handle the type of Oil we drill? well ask the Hippy Generation that has done nothing to solve any problems since the 1970s when they got in power and refuse to let go of any sliver of power unless it is pried from their cold dead hands.
Agreed, of course, there's nuance. I was talking about energy production, not really gas for cars.
 
Switzerland is a country of less than 10 million, mostly high educated individuals, with extremely strong fiscal discipline.
They are pretty average compared to european peers (like netherlands and france) wrt. education, and the fiscal discipline comes from the semi-direct "populistic" democracy you're complaining about.
 
They are pretty average compared to european peers wrt. education, and the fiscal discipline comes from the semi-direct "populistic" democracy you're complaining about.
The fiscal discipline comes from their constitution, everything else is secondary. In the US that could never work, and you can see it as just about most of the country asks for more money and less taxes. I'm all for less taxes, but then you gotta kill social security, medicare/medicaid, welfare, gut federal jobs, the military, stop subsidizing farmers etc etc etc.

Do you think you can achieve even one of the above if you let people vote directly?

And that's without getting in the fact that the US is first and foremost a republic where power does not lie so much on federal, but rather on state governments. And considering that most states are at this point solidly blue or red, you could say you have an effective direct democracy system on the state and local level already.

The Gas is the one that directly affects people in terms of Food and uh..Gas.
Yes, I was largely replying to the person saying we should do nuclear, in that message.
 
You expect trucks and planes to move around with nuclear reactors or something? I guess electric cars are a thing, but if you think everyone would shift to electric cars, then the entire electric grid would need to be upgraded. Which is a 20+ year project. Never mind the obviously added reactors etc to keep up with the demand.

Oh also the US can in theory meet gas demand with domestic production, but it's more profitable for our companies to export our (relatively cheaper) gas to Europe and Asia and sell it for more expensive as they can't meet demand themselves, and the Middle East can't ship to them.
We do have quite a number of oil burning power plants which could be mothballed in favor of nuclear.
 
Honestly, what is the Democrats end game once trump is gone? Vances a goofball so alot of people don't hate him as virulently as Trump. Rubio seems boring. Miller would definitely be trump 2.0 given how hated he is.
If Trump died they'd IMMEDIATELY flip to hating Vance just as bad. The NPC firmware update meme is real. They don't care about Trump or his policies, they were programmed to hate him so they hate him. We saw something similar with Bush and Cheney, but it wasn't near as bad, possibly becuase of the lack of networking and social media.

Whatever is causing this triggered madness we call TDS they've only gotten even better at doing it in the past 40 years. It's actually quite fascinating to watch, and in 100 years the conspiracy theories about "TDS experiments" used to cause half our country to go batshit crazy will be a fun read.
 
They don't care about Trump or his policies
I'm not a democrat or anything, but if I bring up Trump's policies and how much of a myopic shitshow they are, the responses will just be "cry more, liberal" or "you lost, get over it" or the classic "show hands". There's really not a point to engaging honestly, I don't see how you can't realize this.
 
I'm not a democrat or anything, but if I bring up Trump's policies and how much of a myopic shitshow they are, the responses will just be "cry more, liberal" or "you lost, get over it" or the classic "show hands". There's really not a point to engaging honestly, I don't see how you can't realize this.
The issue is that your views feel like the already discredited style conservative. I also feel that you want to maintain the financialization and globalization policies that were put in place and have been disastrous for Main Street encouraging outsourcing and also imported foreign labor. The problem is that this system is unsustainable and something would have broken it. I don’t feel you offer anything besides keep the status quo even in doing so just makes the problem worse.
 
Has anyone here read Tucker Carlson's NYT interview?

He says he regrets having Nick Fuentes on the podcast, then says Ted Cruz is worse.

He then simps for a fucking SOCIALIST because they both dislike Israel.

He then says he's still in touch with Trump's son (even after calling him anti-christ).

It's all too tiresome.
 
I also feel that you want to maintain the financialization and globalization policies that were put in place and have been disastrous for Main Street encouraging outsourcing and also imported foreign labor. The problem is that this system is unsustainable and something would have broken it. I don’t feel you offer anything besides keep the status quo even in doing so just makes the problem worse.
I have idealistic views which are very heavily libertarian, yes, but I also have pragmatic views based on how this country works currently. For instance, I think that pragmatically there needs to be a large number of deportations. I don't think the shock and awe approach helps. I think it actively harmed the whole outcome of mass deportations actually.

I don't think you necessarily need to buy into something happening to be able to discuss it, either. As long as you're not bad-faith playing "my team is better" of course. Like I can say with 100% honesty that the whole "be actively anti-racist" thing the libertarian party was pushing for like 2-4 years was and is extremely retarded. I can also say that the war in Iran was also extremely retarded without being bad faith about it, someone can argue and say "but China" which I will recognize, for instance, and offer my alternative view that China can still invade Taiwan as things stand. I don't know this all seems pretty divorced from what someone's ideology is, unless of course you're only discussing to further your ideology, which I personally avoid doing.
 
10 miles to/from work every day costs
I adore how stupid-angry people get about a change that generally has an actual impact on their monthly expenses. Glad you live in a nigger infested urban center where everything is close together but the other 60% of people may drive 30-40 miles one way so 80 miles a day. Each day is a lovely 2 gallons.
Nigger the trucker doesn't care what the gas costs.
I don't know if you are faggot, nigger, retarded, or all three. Transport companies will send out surge pricing to clients who then have to send out price adjustments to their clients when gas fluctuates and these costs piss everyone off. Getting told that for the foreseeable future all shipping will be up to 11% more expensive means it is back to the drawing board about the feasibility of certain projects. Just because you don't see an asterisk at the store saying, "This costs more because of increased gas prices". Doesn't mean it was not part of the price spike.
 
I adore how stupid-angry people get about a change that generally has next to no actual impact on their monthly expenses. At $2.50/gal, driving a car that gets 30 mpg 10 miles to/from work every day costs $1.60 per day to commute to/from work. Or about $35 per month to commute to work by car.

When gas "explodes" to $4.50 in price, that same commute is $3 per day, or about $63 per month to commute to work by car, a difference of ... wait for it, $28.

It's one of the least-significant expenses in the average family budget and even wild fluctuations to it have a minimal impact to the bottom line. If a $30 increase to commute price is really enough to throw your finances into flux, you have bigger problems, since literally everything else you spend your money on monthly (besides rent) can fluctuate more, namely electricity, groceries, insurance (if you pay month-to-month and have an accident, even when not at fault), kid's random expenses, etc.

Hurr-durr muh gas prices. "lol fuck off and drive less" is the correct response to such retardation, every fucking time.
Is this satire?
 
I'm not a democrat or anything, but if I bring up Trump's policies and how much of a myopic shitshow they are, the responses will just be "cry more, liberal" or "you lost, get over it" or the classic "show hands". There's really not a point to engaging honestly, I don't see how you can't realize this.
But you did have a pleasant back and forth before via my invitation I believe. That’s another reason I @‘d you. There’s hope, I feel. What would go a long way is respect between the two threads.
 
I adore how stupid-angry people get about a change that generally has next to no actual impact on their monthly expenses. At $2.50/gal, driving a car that gets 30 mpg 10 miles to/from work every day costs $1.60 per day to commute to/from work. Or about $35 per month to commute to work by car.

When gas "explodes" to $4.50 in price, that same commute is $3 per day, or about $63 per month to commute to work by car, a difference of ... wait for it, $28.

It's one of the least-significant expenses in the average family budget and even wild fluctuations to it have a minimal impact to the bottom line. If a $30 increase to commute price is really enough to throw your finances into flux, you have bigger problems, since literally everything else you spend your money on monthly (besides rent) can fluctuate more, namely electricity, groceries, insurance (if you pay month-to-month and have an accident, even when not at fault), kid's random expenses, etc.

Hurr-durr muh gas prices. "lol fuck off and drive less" is the correct response to such retardation, every fucking time.
How are you allowed to vote?
 
Anti-ICE fags BTFO by retarded security (AGAIN). This time, a website/app called GTFO ICE made by "google security researcher" and first trump admin leaker, Miles Taylor, exposes everyone's information:
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DataRepublican (small r)
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🧵🚨 BREAKING: Miles Taylor: "Anonymous," former DHS Chief of Staff, Google security executive launched a website called GTFO ICE that collects your full name, email, phone number, and zip code to join an anti-ICE "rapid response network." And publishes the user infromation via a public API. 🚨

17,662 people have signed up.

The sign-up data is exposed on a public REST API. No true authentication. No rate limiting. Full records: names, emails, phone numbers, zip codes, timestamps.

The man who ran the third-largest federal department (250,000 employees, $60 billion budget) who oversaw election security architecture and led counterterrorism operations, then served as Google's Head of National Security Policy...

...can't secure a sign-up form. But he does milk hundreds of thousands of NGO dollars on these credentials. While freeloading off his fame as the person who wrote the infamous NYT article "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

And despite me pinging @MilesTaylorUSA about this 12 hours ago, the REST API is still wide open and exposed as of now. Everything has been turned over to FBI, HSI, ICE, and more agencies.

As always, patience as I pull together the thread. 👇


May 2, 2026 · 2:17 PM UTC

DataRepublican (small r)
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Taylor's security clearance was suspended by presidential memorandum in April 2025. Trump called his conduct "treasonous." Five months later, Taylor launched DEFIANCE dot org. Five months after that... GTFO ICE.




DataRepublican (small r)
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GTFO ICE is a coalition of three orgs:

1. DEFIANCE dot org : Miles Taylor + Xander Schultz
2. Save America Movement : Steve Schmidt (yes, of the Lincoln Project)
3. Project Salt Box

DataRepublican (small r)
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Steve Schmidt co-founded the Lincoln Project. Raised ~$65M. Finances called under question when the money went to founders' consulting firms. AOC called it "scam territory." Co-founder John Weaver allegedly soliciting young men. Schmidt now runs Save America Movement ... same structure.




DataRepublican (small r)
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Scott Goodstein — GTFO ICE's "media contact" — was Obama's 2008 external digital director and led Bernie Sanders' 2016 digital fundraising ($218 million raised). His advisory board ties connect directly to the Arabella Advisors dark money network. "Grassroots."


DataRepublican (small r)
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$625,000+ in confirmed Arabella/Sixteen Thirty Fund dark money flows to GTFO ICE coalition principals:

• $300K → Lincoln Project (Schmidt)
• $250K → One for Democracy (Schultz)
• $75K → Defeat by Tweet (Schultz)



DataRepublican (small r)
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DEFIANCE.org calls itself a "nonprofit." I could not find IRS registration. It solicits monthly "memberships" up to $1,000/month... $12,000/year... with no known accountability.
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GTFO ICE's own site promises to secure data and notify users if their data is compromised. As of this post... no official notification has been sent to the 17,662 people whose information was exposed. So they are kindly being notified through unofficial channels.


DataRepublican (small r)
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The "bipartisan grassroots movement" is an unknown "nonprofit" run by Obama's digital director, Lincoln Project's co-founder, with hundreds of thousands in Arabella dark money... whose sign-up form was built by a former DHS Chief of Staff and Google security executive who left everyone's data exposed on an open API.

The man who ran homeland security couldn't secure a sign-up form. And we wonder why the government is such a mess.

THREAD END.
May 2, 2026 · 2:41 PM UTC


Here it is exposing Mark Ruffalo's email
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