Plagued Nice Guys

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This is by far one of the worst things that's been posted in this thread. I'm so fucking uncomfortable right now.
The term "cringe" is used a lot on the internet these days but this is the first thing that made me physically do so in ages.

This girl is obviously less of a sadist than me because I'd have kept him on my list just for the purpose of letting him make an ass of himself over and over. And we know damn well that'd happen, too, because these types won't quit as long as they believe they have even a sliver of a chance.
 
Don't think it's been posted yet but this one has a sequel:
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The same guy also made another post about this. It's since been deleted, but the comments are still there and it's a pretty funny read. Luckily, a guy in the comments saved the deleted post and pasted it there:
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He also asked for legal advice on getting a restraining order against the girl's boyfriend on her behalf:
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If he has more of a digital footprint, this guy would definitely be worthy of his own thread.
 
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Don't think it's been posted yet but this one has a sequel:
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The same guy also made another post about this. It's since been deleted, but the comments are still there and it's a pretty funny read. Luckily, a guy in the comments saved the deleted post and pasted it there:
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He also asked for legal advice on getting a restraining order against the girl's boyfriend on her behalf:
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If he has more of a digital footprint, this guy would definitely be worthy of his own thread.

I wonder how long it'll be before he asks r/legaladvice on how to win a sexual harassment case against him. Even if she doesn't discover all his Reddit posts, I have no doubt that she has messages just as creepy from him on her phone.
 
I wonder how long it'll be before he asks r/legaladvice on how to win a sexual harassment case against him. Even if she doesn't discover all his Reddit posts, I have no doubt that she has messages just as creepy from him on her phone.
Give it a few months, I'll also bet that when he makes the post on how to win the case his gonna make it sound extremely vague so it sounds like the womans in the wrong.
 
I really hope someone finds more on this guy. He could easily become one of my favorite cows with more content.
 
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Wait, what? Did somebody really believe that bringing your mom along on a date etc. wouldn't raise several red flags? O my.
 
Wait, what? Did somebody really believe that bringing your mom along on a date etc. wouldn't raise several red flags? O my.
No, he's talking about bringing his mom when he confronts her about her "abusive" boyfriend.

Though he DID mention introducing her to his mom.
 
Don't think it's been posted yet but this one has a sequel:
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The same guy also made another post about this. It's since been deleted, but the comments are still there and it's a pretty funny read. Luckily, a guy in the comments saved the deleted post and pasted it there:
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He also asked for legal advice on getting a restraining order against the girl's boyfriend on her behalf:
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If he has more of a digital footprint, this guy would definitely be worthy of his own thread.

Jesus. I was expecting him to disappear after the negative reception he got for his last thread. Like, getting a restraining order on her behalf?? That is creepy as fuck.
 
TBH there are lots of loveshy people who dont feel entitled to love/sex. I think they "they feel entitled" is a bit overplayed by people because of the loud disturbing noise a minority of incels make
If they don't feel entitled and don't behave like total idiots, they aren't "loveshy" or "incel" by the common definition. There are adults who have not yet had sex or relationships for a number of reasons -- illness, very conservative upbringing, very secluded residence (small village or farm), autism, being a catholic priest/monk/nun, working on a unicorn ranch, just not finding the right person, etc. -- but don't classify as "incel" because that term in itself has far more to do with an asshole mentality than with not getting your pickle/china wet. In fact, there are people around who have gotten theirs wet but still are somehow incel because they still whine on how all girls are sluts/all men are douches.

This seems to be an almost exclusively young white guy thing.
No.
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/The_Kentosphere
 
I really hope someone finds more on this guy. He could easily become one of my favorite cows with more content.

Some good stuff here:

https://www.reddit.com/user/menumessages

It seems the "abuse" is that the boyfriend wouldn't let his girlfriend go with this guy to a "gala".

Nope again twisting my words. You are saying I am upset that she wants to spend time with her boyfriend and that is not the case. I am upset because a good friend is being abused by her boyfriend.

I wasn't upset he drove her to the party, I was upset that he was so insecure he wouldn't let her go to a gala with her friend already had plans with.

I wasn't upset he picked her up, I was upset he made her leave from an event that she was really looking forward to, got all dressed up for, and would meet really important people that will help propel her career.

I wasn't upset she was bus with her boyfriend instead of messaging me. I was upset that he is deciding who she can and can't text after meeting someone for a few fucking minutes.

You're twisting my words and pretty badly I might add. Don't quit your day job.
 
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Don't think it's been posted yet but this one has a sequel:
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The same guy also made another post about this. It's since been deleted, but the comments are still there and it's a pretty funny read. Luckily, a guy in the comments saved the deleted post and pasted it there:
I6XyMxN.jpg


He also asked for legal advice on getting a restraining order against the girl's boyfriend on her behalf:
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If he has more of a digital footprint, this guy would definitely be worthy of his own thread.

Found a good Reddit post that links to the earlier the posts in the saga of Menumessages and the poor employee he's obsessed with. Here's a link to his most recent rant.

The first /r/relationship_advice thread actually blew up to the point where the top-rated comment has 15k upvotes. And it deserves each one:

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Oh, and someone in the comments reposted the original content since Menumessages always deletes his posts after he gets heat for them. NOTE: The repost is one big wall of text with no paragraph breaks, so I tried my best to reformat it.

So a little background to start off with: I work for a nonprofit where I'm the supervisor of 10 people that work under me. Last fall a young woman, lets call her Jennifer started to work with us through an outside fellowship. Now she's the kind of person that just commands attention as soon as she walks into the room. She is very pretty but just has one of those personalities that everyone likes you know? I had to train her when she first started but was very surprised by how quickly she picked everything up. We do a lot of legal work and it's not easy for people without previous experience to learn so quickly. So this should give you a good idea of the kind of person she is.

I immediately took a liking to her because of her work but also how easy she was to talk to. During our training, I would say we became pretty close. So much so that I would text her outside of work about non work related stuff. Also she sends me snapchats a lot, random stuff like shows shes watch like friends do. We even go to happy hour alone sometimes and I think I am the closest to her at work. One time she even had lunch with my mom and I when my mom was visiting town. So she is someone I consider a very good friend and want the best for her.

Now here's the problem. About two months into her working with us, I found out she has a boyfriend. TO CLARIFY I DO NOT HAVE ANY ROMANTIC INTERESTS AND DO NOT CARE THAT SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND. I really don't care that she has a boyfriend but felt a little manipulated that she never mentioned him before. I am supervisor, been training her for a few months, we have been talking about a lot of stuff so it just comes off as hiding something. People who work in small offices will know what I'm talking about. It was a little hard for me to trust her after that but I kept it to myself. She was still a great employee and her having a boyfriend did not change anything because apparently she has been with this guy for 5 years now. He doesn't live in the same city and they barely see each other from what I understand.

So months go by and everything is going really well. So much so that I was even thinking about recommending her for a promotion. We became even closer during this time. About two weeks ago our parent group is hosted a fundraising gala. I asked Jennifer if she wold like to go with me and she said yes. I always have a great time with her so I was really looking forward to it. The night of the gala I called to see when I should pick her up and she said her boyfriend was in town and he would drop her off so she will just meet me there. This is the first red flag I noticed. Is this guy really that insecure that he can't even let her date take her to this gala? Five years and this insecure? That's a problem. But I just agree and say okay I will meet her there.

I get to the gala and start to mingle. She eventually gets there but I don't approach her. Honestly, still pretty bothered by what happened earlier so I wanted her to come to me and apologize. She came up to me and we talked but she never apologized for what she did but I ignored it. Soon we were talking just like before and honestly really enjoying each other's company. Here's when I noticed the second red flag. Jennifer and I were talking to another couple when she excused herself because she had to take a call from her boyfriend. I thought it was pretty rude and she has never done something like this before. A little later she comes back and says that her boyfriend is picking her up and she will leave early. THIRD RED FLAG. She was very much looking forward to this night and suddenly she wants to leave early? You know when you can just tell someone isn't happy in their situation? Yeah I definitely felt it right away.

A little while later he gets there and I shit you not, this idiot walked into the gala wearing shorts and a t shirt. I almost wanted to laugh but I didn't want to embarrass him. Jennifer introduces me to him and I make pleasantries but I do make a joke about how must feel a little out of place. He says something like "nah, not really sticking around so not a big deal." Okay? I don't really get what that has to do with anything. My point was that he was at a black tie event dressed like he is going to the gym, I don't care if you're for five minutes or five hours, that's weird. So you can already see he is getting an attitude with me for no reason. I follow up with, "well there are some really important people here" and his response was something like, "I've met senators wearing flip flops, I think I'll be okay." Holy shit, I'm getting angry writing this. But you see what I'm talking about right? He completely rubbed me the wrong way.

So anyways, as she is leaving, I tell her to let me know if she gets home okay. It gets around midnight and she hasn't sent me a single message. So I sent her a text and no reply. I sent her another around 1am saying I am worried and just to let me know if she is okay. No reply. I have a hard time sleeping that night because I am genuinely concerned. It's just the kind of person I am. I need to know my friends are okay or it bothers me. I wake up the next morning after getting really bad sleep and she still hasn't responded. This makes me upset because I can see she has uploaded pictures on facebook but yet won't respond to my text. The only explanation is that her boyfriend is the reason. She always responds to me and at most a few hours later. So Sunday night I finally send another message really detailing how upset I was with how she was treating me. Also how I think how much control I feel her boyfriend was exerting over her was really making me lose respect for her. I always thought she is this strong independent woman and suddenly this guy is controlling who she can or can't talk to. Of course I get no reply.

Monday, inevitably we see each other at work and she confronts me the first thing in the morning. Before I even get a chance to speak, she says I made her uncomfortable and she wants to just finish her last two months of fellowship without any contact that is not necessary for work. This was about two weeks ago. I was really upset at first but honestly I've done a lot of reading. When you are in an abusive relationship, you stop seeing the world the way it is and only the way the abuser wants you to see. It makes me really sad that I am losing a good friend because her boyfriend has insecurity issues. So a few concerns here. She started dating him 5 years ago meaning she was only 19 and therefore this is pretty much the only adult "relationship" she knows.

Also the guy is a lobbyist! She wants to work in public service, help immigrants and refugees but yet dates a lobbyist? Does she really not see the contradiction here? I think over the past five years he has done a good job gaslighting her and it's to the point where it's affecting her relationship with other people and it breaks my heart to see this happen to a good friend. My question is this: what is the best approach to let her know of these concerns I have? How can you make someone who refuses to see reality to actually see what is happening? I have spoken to my mother and we both agree it would be best that she is also there when I approach Jennifer. However, do you think it should just be me alone or it would be better having a motherly figure also there to talk about something this serious?

And if we have this conversation and she still refuses to break up with her abusive boyfriend, what are the final steps that I should take? To be frank, I'm not sure I can remain friends with her if she continues to date him. I'm simply not the kind of person who will stick by someone who is willingly ruining their own life. I can't stop thinking about this and haven't gotten any work done today. I really look forward to your suggestions and thank you for all your help. For any of you that are currently in an abusive relationship, get out before it's too late.

tl;dr: My pretty good friend is in an abusive relationship but won't notice it. How do I get her to notice for her own good but also the future of our friendship?

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The part about getting a restraining order on her behalf is a giant red flag for an abusive personality. He's trying to isolate her from loved ones. Quite frankly, I'm surprised he has hasn't gotten a beat down from the boyfriend or even the woman herself for his horrific behavior. Also, it's not unreasonable for a boyfriend to express his discomfort that his girlfriend is talking to a dude who has obvious romantic inclinations towards her. It works both ways. If I was in a relationship, and some other woman made thinly veiled romantic overtures towards me, I'm sure my girlfriend would feel better if I stopped talking to that person. I'm not talking normal friendships, I'm talking when it's plain that they want to replace you as their boyfriend/girlfriend.
 
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Clearly he is a Supreme Gentleman.


God I hate wine critics/connoisseurs. They are such pretentious arseholes. I've never tasted a good wine, not because I'm uncouth or a plebian (surprised Chris hasn't used that one) but because they all taste like pisswater that has been between a Frenchman's toes.
 
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