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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Well surely the bomb squad would get there before the headlines were written? Big explosion, ok probably a gas leak, let's send the bomb squads to be safe, yep it's a gas leak, tell the press it's a gas leak. It could just be a preemptive thing considering the massive amount of terrorist attacks recently. It's not like they would have the time to sit and think who to send, it's probably just 'anyone who can fucking get there this instant'.
Yeah, it's probably a preemptive thing due to terror alerts is my guess, probably should've mentioned that.

Bomb squad gets called fairly often I think, especially nowadays. I remember them being on call for my college because one experiment we did for class ran the risk of producing a decent amount of TNT if we fucked up.
 
I’m on board with hating the vac packed mince - it doesn’t taste good, and its texture is changed by the packaging. It sucks and I refuse to buy it.
I’ve noticed a significant decline in the quality of all forms of produce since Covid. Meat and veg, everything is lower quality,
We are getting towards summer now and I cannot wait to have some homegrown veg that tastes like actual veg instead of watery veg shaped mush.
I’m done buying fruit & veg from supermarkets, whatever the time of year. Haven’t had a citrus fruit I could use in over a year, apples likewise, pears are insanely expensive, melons and pineapples over-ripe. Potatoes are okay but bloody expensive, mushrooms and peppers last barely any time at all. Stuff like broccoli and cabbage is tiny for the price.

Our local market sells much better quality stuff for a better price, and meat is likewise. Bonus points are a friendly face who remembers you, supporting a local business, and the market cafe with top notch tea & cake. RIP Sheffield’s old 1950s indoor market with a fish & chip cafe.

As for removing the triple lock on pensions, why are Blair & co moaning about population increase, when they support filling the country with millions of foreigners? The excuse that they work and pay tax for pensions is clearly bullshit, and they get old just like the natives too. It’s clearly an attempt to penny-pinch instead of not giving Ukraine billions and paying politicians stupid money to do nothing.
 
I've just seen that the papers are now saying it was a flipping domestic. Armed response is bad but when your domestic rises to the level of the bomb squad getting called in, blimey. What I find very curious is that they are searching another related property 3 miles away. And a neighbour of the property where the explosion happened said he went outside immediately on hearing the explosion & the armed police were already there. Plus the bomb disposal unit got their groovy little robot (photo from the scene shows the groovy robot) out & did a "specialist search"

"One neighbour said they had heard a 'loud bang' at around 6.30am and went outside but was told by armed police to 'get inside'."
"Specialist searches were carried out by the British Army’s Explosive Ordnance Disposal "
 
Sabine Mairey, who was suspended from the Greens due to anti-semitism, has been seen out campaigning in London.
Unsurprising since it's what was being suggested for them, to campaign as Greens whilst suspended.

Polanski is also scurrying back from his apology, because his trauma caused him to retweet that post. And he's repeating the Owen Jones line about the critique from the Met being interference in the sacred democracy.

Green Party leader Zack Polanski has suggested he retweeted “inaccurate” criticism of police officers responding to the Golders Green terror attack because he was “traumatised”.
But he also reignited his row with the head of the Metropolitan Police over the post, claiming Sir Mark Rowley’s open letter condemning Mr Polanski was inappropriate during an election campaign.
He also said he remained “concerned” about the officers’ actions, adding that everyone who works in public service “should not be above scrutiny”, and that actions must be “proportionate, no matter how brave”.

Mr Polanski apologised last week after sharing a post on X that accused Met officers of detaining the Golders Green attack suspect of “repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head” when he was already incapacitated from being Tasered.
Sir Keir Starmer was among those who lined up to condemn Mr Polanski, calling his actions “disgraceful” and saying he was “not fit to lead any political party”.

Asked on Sky News on Sunday why he had shared the post, the Green Party leader said that he had found the attack “very traumatic, especially as a Jewish person”.

“And I also found the video that was circulating online traumatic, too,” he added. “I accept, though, that conversation about that video needs to be had with the [police] commissioner rather than on X.”
Sky News presenter Trevor Phillips then asked: “You made a mistake presumably because you were traumatised, then?” Mr Polanski replied: “Well, you generally apologise when you make mistakes... it should be something I take directly to the commissioner and I accept that.”

But he also accused Sir Mark of airing his concerns in the wrong way. “Open letters aren’t an appropriate way to do politics either in a local election... and I’ll be having that conversation with the commissioner,” Mr Polanski said.
Later, during an interview on the BBC, Mr Polanski suggested he remains concerned about the officers’ actions. He told Laura Kuenssberg: “I was very concerned by what I saw, and I remain concerned.”

On the same programme, transport secretary Heidi Alexander called his actions “abhorrent”. Labour minister Steve Reed added: “Polanski’s apology clearly means nothing given he continues to denigrate the actions of our brave police officers.”

In a rare intervention last week, Sir Mark hit out at Mr Polanski for sharing the “inaccurate” post and later accused him of “undermining” the force.
Mr Polanski also faced a significant backlash within his own party.
The Green Party’s Welsh leader, Anthony Slaughter, told LBC that while he had not seen the tweet: “It does seem, from what I’ve read, [it] was inappropriate to retweet.”
The party’s deputy leader, Rachel Millward, who was also challenged about the post, told the BBC’s Question Time programme on Thursday that she was “extremely grateful” for the emergency service response.
“I’m sure it was beyond terrifying, and these people are brave, well-trained in what they do; I’m sure they did a brilliant job,” she said.
Sir Mark said in his letter to Mr Polanski that he was “disappointed” in the politician’s decision to share the post, warning that it could have a “chilling effect”.
He said officers were “nothing short of extraordinary”, adding: “Without their efforts to stop him, I dread to think what the outcome could have been.”

Books telling children refugees should be welcome. In case anyone thought that the Sanctuary City stuff was just harmless virtue signaling.
Children are being fed pro-migrant messaging through schoolbooks featuring cartoon lions in small boats.
More than 1,000 schools have signed up to a scheme that promotes a “culture of welcome” towards child refugees in Britain.
The affiliated Schools of Sanctuary network has shared several advised book lists with its membership of secondary schools, primaries, and nurseries.
In one of the books, mice teach children that “everybody’s welcome”, while others urge sympathy with lions arriving in small boats.
Some books tell children to reject the notion that a place may be “too crowded”, and instead to adopt the attitude that “there’s plenty of room, come on in”.
Schools of Sanctuary aims to make children into what it calls “ethically informed change-makers”.
The programme falls under City of Sanctuary, an advocacy network subscribed to by 60 local authorities.
One council promoted a book titled Kind, by Alison Green, which teaches children the virtues of being kind to “someone who’s new where you live”, including “brave and amazing” individuals who have had to “leave their countries because of danger”.

This point is illustrated by a flotilla of small boats filled with animals, including lions and giraffes, and it is suggested that children could “share toys” with these newcomers.

The next page says “sometimes people say we don’t have enough to share and there’s no room for anyone more”, but suggests to young readers that they can say “there’s plenty of room! Come on in!”
Accompanied by an image of a raccoon opening a door to a large bear, the story aimed at five-year-olds continues: “After all, if you don’t let people in, you’ll never know what you’re missing.”
Members of City of Sanctuary recommended the book, including Bradford city council, which promoted the story for World Book Day.
Another title used to teach pupils is Bobble by Helen May, which is about a blue creature called Bobble who runs aground on a beach in his small boat, having escaped an unspecified ordeal “far away”.

However, the island’s indigenous creatures oppose Bobble’s arrival, stating: “There’s no room for you here with us, you’ll have to try elsewhere. Travel to the next island, and ask if there’s space there.”
Bobble ends up saving the unwelcoming islanders from a natural disaster and they all migrate together by sea.
The book’s creators have stated that the children’s book was directly based on small boats crossing the Channel, and aimed to engineer “empathy” for migrants.
Another book used to instil a “culture of welcome” is the children’s title Everybody’s Welcome, in which a woodland mouse plays host to an increasing number of destitute animals, inviting them to join him “wherever they may come from”.

A story titled Elmer and The Hippos also teaches about asylum seekers and touches on the theme of limited space.
In this story, a herd of elephants is outraged that a group of hippos has “come to live with them” in their river, which has become “too crowded”. Elmer, the patchwork elephant, plays peacemaker, and in the end the two species become friends.
Dozens of local authorities, including Westminster, Brighton, Manchester and Newcastle, have signed up to be Cities of Sanctuary, and Wales is seeking to be accredited the first “Nation of Sanctuary”.
Typical Sanctuary projects include English language classes and cultural events to raise awareness for new arrivals.
Accreditations are determined by City of Sanctuary UK, a registered charity that has received funding from the Left-leaning Esmée Fairbairn Foundation, and Church in Wales among others.
Schools can apply separately for accreditation, and are expected to sign up to the same ethos of making refugees and asylum seekers welcome, while also fostering a broader “culture of belonging”.
In their application forms, teachers must pledge that their schools will join a “wider movement of welcome and stand in solidarity with people seeking safety”, and help pupils become “ethically informed change-makers”.
Schools must also commit to celebrating events such as Refugee Week, for which dedicated reading lists have been created. The 2025 list included Bobble and Kind.

A guide was also issued to help teachers organise a Day of Welcome event, in which schools were asked to raise funds for Schools of Sanctuary and “share stories of local refugee migration and involve parents and carers in showcasing and celebrating the diversity of your community”.
Further events are planned for Refugee Week 2026, which begins on July 15.
City of Sanctuary UK said that the network “works with schools to support a culture of welcome, inclusion and understanding for all members of the community”.
The organisation added: “Our suggested educational resources, including book recommendations, are designed to help children develop empathy, critical thinking, and awareness of the experiences of others.”

Sharing an image of cartoon character Bobble holding The Telegraph, Hannah Broadway, the illustrator, said: “Bobble is a picture book for children and grown-ups. It was created to make big conversations a bit easier. Much about migration and displacement is complicated and confusing, but we hope this book’s message is simple: act with compassion and love.”
She added: “I’m a big fan of picture books and believe they are a powerful tool to help us learn and reflect on things. I think if we treated adults like children, and children like adults, we might find a better way to communicate.”



Extract from 'Kind'
Sometimes people have lived through very hard times.
They’ve had to leave their homes and their countries because of danger
They are brave and amazing and have extraordinary stories to tell
How can you welcome them? Can you share your toys with them?


Extract from 'Bobble'
Finally he made it
He washed up onto land.
Bobble lay there for a while
Just playing in the sand
… He sadly wasn’t ready for the welcome he’d receive
... the others stopped their dancing, but they didn’t say hello
They didn’t want to welcome him, they wanted him to go
“There’s no room for you here with us
You'll have to try elsewhere
Travel to the next island
And ask if there’s space there”


Extract from 'Everybody’s Welcome'
Everybody’s welcome
No matter who they are
Where they may come from
Whether near or far
I do hope these people are surprised when they look to their left in Hell and see Goebbels next to them. I feel they deserve to have that shock.
 
Do you not need to grow them in the dark? I spend plenty trying to keep mould out of my cupboards, not sure I want to encourage it instead.
I mean mushrooms grow in a field or on a tree or something relatively unshaded all the time. All you need is a bucket with some holes in and to keep it away from incredibly bright and direct sunlight. I believe mostly because of heating and moisture issues not hatred of the light specifically.
 
I do hope these people are surprised when they look to their left in Hell and see Goebbels next to them. I feel they deserve to have that shock.
Considering the damage they're causing to everything, I think in the Hell pecking order they'd be below even the really nutty goosesteppers. Arguably enabling all the rape and pedo shit makes them even lower than the rapists and pedos themselves, Matthew 18:6 and all that.

I've just seen that the papers are now saying it was a flipping domestic. Armed response is bad but when your domestic rises to the level of the bomb squad getting called in, blimey. What I find very curious is that they are searching another related property 3 miles away. And a neighbour of the property where the explosion happened said he went outside immediately on hearing the explosion & the armed police were already there. Plus the bomb disposal unit got their groovy little robot (photo from the scene shows the groovy robot) out & did a "specialist search"
I stand corrected. My guess is it is indeed a bomb case (just early on) now, and the old bill aren't wanting to put it out in the open to avoid "inciting hatred" and all that garbage.
 
Mushrooms are incredibly easy to grow and maintain and it's just fun.

Could be a 'fuck you I'm turning the gas on and blowing up your house' type thing. Like intentionally wanting to create a gas fire.
I got the impression that the reason the armed police were already there was probably due to the other two adults who were present (a child was also present) they may well have called the police if it was kicking off. The two other adults & child were injured and now in hospital. If they thought it was gas as someone up thread has already pointed out they always say & mention that the gas board (or whatever the call themselves nowadays) are on site. They have not mentioned gas once. And they sent Mr robot in to check for bombs... weird. I'd love to know what the relationship is between the three adults & if they are 'local' or not
 
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Apologies if there is a thread on this but I cannot see one. Two people dead after an explosion in a house. My first thought was gas explosion however ......
Bomb squad in attendance but they have ruled out terrorism.
Armed police in attendance but they have ruled out terrorism.

"Avon and Somerset Police said the incident is not terror-related, but it has declared a major incident. Armed police swarmed the street and a bomb disposal team has also been deployed.
The cause of the incident is being treated as 'suspicious', but officers are not currently looking for anyone else in connection with the incident."
My bet is gas leak or drugs manufacturing plant. Normally it'd be pretty fucking unlikely for a gas explosion in 2026 considering how much effort would have to go into something for something that catastrophic to go off (like the sheer stench of gas would be enough to get the fuck out of the house) but the shit I've seen from 'cuzzies' and doleys who think it's fair game to tamper with a gas meter makes it significantly more likely.

Like gas is so ridiculously safe it's funny how people sperg out about it.

6:30 being the time the workers finish their shift at the crackhouse and light a cigarette right outside extremely flammable materials on the other hand is another likely theory but honestly at this point unless it's a genuine freak accident it's looking like a bunch of undesirables got torched so I don't really care.
 
Peppers are going wrinkled and breaking down in days is wild and very fucking irksome. Lidl charges £1.50 for two sweet ones and I have to use them within 3 days or they're fucked.
You can chop em and freeze them though, then you can add them to pretty much anything straight from the freezer. I grate a bunch of short dated cheese and chuck that in the freezer too, then every night can be fajita night.
 
Peppers are going wrinkled and breaking down in days is wild and very fucking irksome. Lidl charges £1.50 for two sweet ones and I have to use them within 3 days or they're fucked.
Another reason I avoid asda, tbh. The ones I get from morrisons last longer. Aldi tends to last longer. Lidl is extremely variable depending on location. The closer one to me is good because they get a lot turnover, so they haven't got maky shit hanging around ont he shelf. can't trust either of the germans for fruit, though, because there's always mould in there. Can't speak for sainsbury or tesco as I haven't been to either in years.
 
Apologies if this is late, but I searched and could find no mention. Given the OP of this post i'm surprised it didn't come up.

Who do we think Greggs is aiming this product at?

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A chicken isn't a sausage. Maybe they are both protein sources from animals but that's about where the similarities end. A sausage is made to be shoved in the warm hole of the pastrussy. A chicken isn't. Chickens are meant to be in a specific form factor. You can't just randomly shove meat products in a pastry and call it a day. Why don't they just make a tuna roll or something? Because it would be vile. On the conceptual level it is sinful. That is what chickens are. Only the offal from a pig deserves the loving warm blanket of pastry. Food has rules. If you break the rules you are sick. This is why we do not eat rhubarb sticks dipped in guacamale because it would be vile. We all know this. But yet we continue to push food into a sinful distorted form. Oreos do not belong in coke. Chicken does not belong in a sausage roll. Relying on retarded bullshit gimmick food is the sign of a struggling and dying company desperately trying to claw back relevance because their quality or value has slipped badly enough to need a quick injection of mindless consumers. No one will be a repeat chicken tuber. This is why you focus on your sausage rolls and make them the best that they can be. Because people will come back for them. People don't come back for gimmicks.
 
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