Update: Chris' Hierarchy of Needs, and WANT MULTIPLES!

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No more VIDYA? This is officially the LEGO saga.

I really hope that this is the case. Maybe it's just my personal hatred of vidya, but I think this could be positive. As juvenile as Legos seem, there are some fully-functional, normal adults who collect and build them. Think about it: model building is a perfectly normal hobby, and many adults collect toys, so it shouldn't seem too far-fetched that some adults might enjoy Legos. Shit, the price tag alone on that Death Star is evidence of this. I personally don't get the appeal of it, but it's not necessarily dysfunctional or anything. Certainly an improvement from vidya.

Of course, Chris won't be Chris without some sort of material possession to obsess over.
 
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I really hope that this is the case. Maybe it's just my personal hatred of vidya, but I think this could be positive. As juvenile as Legos seem, there are some fully-functional, normal adults who collect and build them. Think about it: model building is a perfectly normal hobby, and many adults collect toys, so it shouldn't seem too far-fetched that some adults might enjoy Legos. Shit, the price tag alone on that Death Star is evidence of this. I personally don't get the appeal of it, but it's not necessarily dysfunctional or anything. Certainly an improvement from vidya.

Of course, Chris won't be Chris without some sort of material possession to obsess over.

I'm not sure that's accurate. In terms of integration into society, this may actually be a step backwards. Irregardless of our own personal feelings about video games, gaming as a hobby is far more widespread among adults than collecting toys. If Chris was going to be able to find common ground with other people, it's more likely to come in the form of sharing vidya stories than it is through lego collecting. His new hobby may, in fact, push people away from him somewhat. Whilst there's nothing wrong with collecting lego at all, anyone meeting Chris may find it a little odd. Not a problem by itself, but added to the laundry list of issues Chris has in social situations, in some small part due to his autism and mainly due to his own personal hangups, it's probably not going to help.
 
I really hope that this is the case. Maybe it's just my personal hatred of vidya, but I think this could be positive. As juvenile as Legos seem, there are some fully-functional, normal adults who collect and build them. Think about it: model building is a perfectly normal hobby, and many adults collect toys, so it shouldn't seem too far-fetched that some adults might enjoy Legos. Shit, the price tag alone on that Death Star is evidence of this. I personally don't get the appeal of it, but it's not necessarily dysfunctional or anything. Certainly an improvement from vidya.

Of course, Chris won't be Chris without some sort of material possession to obsess over.

I think part of this has to do with the fact that Chris has plenty of vidya on his online account. The fire didn't destroy that, or perhaps he already blew his tugboat on vidya and so is begging for money for legos.
 
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I'm not sure that's accurate. In terms of integration into society, this may actually be a step backwards. Irregardless of our own personal feelings about video games, gaming as a hobby is far more widespread among adults than collecting toys.

Also, the age of the average gamer is 31, with 71% of gamers being aged 18 or older. We're not all antisocial neckbeards who live in our mother's basements. :tomgirl: (Data points come from the Entertainment Software Association's Game Player Data for 2013, http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp)

If anything, Chris' current fixation on Lego is something I see as a regression. He's not an adult who enjoys Lego and wants to build a collection of sets that he can spend hours building and enjoy the sense of accomplishment that comes with serious enjoyment of a hobby. He's an adult who wants to have Legos so he can make his fantasy world into a three-dimensional playground where he can retreat from all the harsh realities of life and play pretend instead of sorting things out, getting a job, and dealing with the stresses that are part of adult life.

His post about what sets he needs and wants reflects this childishness. Hence the 'Please, thank you' at the end, as if just saying that will get other people to buy stuff for him. That's a tactic young kids use, not men in their 30s.
 
Honestly, there's nothing inherently wrong with a grown man playing with either video games or Legos. We all have our own hobbies, we all have our own idiosyncrasies, we all have our own little quirks. There are adults who build things out of Legos, and there are lots of adults who play video games. Hell, last weekend I was hanging out with some of my friends and we played Mario Kart. So yeah, playing video games can be a healthy way to bond with other human beings. If that's your thing, go for it.

The thing with Chris is that he does it in a very childish way. Instead of playing with Legos as a hobby, he devotes his entire life to it. It doesn't have a job, or friends, or relationships. All of his free time goes to playing with toys. And he isn't particularly original about it either. Sure, he's building replicas of things like his high school or CWCville, but you can see how its sort of like a kids fantasy. He's not trying very hard, nor does he want to create something complex or interesting. Its just about wish fulfillment for him. And he doesn't even have the money to pay for it so he begs other people. That's what really makes it pathetic.
 
I keep reading over and over here that "there's nothing wrong with collecting legos as an adult"

And well, its true.

The main problem with Chris interests is that he exclusively enjoys kiddy shit (some times kiddy and extremely faggy shit at the same time) and I cant think of any adult hobby or interest he may have...At most, he plays some teenager level videogames or watch some movie like Saw. But on both mediums his favorites by far are kiddy stuff like Pokemon, LBP, Skylanders or more embarrasingly both Hanna Montana movies/videogames (goddamit, Chris...)
 
I keep reading over and over here that "there's nothing wrong with collecting legos as an adult"

And well, its true.

The main problem with Chris interests is that he exclusively enjoys kiddy shit (some times kiddy and extremely faggy shit at the same time) and I cant think of any adult hobby or interest he may have...

Yes, I would agree with you. I mean, I'm not one to judge another man's hobbies or interests. I have friends who are into things that I just don't get, including some who are into stuff that I tend to think of as "kid's stuff." Granted, for most of them its more for nostalgia. But in Chris' case, he is only interested in kids stuff, often uncritically too. He actively avoids picking up adult hobbies but picks up on trends aimed at people decades younger than him.
 
It's like he's a exceptional individual or something.

Chris is kind of the perfect storm of failure. I have no doubt that he's autistic, but he goes well beyond that. After all, there are plenty of autistic people who are much more intelligent and accomplished (and, most importantly, happier) than Chris. The thing is, he is also kind of stupid (albeit not necessarily retarded), but also lazy and self-entitled. He's learned that people will do things for him if he whines loud enough, and puts the bare minimum effort into anything he tries. It doesn't help that he's genuinely uninterested in learning things too. So stupid, ignorant, lazy, bad upbringing... take your pick.

Chris could very well be retarded, but if he is, he'd actually be pretty high functioning. He can drive a car and find his way back to his house well enough. He can string together a sentence, even if his handwriting is sloppy. He invents neologisms and uses a lot of euphemisms when he talks, but he is at least able to communicate with other human beings. And he can read too. Certainly most things above a certain reading level will go over his head, but he is at least intelligent enough to function in society were he to put some effort into it.
 
Chris is kind of the perfect storm of failure. I have no doubt that he's autistic, but he goes well beyond that. After all, there are plenty of autistic people who are much more intelligent and accomplished (and, most importantly, happier) than Chris. The thing is, he is also kind of stupid (albeit not necessarily retarded), but also lazy and self-entitled. He's learned that people will do things for him if he whines loud enough, and puts the bare minimum effort into anything he tries. It doesn't help that he's genuinely uninterested in learning things too. So stupid, ignorant, lazy, bad upbringing... take your pick.

Chris could very well be retarded, but if he is, he'd actually be pretty high functioning. He can drive a car and find his way back to his house well enough. He can string together a sentence, even if his handwriting is sloppy. He invents neologisms and uses a lot of euphemisms when he talks, but he is at least able to communicate with other human beings. And he can read too. Certainly most things above a certain reading level will go over his head, but he is at least intelligent enough to function in society were he to put some effort into it.


And he also shown the ability to work, as he worked at Wendy's
 
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I'm not sure that's accurate. In terms of integration into society, this may actually be a step backwards. Irregardless of our own personal feelings about video games, gaming as a hobby is far more widespread among adults than collecting toys. If Chris was going to be able to find common ground with other people, it's more likely to come in the form of sharing vidya stories than it is through lego collecting. His new hobby may, in fact, push people away from him somewhat. Whilst there's nothing wrong with collecting lego at all, anyone meeting Chris may find it a little odd. Not a problem by itself, but added to the laundry list of issues Chris has in social situations, in some small part due to his autism and mainly due to his own personal hangups, it's probably not going to help.
As far as Chris is concerned I don't think it's really a move forward or backwards.

He doesn't exactly discuss video gaming with anyone or play multiplayer video games (Which might be a good icebreaker for him if somehow he had actual friends to visit him) but that's mostly because he doesn't want friends only girlfriends.

And he also shown the ability to work, as he worked at Wendy's
He also got fired from Wendy's, I have serious doubts Chris can hold down a job that requires him to interact with the public since he just doesn't understand what is socially acceptable behavior.
 
He also got fired from Wendy's, I have serious doubts Chris can hold down a job that requires him to interact with the public since he just doesn't understand what is socially acceptable behavior.

Because he acted like an idiot. He could conceivably learn socially acceptable behaviour, if someone worked with him, holding his hand every step of the way, but also firmly scolding him when he messes up. And, perhaps more importantly, if he actually put any effort into learning. As I said above, he's many things, including both lazy and willfully ignorant. He actually doesn't want to learn new things. He expects the world to love and reward him just as he is...
 
I think it should be pretty evident by now that Fatty is not only resistant to change but will actively fight against it. Be it in that pathetic passive-aggressive method of his.

In short he is living the life he chose and deep down he wants. That's why he should be left to wallow in it, you get out of life what you put in.
 
I have no doubt that he's autistic, but he goes well beyond that. After all, there are plenty of autistic people who are much more intelligent and accomplished (and, most importantly, happier) than Chris.

... There are plenty of autistic people who are far less accomplished than Chris, too. I don't get your point.
 
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