Furry Fandom and Drama General

Furries are sexual deviants not "wonderful"
Literally all I want is for one "popular" furry to fucking admit that furry is a fetish, and that the fandom is built around a fetish. It's so obvious. Even the work-safe shit is so clearly building on a sexual desire its consumers have, but people like Uncle Kage (the unofficial ringleader of the fandom) try their damnedest to make it look family-friendly.
 
Literally all I want is for one "popular" furry to fucking admit that furry is a fetish, and that the fandom is built around a fetish. It's so obvious. Even the work-safe shit is so clearly building on a sexual desire its consumers have, but people like Uncle Kage (the unofficial ringleader of the fandom) try their damnedest to make it look family-friendly.

Amusingly enough, there was a 2 rant on a subject tangential to this (I think the quote was 'Furry cons are brothels!') that became the fucking Lost Scroll of mid-2000s fandom. Because Kage made him take it down, naturally.
 
This is the viral l̶o̶a̶d̶ image proliferating thru the furry twittersphere allowing every socjus furry to step up on the soapbox and triumph the intersection of eyesore, lack of ambition, amorphous identity, soy, high fructose corn syrup, and overfetishization trickling down to "sfw" as: Furry after the defeat of the ~male gaze~
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I think that image has the opposite effect than what it was intended to have (which was to promote how "diverse" furries are now). At least the 1999 character doesn't have an eyesore color scheme straight out of someone's MySpace/Geocities/Old YouTube profile. If anything, it reinforces my theory that furry lifestylers never grew out of their sparkledog phase back in middle school while being unaware of why everyone else laughed at them when they were using school computers for deviantart instead of going on AddictingGames or Miniclip like every other kid in middle school did.
 
I think that image has the opposite effect than what it was intended to have (which was to promote how "diverse" furries are now). At least the 1999 character doesn't have an eyesore color scheme straight out of someone's MySpace/Geocities/Old YouTube profile.
It's a pleasing design/color scheme and nothing like the mess we have now. That just looks ugly to me! Yet these people want to see the unconvention become the convention.

If anything, it reinforces my theory that furry lifestylers never grew out of their sparkledog phase back in middle school while being unaware of why everyone else laughed at them when they were using school computers for deviantart instead of going on AddictingGames or Miniclip like every other kid in middle school did.
In some way, it's a case of not taking a cue from what is accepted or enforced through society and awareness.
 
This is the viral l̶o̶a̶d̶ image proliferating thru the furry twittersphere allowing every socjus furry to step up on the soapbox and triumph the intersection of eyesore, lack of ambition, amorphous identity, soy, high fructose corn syrup, and overfetishization trickling down to "sfw" as: Furry after the defeat of the ~male gaze~
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This is typical of the Tumblrinas and of much of the detritus that has found its way in to the fandom - they are ugly on the outside and the inside, and wish to reduce everything to the lowest common denominator, usually themselves. This is why modern art and architecture is in its present hideous state.

I was curious about who these dipshits were, so I pulled up their Twitter profiles and surely enough, they have their pronouns on there because they're such special little snowflakes, and one is a communist.

Finally, a use on the word "space":
Every wonder why SJWs love to use the word "space"? "Safe space", "this space" and so on? Because they're viewing all matters of discourse as a field to be conquered in a war. Their aim is essentially to turn every non-contained space into a "safe space". Essentially fulfilling the predictions for the future that Kojima warned us about...

In order to achieve this, they understand that the first step is to identify the threat against their central goal and contain it immediately before it escapes into their "safe spaces". Overt time, through infiltration and astroturfing methods (which we will discuss later), they have managed to gain control or create the majority of the platforms used by people to communicate with each other. The understand the Streisand effect (and have strategies to deal with it, which we will discuss shortly) but the threat of narrative inversion, of having their narrative being seen as false by the majority of people, is far too great to ignore growing attention to the threat at hand.
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Recently, there was a Twitter user, coyotecandy (locked), who claimed she got scammed by a 14 year old for a $3k fursuit slot. The thing is, the slot was originally $2k, but she decided to raise the price to sell instead of letting the artist, who she paid for the slot, know she didn't want the slot anymore and could've been refunded, but no. Selling to a minor for $1k more was better. Apparently the parents of the minor found out and asked for coyotecandy to refund the $3k.
Immediately after this happened, coyotecandy had a friend setup a GoFundMe for her to help refund the family because apparently she spent the $3k on helping another friend not be homeless, paying off rent, bills, and other debts. She claims she'll lose her house if she refunds the parents, and she's also hiring an attorney, which is more money down the drain, to help sue the kid.
I am making this because I don't know what to do.

I had sold a slot for a custom made fursuit that I had owned (I had the slot from another maker, Fuzzworks) That I had to sell due to a dire need for cash to pay my bills. I was contacted by Afton Campbell on Instagram a few days later. They claimed to have wanted to purchase my fursuit slot, and were very compassionate about purchasing the slot from me.

I asked if they were a minor, and stated if they were, I needed an email from the parent along with a photo of their ID to confirm that they were giving permission for the child to purchase the suit slot. I got the email along with the photo of the ID, so I believed it and sold them the slot.

This morning I received a message from the child's mother, claiming that the child had stolen their credit card and purchased from me, and many others. I cannot afford a chargeback on my account as I will literally lose everything that I own. My cats, my house, my belongings, everything. I will be out on the street.

I spent the money on helping a friend not be homeless, groceries, rent, and debts I have.

I'm going to be trying my hardest to get this resolved, but seeing how paypal usually sides with the buyer if the claim is filed through a credit card company, I am at a loss.

Please DM me on twitter if you donate. I would like to put together a huge thank you photo for everyone who donates. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you guys SO much for all of the support ! I am currently working on the beware and trying to contact the mother about setting up a payment plan to refund the money that the child stole from their mother. Wish me luck!
!! UPDATE !! Last night I was given the email address of Afton's Step father. I had sent him an email stating what happened, and how I would like to resolve it.

This morning I get an email response from Afton's step father and he had agreed to cancel the claim and have me refund him myself!

I am so grateful to everyone who has helped me during this ordeal. I'm almost to my goal so I can hopefully refund the family in full!

Thank you all so, so so much. From the bottom of my heart. This means so much to me.
A few days after this happens, coyotecandy is seen tweeting to artists claiming $60 character designs and purchasing items off of storefronts.

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And her story changes from her being afraid of losing her house to her helping her friend not lose their house.
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She's now gone on lockdown mode. She's now selling a different suit she won a bid on for $2k OBO. The ride never ends.
 
I think I've finally realized just what it is that bothers me so much about furries. (Aside from the obvious.)

There are people out there with kinks that could be considered way more 'normal' than furry stuff. Like maybe they're still not comfortable accepting themselves as gay. Or maybe they obtained a kink from childhood sexual abuse.

The emotional struggle to get a grip on these urges and/or accept themselves as they are is real for these people and some do everything they can to seek help for it. Meanwhile furries are out there parading thier crapped adult daipers and fursuits in public like it's something to be proud of.

The people who should be ashamed simply aren't and the people who shouldn't be quite so ashamed can hardly bear themselves.

Life is fucked up, sometimes. (:_(
 
I think I've finally realized just what it is that bothers me so much about furries. (Aside from the obvious.)

There are people out there with kinks that could be considered way more 'normal' than furry stuff. Like maybe they're still not comfortable accepting themselves as gay. Or maybe they obtained a kink from childhood sexual abuse.

The emotional struggle to get a grip on these urges and/or accept themselves as they are is real for these people and some do everything they can to seek help for it. Meanwhile furries are out there parading thier crapped adult daipers and fursuits in public like it's something to be proud of.

The people who should be ashamed simply aren't and the people who shouldn't be quite so ashamed can hardly bear themselves.

Life is fucked up, sometimes. (:_(

The greatest sin furries have committed is the culture of "tolerance" they've established for themselves. In the beginning it was more, "we're strange folk who still really like cartoons and cute animals let's be friends and not fight" but the second fetishists started moving in they co-opted the, "let's be friends and not fight" to every gross fucking intolerable nightmare that turned them on. So when people try and argue how the fandom isn't all about sex, they are half right. In the start it wasn't. Sure there was nudie cheesecake animal girls in the same vein as Alberto Vargas or Bettie Page, but it wasn't about that. Now though there's an obvious distinction between artists who simply draw anthropomorphic animals and the other 90% who draw that annnnnnnd tons of pornography. The tolerance is such a permeating factor you have people like Half-Dude (the guy who admits wanting to fuck cars and who draws himself fucking cars) and anime artists who would even be kicked out of weeb art groups for drawing diapers or inflation constantly who are able to view the fandom as a safe-haven for their kinks.

All this tolerating other people and stamping out criticism has basically allowed people to indulge themselves to such a point it's really become unhealthy like you've pointed out. Their kinks spill into real life and they view anything they say and do as completely sane and acceptable. People with an almost mentally ill fixation on sexual stuff just waltz on into furrydom knowing they will find their echo chamber of tolerance. Hell, even people with criminal fetishes like bestiality and pedophilia do the same thing.

It sure makes it hard to point and laugh at the whole thing sometimes.
 
Y'know, back in the day, I thought the height of fandom hubris was if somebody dressed up in a Starfleet uniform went into a grocery store or whatever and acted all "Vulcan." Seems pretty tame by today's standards.
At least when someone is cosplaying they might recognise the character and find it funny but with fursuits it's just an ego driven OC.
 
Recently, there was a Twitter user, coyotecandy (locked), who claimed she got scammed by a 14 year old for a $3k fursuit slot. The thing is, the slot was originally $2k, but she decided to raise the price to sell instead of letting the artist, who she paid for the slot, know she didn't want the slot anymore and could've been refunded, but no. Selling to a minor for $1k more was better. Apparently the parents of the minor found out and asked for coyotecandy to refund the $3k.
Immediately after this happened, coyotecandy had a friend setup a GoFundMe for her to help refund the family because apparently she spent the $3k on helping another friend not be homeless, paying off rent, bills, and other debts. She claims she'll lose her house if she refunds the parents, and she's also hiring an attorney, which is more money down the drain, to help sue the kid.
I am making this because I don't know what to do.

I had sold a slot for a custom made fursuit that I had owned (I had the slot from another maker, Fuzzworks) That I had to sell due to a dire need for cash to pay my bills. I was contacted by Afton Campbell on Instagram a few days later. They claimed to have wanted to purchase my fursuit slot, and were very compassionate about purchasing the slot from me.

I asked if they were a minor, and stated if they were, I needed an email from the parent along with a photo of their ID to confirm that they were giving permission for the child to purchase the suit slot. I got the email along with the photo of the ID, so I believed it and sold them the slot.

This morning I received a message from the child's mother, claiming that the child had stolen their credit card and purchased from me, and many others. I cannot afford a chargeback on my account as I will literally lose everything that I own. My cats, my house, my belongings, everything. I will be out on the street.

I spent the money on helping a friend not be homeless, groceries, rent, and debts I have.

I'm going to be trying my hardest to get this resolved, but seeing how paypal usually sides with the buyer if the claim is filed through a credit card company, I am at a loss.

Please DM me on twitter if you donate. I would like to put together a huge thank you photo for everyone who donates. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you guys SO much for all of the support ! I am currently working on the beware and trying to contact the mother about setting up a payment plan to refund the money that the child stole from their mother. Wish me luck!
!! UPDATE !! Last night I was given the email address of Afton's Step father. I had sent him an email stating what happened, and how I would like to resolve it.

This morning I get an email response from Afton's step father and he had agreed to cancel the claim and have me refund him myself!

I am so grateful to everyone who has helped me during this ordeal. I'm almost to my goal so I can hopefully refund the family in full!

Thank you all so, so so much. From the bottom of my heart. This means so much to me.
A few days after this happens, coyotecandy is seen tweeting to artists claiming $60 character designs and purchasing items off of storefronts.


And her story changes from her being afraid of losing her house to her helping her friend not lose their house.
She's now gone on lockdown mode. She's now selling a different suit she won a bid on for $2k OBO. The ride never ends.
This person has a history of scamming people and is a known murrsuiter who resells her suits without telling people what she actually does in them. She likes to "I'M LEAVING THE FANDOM 5EVAH!" and DFE whenever she gets caught, then comes back under a new name.
Artist Beware (real name here matches name she lists on her coyotecandy FA account)
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Recently, there was a Twitter user, coyotecandy (locked), who claimed she got scammed by a 14 year old for a $3k fursuit slot. The thing is, the slot was originally $2k, but she decided to raise the price to sell instead of letting the artist, who she paid for the slot, know she didn't want the slot anymore and could've been refunded, but no. Selling to a minor for $1k more was better. Apparently the parents of the minor found out and asked for coyotecandy to refund the $3k.

She's an idiot. You can't sue a minor for contract since they don't have the legal capacity to enter into one outside of a few exceptions.
 
The information I could find on this guy is rather limited, so if any of you could help gather some more, that would be terrific.
Here's what I have gathered.
Ryan Hill is another furry that displays serious autistic behaviors.
He, at any given time, runs several facebook accounts, many under his name.
The following are two of his accounts.
https://www.facebook.com/ArkansasFox
https://www.facebook.com/lemonagekyrubui
He is well known online due to his obsession of drawing scat porn of other peoples' characters.
He was also interviewed with his mother by Khord Kitty on youtube.
According to his mother, his behavior stems from him trying to connect to people and make friends.... By posting scat porn....
From what I can gather, he lives in either Modesto, CA or San Jose, CA. More specific details are needed there.
Any further information that can be gathered would be appreciated here.
 

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Because everyone in tyool 2k17 needs asspats now we got PSA for validating the identity of "partial fursuits" ie. people that bought just a head and some paws instead of the full shag carpet:
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full text inside 1. Furries are sexual deviants not "wonderful"
2. taking the 90-9-1 approach I'd wager 1% of the fandom has a fursuit 9% go to cons and 90% are just web only. So this partial I'd imagine would already put them in the 1% of furfandom
3. "skin showing" is in a tit-for-tat response to an earlier twitter post decrying lazy partial fursuiters showing human skin and not wearing a long t-shirt. This poster obviously disagrees and probably thinks having to put on contextual appropriate attire is "ableist"
4. Again, if you can't afford a full fursuit why the fuck are you buying a partial since the head is the most expensive part and more than a grand. Maybe you should spend more focus on your real life matters than being nigger rich with a fuzzy clown mask.
5. Nazi fur shoutout lmbo
6. Gay love shower and re: be proud furry is not any more valid an identity than thinking you are a douglas fir tree. Its a fetish not a lifestyle and atleast someone proud of like _RC car racing_ could win a race or something. You just win the web's special olympics.
A friend told me this subject became a debate because some photographer complained that partial fursuits ruined his group photos. It's a dumb topic, partial or full suit you're still a degenerate animalfucker.
 
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This'll be short and succinct, but here goes:

Emily Wiloughby is a relatively high-profile palaeoartist with both an impressive artistic record and a chronic inability to get over herself. She’s best known for her many gigs both with large publishers and artbooks, but underneath that impressive record is an underbelly full of drawings of the dinosaur versions of her and her boyfriend having sex, with some good ol' fetishes mixed in there. Both her gallery and scraps are worth going through.

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From this piece, if you want the supplemental art:

"Rodent had been minding his own business up in a tree, sunning himself on a branch on a warm summer afternoon. He didn't hear the approach of the large female Deinonychus and her mate until they were right beneath him, but even then he didn't worry unduly: they were far enough below him that he should be safe up here. He didn't expect the plump, muscular female to perch upon the back of her mate as he struggled to hold her up, his comparably thinner frame quivering with the strain of her mass.

With the additional amount of height given from her hapless mate, though, Ixerin was able to arch her body upwards and snap her jaws around the rat's torso. She then sat back down heavily upon her mate's back, causing his eyes to bulge briefly and a brief "oomph!" of breath to escape him, momentarily winded.

The sudden tug pulled Rodent from the crook of his tree, but his lower half became wedged in the crotch of the branches as Ixerin sat. With an audible ripping noise, the poor rodent was instantly rent in two, his spine snapping loudly and his skin pulling tight and then bursting open like an overripe melon, spilling hot and glistening viscera into the warm afternoon air.

The hedonistic Deinonychus female remained utterly oblivious to the struggle of her mate below her and to the sudden intense pain of the rodent in her jaws. His shrill squeak was music to her ears, a pleasant sound that often preceded a good meal. With a smug, satisfied smile, the female threw back her head and gulped down the still-struggling upper half of the rodent, his twitches feeling oddly stimulating to her as he slid down her throat.

His lower half remained wedged in the crook of the branches, kicking feebly. The viscera hung from his open abdomen, staining the pebbles and Cayro's tail below with red. Ixerin would either share the other half with her loyal mate, or he would have to content himself with licking the blood from her muzzle after she was fully satisfied. :)"

That's not to say weird fetish art done by now-professionals is an uncommon thing, but it's rather funny when juxtaposed with the fact that she has an uncomfortable obsession with IQ and intellectual superiority.

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Judging from what I'm seeing, she seems to have a good grasp on the anatomical structures of dinosaurs and other animals. She's not a bad artist, but she's hamstrung by her ego, fur faggotry, and her fetish for seemingly wanting to fuck dinosaurs.
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Oh she's a wonderful artist, no doubt about it. Copious amounts of self-insert dromaeosaur fucking and crush/vore art aside, she keeps well on top of her research and her scientific illustrations are well worth their merit. She's got incredible talent.

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"I guess that old Transmogrifier that Ixerin found ended up having a "giant scary theropod" setting too. Who knew? So, naturally, the first thing she decided to do with her newfound state as a Tyrannosaurus rex was to track down a busload full of furries and eat all of them in one go. "

Her vehement hatred of furries is almost funny.
 
I have a partial fursuit myself; I could have gotten a full suit but decided against it since I was concerned about overheating. I already have a nice hockey jersey collection, and they are ideal for partial suiting:
They are loose fitting, especially in the sleeves, preventing skin from being shown (and showing skin while fursuiting is to be avoided with the exception of an emergency) and presenting the illusion of the larger form suggested by the fursuit head and paws.
The mesh construction means it does not insulate, so wearing an under armour shirt underneath will keep things relatively cool. Football jerseys do not have this effect, but I've seen it work if the shirt underneath is loose. I've also seen people partial-fursuit with BDUs (old military surplus camo).

That said, I rolled my eyes at this bossy Tumblresque attention-whoring "public service announcement". To paraphrase Thatcher, a good appearance in fursuit is like being a lady - if one has to tell people one is, one isn't. Whether it is with or without a body suit is irrelevant as the goal is to present the illusion that one is a certain furry character.

To those who study other lolcows esp. in other fandoms & subcultures - is it mostly chicks who do this crap? In my limited observation, I notice that they tend to have the impetus to police subcultures through nagging, bossiness, and general petulance.

Because everyone in tyool 2k17 needs asspats now we got PSA for validating the identity of "partial fursuits" ie. people that bought just a head and some paws instead of the full shag carpet:

1. Furries are sexual deviants not "wonderful"
2. taking the 90-9-1 approach I'd wager 1% of the fandom has a fursuit 9% go to cons and 90% are just web only. So this partial I'd imagine would already put them in the 1% of furfandom
3. "skin showing" is in a tit-for-tat response to an earlier twitter post decrying lazy partial fursuiters showing human skin and not wearing a long t-shirt. This poster obviously disagrees and probably thinks having to put on contextual appropriate attire is "ableist"
4. Again, if you can't afford a full fursuit why the fuck are you buying a partial since the head is the most expensive part and more than a grand. Maybe you should spend more focus on your real life matters than being nigger rich with a fuzzy clown mask.
5. Nazi fur shoutout lmbo
6. Gay love shower and re: be proud furry is not any more valid an identity than thinking you are a douglas fir tree. Its a fetish not a lifestyle and atleast someone proud of like _RC car racing_ could win a race or something. You just win the web's special olympics.
 
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