Cultcow Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[peep_show]

I'm sure @peep_show will opine, but I think a resonable person would figure that sex workers, many being reasonable folks themselves, would see "working with" the disabled, disfigured or ugly as part of the job... providing a needed service.. as long as those folks aren't assholes. You know, just like any job. Nurses deliver babies, but they also clean shit off old men. Most jobs have their glamorous and un-glamorous sides and it's all part and parcel.

I'm saying this because IMHO the fact that Russ "engages prostitutes" doesn't make him a bad person. My experience with "sex workers" is limited to bachelor parties, but I think in the US at least there's an undue stigma on the profession itself.

That stigma shouldn't mask the fact that Russ is a grade-A prick who exemplifies the classic "nice guy" - thinking women are all utilities and service providers and nothing more, and that they owe him unrestricted access and relationship-like intimacy for the most mundane of gestures.

Exactly And yep, the stigma is in many ways the worst part about it.

It's a job like any other. Sometimes you have a great day, other times it's crappy but I've only ever had one booking that squicked me out. In retrospect, I simply should have said no to the booking but there's a learning curve and you learn to be more assertive as you go.

Personally I quite enjoy seeing people with disabilities because I think we're a very isolating society these days as it is, I think a lot of people are starved for simple human touch and many people with disabilities even more so than those without.

I've seen clients on the autism spectrum, which is definitely odd because they're extremely hard to read and don't express themselves much, so you find yourself wondering if they're enjoying themselves or not.
I used to see a lovely guy who had had prostate cancer and was impotent as a result, so he had a pump inserted into his penis. The little button used to inflate the pump was in one of his balls and, negl, I was fascinated with it haha.
I have a regular at the moment who broke his neck simply from tripping over a curb- he can walk etc but it's difficult for him- he hadn't had anyone touch him in a gentle, intimate way for around 6 years. He was so humble and grateful that I didn't make him feel weird, that I was kind and sincere... He's a big (not penis haha) older man, 100% not my sort at all but I feel good knowing that I can bring some happiness into his day when he sees me.

I'd much rather a decent man with a pump in his dick than a good looking younger guy with a big ego. And I'd much rather do my job than many others (unless it's my own little second hand bookshop).

 

[cumpie]

I'm afraid Russ may be offline for a while. This is basically the worst thing that has happened to him since he was born as a half chimpanzee humanoid hybrid. When he had his breakdown in January and ended up getting fired for his public rants about the sex worker he alleged to have AIDS, Russ went dark for like 2 months and returned under a new FB washed of all his prior autism.

 

[GloriousScarf]

You just know that, if by some miracle Russ managed to open a brothel, he would be expecting free samples.

I would hazard a guess this is the only reason he wants to open a brothel.

 

[AnOminous]

The thing is, you shouldn't be penalized for bringing a reasonable lawsuit if you lose. You should only be penalized if you are being malicious. Loser always pays is bad because people are pretty likely to be bullied away from legitimate justice.

I wasn't disagreeing with what I'll call the "American rule," just pointing out it differs from what happens in other countries, especially European countries, where people might be reading this. Russhole getting assessed not just costs but fees is the exception, not the rule. In America, that means you dun goofed. In Europe, it would just mean you lost.

 

[Cripple]

You just know that, if by some miracle Russ managed to open a brothel, he would be expecting free samples.

If you read through his manifest about legalizing prostitution in Utah (the pdf is like...20 or 30 pages back) and/or his book on the matter; it's pretty apparent he just wants a harem he gets "first rights" to. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd require an "audition" of any potential worker.

 

[sharshorita]

@sharshorita

And your interpretation of the events is also fascinating. So do you think by the end, Russ understood at all what the judge was saying? Or does he have no grasp on reality at all and was just focused on the way he thought they twisted it?

No I do not think so. I don't think he understands that the judge was right. I think when he gets back he's going to complain about not being able to explain himself, not being able to read his statement, not being able to explain the whole negligence per se thing. Because at the end, even though they had already discussed negligence much earlier, he was still trying to bring up the people who worked at the event. That was the whole basis for his argument about negligence per se was that he thought they harassed him, and it's the duty of the people who he's suing for them to make sure they don't harass people. So the fact that he was still bringing it up much later means he didn't accept it. I don't think that would change.

I think that he was flustered by the fact that they were bringing up his Facebook posts. I think he's going to use that to say they were biased against him because of his "troll-y" posts. He'll never in his life understand that it's not harassment to ask where your seat is or make comments about you looking funny or giving you "weird looks." I don't think the judge changed that. He dismissed those ideas so quickly because they're ridiculous on their face. He was still making his argument to the end, so I don't think anything the judge said changed his mind.

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of praise - thank you so much, @sharshorita , for bringing back such a detailed account. How on earth did you do it, though? Were you taking shorthand notes, or what? I should have trouble remembering a fraction of what you were able to recall!

I am sorry for being coy about this. I have been thinking about what I want to say and/or do in regards to this. Yes, I was taking notes, but I think it's obvious that there's more to it. It's just too perfect for me to have tried to summarize. I was hoping that whole official audio thing would go through so it would be unnecessary for me to address it. I don't blame anyone for wanting to know more, and I do want everyone to have the opportunity to enjoy this almost as much as I, and everyone else who was there, got to. I still am not sure what I want to say. I know that not everyone would approve, based on what people said prior to the trial. Anyway, look, if you want to know more, PM me here or on Facebook (if you know me there) or on youtube.

 

[peep_show]

He's learned nothing. A cow to the end.

And @peep_show I'm okay with sex worker sperging. Russholio's misogyny is probably my biggest dislike of this cow and like many misogynists he seems to view sex workers as particular targets.

How much do managers/business owners protect workers against serial offenders like Russhole? Like how bad does it have to get before a client is banned like Russ was from the majority of Nevada brothels?

Also Russ wants to open a legal brothel in Utah. Would anyone work for him or is background checking standard in sex work?

It wouldn't take long before everyone put him on their "nope" list and seeing as he has absolutely no insight into how fucked up his behaviour is I would suspect he'd be barred very quickly from the majority of brothels.
Or it would be an eternal case of "sorry, all the girls are busy at the moment, I don't know when they'll be available..." until he got the hint. But Russ doesn't strike me as the type who would ever get the hint, so.

As for the background checks etc, absolutely not. I cannot imagine any sex worker who would agree to that, let alone his other patronising bullshit (I'll help rescue them from themselves, so they can leave the industry after 2 years... 'cause by then I've fucked them enough).
I honestly can't imagine anyone wanting to work at a Russ run brothel regardless of fucking him (retch) and I doubt many girls would, so he would end up with the most vulnerable girls as a result (but they have to be a 9 or a 10!).

Russ' other idea, that he would somehow be in charge of the girls and their medical history, is just another example of how much he wants to control the women around him IMHO but I can't imagine that being allowable (I hope not).

What Russ doesn't seem to understand is that the whole point of working in a brothel is that it's low key and anonymous. Privacy and keeping work and real life separate are essential. Even the GP uses our working name on the Cleared for Work certificate for privacy.

Giving personal info to your boss is basically handing over your power which could easily be abused, and in Russ' case absolutely would be- being blackmailed to have sex, even after you leave, having to pay him $ to keep quiet, all of that sort of stuff. It's nightmare fuel.

The only time the brothel sees our real name is when we show them our drivers licence when we start at the establishment- the brothel has nothing to do with our GP or access to our medical info outside of that certificate, they don't have our address, driver's licence number, email... nada except for a contact number (which they don't call but only txt).

Greer wants ultimate power over women and this is his best plan to get it and thank god he can't.

 

[cuenta_falsa]

I almost never write anything here (just passively lurk hehe) but wanted to say thanks to @sharshorita for her amazing work. It was really amazing and fun!!

 

[Cripple]

It wouldn't take long before everyone put him on their "nope" list and seeing as he has absolutely no insight into how fucked up his behaviour is I would suspect he'd be barred very quickly from the majority of brothels.
Or it would be an eternal case of "sorry, all the girls are busy at the moment, I don't know when they'll be available..." until he got the hint. But Russ doesn't strike me as the type who would ever get the hint, so.

As for the background checks etc, absolutely not. I cannot imagine any sex worker who would agree to that, let alone his other patronising bullshit (I'll help rescue them from themselves, so they can leave the industry after 2 years... 'cause by then I've fucked them enough).
I honestly can't imagine anyone wanting to work at a Russ run brothel regardless of fucking him (retch) and I doubt many girls would, so he would end up with the most vulnerable girls as a result (but they have to be a 9 or a 10!).

Russ' other idea, that he would somehow be in charge of the girls and their medical history, is just another example of how much he wants to control the women around him IMHO but I can't imagine that being allowable (I hope not).

What Russ doesn't seem to understand is that the whole point of working in a brothel is that it's low key and anonymous. Privacy and keeping work and real life separate are essential. Even the GP uses our working name on the Cleared for Work certificate for privacy.

Giving personal info to your boss is basically handing over your power which could easily be abused, and in Russ' case absolutely would be- being blackmailed to have sex, even after you leave, having to pay him $ to keep quiet, all of that sort of stuff. It's nightmare fuel.

The only time the brothel sees our real name is when we show them our drivers licence when we start at the establishment- the brothel has nothing to do with our GP or access to our medical info outside of that certificate, they don't have our address, driver's licence number, email... nada except for a contact number (which they don't call but only txt).

Greer wants ultimate power over women and this is his best plan to get it and thank god he can't.

Yeah, thank god his lolsuits have already marked him as a crank in the Utah law system who can never be taken seriously. Nevermind of all the states Utah would be the least likely to ever legalize sex work. And certainly Russhole's proposal would never be the one they'd use.

 

[peep_show]

I almost never write anything here (just passively lurk hehe) but wanted to say thanks to @sharshorita for her amazing work. It was really amazing and fun!!

IKR? Kudos

Yeah, thank god his lolsuits have already marked him as a crank in the Utah law system who can never be taken seriously. Nevermind of all the states Utah would be the least likely to ever legalize sex work. And certainly Russhole's proposal would never be the one they'd use.

Yeah, I assume the lawsuits and his online history would preclude him from ever running that sort of establishment. Fortunately he'll never have the means to open anything, anywhere except for his big fat mouth and even that is starting to have IRL consequences.

It's fortunate that he wasn't born into money, can you imagine if he had the means to realise his fantasies? Bloody terrifying.

 

[AnOminous]

No I do not think so. I don't think he understands that the judge was right. I think when he gets back he's going to complain about not being able to explain himself, not being able to read his statement, not being able to explain the whole negligence per se thing. Because at the end, even though they had already discussed negligence much earlier, he was still trying to bring up the people who worked at the event. That was the whole basis for his argument about negligence per se was that he thought they harassed him, and it's the duty of the people who he's suing for them to make sure they don't harass people. So the fact that he was still bringing it up much later means he didn't accept it. I don't think that would change.

I was going to ask about his facial expressions when the judge was dressing him down like this, but then I realized LOL he doesn't even have facial expressions.

But did he react in any visible way to any of this?

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

disabled?

When Russell was talking, sometimes for a word or two, he sounded like he was giving a talk in church about something spiritual. If you're not Mormon you might not recognize it. I found that very funny. It was like he was trying to use those same oratorical techniques. It was subtle, but I definitely picked up on it.

I'm quite surprised Russhole didn't stay in the LDS church and burn through every singles ward in a 50 mile radius, stalking every attractive young lady until she goes on a mission to escape his fuckery.

Can you imagine him being called as Bishop and doing worthiness interviews? (This is a one-on-one behind closed doors.) He'd be rubbing one out while asking a sobbing girl to describe in excruciating detail what exactly her boyfriend did to her in the backseat last Friday night. The Mormon community dodged a huge bullet when he left.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

What Russ doesn't seem to understand is that the whole point of working in a brothel is that it's low key and anonymous. Privacy and keeping work and real life separate are essential.
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This might be true in the in Europe but it's definitely not in the case in America. If you want to be low key in as a sex-worker in the US you'd stay very far away from the actual brothels - most of the women who work at them do so purely to increase their stature in the sex-worker/adult entertainment community. It's really just a matter of how few brothels we have and the sort of attention they attract. Women who want to be lowkey in the US generally stick with backpage/craigslist/various escorting focused messaged boards.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Can you imagine him being called as Bishop and doing worthiness interviews?

Nope, can't imagine this because you can only be called as a bishop when you're married.

 

[rustybutthole]

But did he react in any visible way to any of this?

For better or worse I couldn't see Russ's face during the trial. One thing that I found funny though was there were a couple of times that he quickly half raised then lowered his hand like he was going to object to what Skordas had just said but then chickened out (for example when Skordas mentioned the date thing with Katy Perry). He never actually said "objection" or anything and it was such a quick movement that I'm sure the judge just dismissed it as some sort of spasm.

 

[VS 156]

He keeps commenting pics and sending dm's to Instagram models even after the huge embarrassment at the court.. I wonder if he still writes that he's a paralegal in those walls of texts he sends to women lol

 

[The I Scream Man]

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agreed

 

[DarkAlien]

I wonder what Greg Skordas will do with his $1,500

He bought Katy Perry meet and greet passes so he can slip her his business card.

You just know that, if by some miracle Russ managed to open a brothel, he would be expecting free samples.

Of course. Quality control.

@sharshorita from a female perspective, what would you rate him as? If you knew nothing about him, at all. Just basedon't on what you saw, greasy mullet, I'll fitting clothes, is he like a 4? If you don't want to assign numbers... would you introduce him to your fat friend chick who hasn't gotten laid in a while and is kind of a bitch?

 

[The Dude]

I can't believe the slobbery mongoloid actually used the phrase "my awesome evidence" in court, in front of a judge, lawyers, bailiffs, law enforcement officers, and several other upstanding adults. That...just sums up Russhole so completely. It's the perfect summation of his whole being. It should be the title of a scandalous tell-all biography about Mr. Saggins.

 

[Lunachu]

Could we possibly get the after court video linked in the op?