Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[xyrichard]

I'm beginning to worry that I'm being trolled.

 

[Barbarella]

Sorry if this has been shared already but what in the actual fuck? I've read Twilight fan fiction better than this

Oh it's so horrible. Both the ideas and the technical writing are diseased. Makes me itch.

Come on Russ, release the damn thing! I really must know what your black owl does next, and also I'm curious why a guy who can view teardrops from a mile away didn't happen to see an owl flying towards him?

 

[Peachfuzz]

My guess is that her lawyers are watching. They'll wait until the book comes out before sending a Cease and Desist letter.

It reminds me of the whole Russet Noon fanfare issue from years back. https://fanlore.org/wiki/Russet_Noon

One thing that Russell doesn't seem to understand. He's pitching his novel as non-fiction with fiction elements. Such things don't exist. And no, he can't write Taylor Swift into a novel without consent. He can't use her song lyrics either. And he absolutely can't depict her as having sex with him. All of this is grounds for a lawsuit. But I doubt the lawyers will go that far. A cease and desist form will probably be enough.

 

[Fag Smut]

They'll send the C&D to Amazon, Amazon will pull it, and Russ will begin his next legal quest - suing biased Amazon.

The book is open & shut libel. He's pitching it as a (mostly) non-fiction* and calls it a true story on the cover.

* something is either non-fiction or it isn't. If there is any fictional aspect, it is fiction. So really, it's autistic fan fiction about a drooling re-tard dating Taylor Swift. But the fact that he calls it non-fiction in any capacity, including saying it's "inspired by true events" on the cover solidifies it as libel against TS.

For a brilliant legal mind, publishing this book is extremely ill advised. At this point she has a strong case to sue him for harassment and get a restraining order against him. Not to mention the aforementioned libel case.

 

[Goofy Logic]

All of this is grounds for a lawsuit. But I doubt the lawyers will go that far. A cease and desist form will probably be enough.

It depends on how Russ reacts to that C&D that will cause the lawyers to switch the ball peen for a sledgehammer.

On the other hand, a C&D would likely be enough for whoever he publishes with to drop the book.

 

[Dontfeedthelulz]

I know Scarlett Johansson sued some guy who directly used her likeness in a novel about a mechanic who couldn't get laid. His terrible excerpt reminded me of it.



Russhole's weird self-insert fan fiction sounds like it'll be way worse than just using someone's likeness. I'm fairly certain Swift or her representatives could sue.

Either way, sounds like Russ and the aforementioned author are cut from the same cloth, except the novelist has actually achieved some modicum of success.

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

My guess is that her lawyers are watching. They'll wait until the book comes out before sending a Cease and Desist letter.

It reminds me of the whole Russet Noon fanfare issue from years back. https://fanlore.org/wiki/Russet_Noon

One thing that Russell doesn't seem to understand. He's pitching his novel as non-fiction with fiction elements. Such things don't exist. And no, he can't write Taylor Swift into a novel without consent. He can't use her song lyrics either. And he absolutely can't depict her as having sex with him. All of this is grounds for a lawsuit. But I doubt the lawyers will go that far. A cease and desist form will probably be enough.

If Russell receives a C&D letter he'll pee his little panties. I suspect, though, that B&N and Amazon will refuse to publish because, unlike Russhole, they have standards of decency.

It's a shame, too, as it would be great to hear from @SlurpDisRusshole that a paper copy made it to the breakroom at their place of employment.

 

[Fag Smut]

I was going to say that it's unlikely anyone would sue Russ personally because there's nothing to be gained; he has no assets and his income is probably mostly protected. I don't know how much a mail clerk makes but it can't be more than $10 or so an hour. I'd have to look up what the garnishment protections are in Utah (probably shitty because it's a deep red state) but he's not far above federal minimum wage.

He's probably close to what would be considered "judgment proof" - for laymen, those are typically retards who aren't even worth suing because they have no money or assets.

BUT... Taylor Swift just sued a dude for $1. So clearly she's willing to sue over principle itself.

She could try to seize his shitty suit.

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Don't want to double post but @RebatsivePulsard: Amazon will let people self-publish virtually anything. It costs them nothing. Either it sells and they make money, or it doesn't and it's whatever. They will however pull it immediately if they receive a C&D from a real lawyer (not like the C&D Russ sent to a strip club demanding it fire a stripper who didn't want to date him).

A lot of self-important idiots who argue about poliTics on twitter allege to be published authors -- they're all Russholes who self-published some nonsense on Amazon.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't have anything more to add about Russhole at this point. The folks here at Kiwifarms generate more dirt on him than I ever can dig up. I will check on this thread every once in a while. Feel free to ask me questions. I will see if I can answer them as best as I can without powerleveling.

I also don't mean to be a downer, these posts have been an awesome contribution to this thread, but be very, very careful about posting about any of this shit. Russ is a very vengeful loser with very little to lose, and he's going to get very angry about this. He's also likely to get fired at some point and that's probably when it's safer to dish, although you don't want to be the reason his ex-employer gets sued by this slack-jawed drooling, slurping moron.

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

I was going to say that it's unlikely anyone would sue Russ personally because there's nothing to be gained; he has no assets and his income is probably mostly protected. I don't know how much a mail clerk makes but it can't be more than $10 or so an hour. I'd have to look up what the garnishment protections are in Utah (probably shitty because it's a deep red state) but he's not far above federal minimum wage.

He's probably close to what would be considered "judgment proof" - for laymen, those are typically exceptional individuals who aren't even worth suing because they have no money or assets.

BUT... Taylor Swift just sued a dude for $1. So clearly she's willing to sue over principle itself.

She could try to seize his shitty suit.

It would be worth it to get a judgment just to prevent him from buying real estate, provided he eventually gets his shit together. It would be a little stink that's a matter of public record following him around.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

An owl with the voice of Morgan Freeman?! This is fucking golden and has already exceeded my wildest expectations. This is gonna be some serious Sonichu level of bizarre wish-fulfillment fantasy.

Sounds like a certain someone has watched way too much Bruce Almighty.

But that scene makes me think of the beginning of a fantasy Harlequin romance and it's unnerving.

 

[Fag Smut]

I love how if a black guy voices the owl, it's a black owl. Russ is Simple Jack.

 

[AnOminous]

You can't say Russell GREEEEEEEEEER without saying REEEEEEEEE.

I love how if a black guy voices the owl, it's a black owl. Russ is Simple Jack.

Never go full Greertard.

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

@RebatsivePulsard: Amazon will let people self-publish virtually anything. It costs them nothing. Either it sells and they make money, or it doesn't and it's whatever. They will however pull it immediately if they receive a C&D from a real lawyer (not like the C&D Russ sent to a strip club demanding it fire a stripper who didn't want to date him).

A lot of self-important idiots who argue about poliTics on twitter allege to be published authors -- they're all Russholes who self-published some nonsense on Amazon.

Then I guess @Barbarella had better swoop in and buy the only copy that makes it into the wild before it's pulled!

 

[AnOminous]

@RebatsivePulsard is maybe the best thread-based nick ever.

 

[Smutley]

One thing that Russell doesn't seem to understand. He's pitching his novel as non-fiction with fiction elements. Such things don't exist. And no, he can't write Taylor Swift into a novel without consent. He can't use her song lyrics either. And he absolutely can't depict her as having sex with him. All of this is grounds for a lawsuit. But I doubt the lawyers will go that far. A cease and desist form will probably be enough.

These points aren't totally true. If it's a work of fiction they don't have the same stringent requirements as nonfiction. You can have celebrities in your books, and use song lyrics if you want. Stephen king would be sued into oblivion if you couldn't since he prefaced most books and sometimes chapters with song lyrics he writes. Brett Easton Ellis has Tom Cruise living in Patrick Batemans building and the two share an elevator ride together, and in lunar park they have a whole conversation about Christian Bale playing Patrick Bateman. You don't need consent for these things, as unlike visual mediums books don't hold the same requirements.

They can't be the main focus of your story, and you can't have them say or do things that would impact their reputation negatively. But if Russ wrote a fictional story of a dude who loved Taylor Swift and his goal was to meet her? Sure. what he's doing now? If he ever sold more than 5 copies then he'd probably be looking at trouble. Chances are he's being so brazen about this because he's hoping he DOES get sued and will get to meet her in court and woo her.

But to say he can't make reference to or use lyrics is patently false.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

Bateman to Tom Cruise in the elevator: "I thought you were very fine in 'Cocktail'".

Also, there are typically two responses from a celebrity stalker who gets a C & D or a restraining order. Either they go quiet, or it just encourages them to think Sempai Finally Noticed. In the second case, usually things get ramped up to a much higher level.

 

[AnOminous]

These points aren't totally true. If it's a work of fiction they don't have the same stringent requirements as nonfiction. You can have celebrities in your books, and use song lyrics if you want. Stephen king would be sued into oblivion if you couldn't since he prefaced most books and sometimes chapters with song lyrics he writes. Brett Easton Ellis has Tom Cruise living in Patrick Batemans building and the two share an elevator ride together, and in lunar park they have a whole conversation about Christian Bale playing Patrick Bateman. You don't need consent for these things, as unlike visual mediums books don't hold the same requirements.

They can't be the main focus of your story, and you can't have them say or do things that would impact their reputation negatively. But if Russ wrote a fictional story of a dude who loved Taylor Swift and his goal was to meet her? Sure. what he's doing now? If he ever sold more than 5 copies then he'd probably be looking at trouble. Chances are he's being so brazen about this because he's hoping he DOES get sued and will get to meet her in court and woo her.

But to say he can't make reference to or use lyrics is patently false.

One example I can think of is the original PBS Lathe of Heaven was more or less driven into nonexistence for having used a Beatles song. The original novel also used the same lyrics.

There are fuzzy lines on these things, and in the case of a novel like this, it might be clear if Russhole used the entirety of lyrics of songs in his bullshit fake story.

But there are also public image rights and if Russhole's sole selling point to this bullshit tale is the use of Taylor Swift's image, he doesn't have the right to do that.

Then there's the issue of whether this is some bizarre fiction or "parody," although Russhole is presenting it as actual fact. If it's fiction or parody, it isn't defamatory, but if he's also simultaneously claiming his bizarre claims about Taylor Swift are true, and not just made-up bullshit, it actually is parody.

It's also just harassment.

This idiot is not parodying anything. He's not telling any truths.

He's just harassing and stalking a celebrity because she wouldn't let him stick his micropenis into her.

 

[SwiftlyRuiningRussell]

Taylor Swift's lawyers might not do anything, but I bet Calvin Harris' will.

 

[rankmelon]