Plagued Nice Guys

[Taily Puff]

The difference between Nice Guys and incels is like the difference between a flu and aids. You can put them in the same vague category, but it's a different conversation for each of them.
Nice Guys are just oblivious to how they're really more shallow and selfish than your average dudebro, and don't realize how being as transparent as they are puts people off.
Incels think that at twelve every girl needs to be given to a NEET weirdo as his eternal sex slave because women can't be trusted to fuck the "correct" men, which happens to be them.

Very different tones.

We have 3000+ pages of people calling Dobson a failure and his art shit. I don't see the problem here.

Yeah but Dobson keeps producing worse and worse art and showing there's no bottom to how far down he can fail.
Still this thread is usually good for a laugh.

Man I've been having to deal with Nice Guys at work a lot lately.

The girl I'm seeing now and I met at work, and there's really not a deep bench there in terms of ladies, and she's easily the best looking one so she gets a lot of attention, especially from these scrawny little weenie "artsy" types because she's got sort of an "alternative" look going on. They do things like buy her cute little cactus things, bring her tea unsolicited, try to chat about all their "unique" artsy tastes. Thing is they really don't care for me because as a crass, boorish American (I know I've mentioned I live in Prague) who watches sports and exercises (and can see right through the sort of people they are because they're complete stereotypes), I'm "not good enough for her" and she "can do so much better!" So you know, the typical sneaky Nice Guy shit where they run their mouths to the girl about how "You never say anything good about him," where she has to respond that "I don't tell you anything about him because it's not your business."

So the latest thing is with some little French dork who's complaining that her being with me is the "basic, boring, predictable" thing to do and it's "disappointing." They were talking about cider, because she likes it, and he starts talking about how she should try this other exotic cider, because "Why would you settle for something basic when there's something so much better right next to it? Seems like a waste to me," which is a way of talking about cider that no one in the history of talking about cider has ever talked about cider, so it's obvious what he actually means.

It's really annoying because off the top of my head, there's at least five of these guys all trying to pull the same shit. None of them know me at all because we don't really talk and they're obviously not the sort of people I'd care to hang out with, but they all feel qualified to judge me and try to horn in on my girl because I know how to read AND lift a weight every now and then.

tl;dr, I'm banging the office hot chick and nerds are peanut butter and jealous

What always gets me about situations like this is the fact that the guys don't see they're destroying any possible chance of her thinking of them in a romantic way. Honestly that's not exclusively a nice guy problem, girls do it too (floozies? Home wreckers?). If you actively pursue someone while they're in a relationship, their mind is going subconsciously list reasons not to be with you, starting with "I'm already taken" and going down from there.
They think they're setting themselves up for an easy rebound, but really they're just locking themselves in as undateable.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Man I've been having to deal with Nice Guys at work a lot lately.

The girl I'm seeing now and I met at work, and there's really not a deep bench there in terms of ladies, and she's easily the best looking one so she gets a lot of attention, especially from these scrawny little weenie "artsy" types because she's got sort of an "alternative" look going on. They do things like buy her cute little cactus things, bring her tea unsolicited, try to chat about all their "unique" artsy tastes. Thing is they really don't care for me because as a crass, boorish American (I know I've mentioned I live in Prague) who watches sports and exercises (and can see right through the sort of people they are because they're complete stereotypes), I'm "not good enough for her" and she "can do so much better!" So you know, the typical sneaky Nice Guy shit where they run their mouths to the girl about how "You never say anything good about him," where she has to respond that "I don't tell you anything about him because it's not your business."

So the latest thing is with some little French dork who's complaining that her being with me is the "basic, boring, predictable" thing to do and it's "disappointing." They were talking about cider, because she likes it, and he starts talking about how she should try this other exotic cider, because "Why would you settle for something basic when there's something so much better right next to it? Seems like a waste to me," which is a way of talking about cider that no one in the history of talking about cider has ever talked about cider, so it's obvious what he actually means.

It's really annoying because off the top of my head, there's at least five of these guys all trying to pull the same shit. None of them know me at all because we don't really talk and they're obviously not the sort of people I'd care to hang out with, but they all feel qualified to judge me and try to horn in on my girl because I know how to read AND lift a weight every now and then.

tl;dr, I'm banging the office hot chick and nerds are peanut butter and jealous

We need screen caps of their twitter bios like now!

 

[Autistic Illuminati]

I think this thread should just be merged with the incel thread. Aren't nice guys just incels who haven't decided that women who won't fuck them (re: all) are subhuman, evil fembots yet?

Nice Guys have two phases :
1 - "Muh Lady i respect you"
2 - "You SLUT ! DIE DIE DIE *cry in secret* "
And Incel are basically Nice Guys but locked on second phase

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

So the most recent development today is this little French faggot telling my old lady that we "owe him a box of chocolates" because it was "jealousy" of him that "spurred [me] to get together with her. aka: you're welcome."

He's leaving the job in two days and I feel like I should do something for him but I dunno what. Some exotic cider to wish him well, maybe.

 

[AnOminous]

So the most recent development today is this little French faggot telling my old lady that we "owe him a box of chocolates" because it was "jealousy" of him that "spurred [me] to get together with her. aka: you're welcome."

He's leaving the job in two days and I feel like I should do something for him but I dunno what. Some exotic cider to wish him well, maybe.

A box of tissues to cry with. And to clean up other kinds of messes.

 

[dcfcfan1]

Man I've been having to deal with Nice Guys at work a lot lately.

The girl I'm seeing now and I met at work, and there's really not a deep bench there in terms of ladies, and she's easily the best looking one so she gets a lot of attention, especially from these scrawny little weenie "artsy" types because she's got sort of an "alternative" look going on. They do things like buy her cute little cactus things, bring her tea unsolicited, try to chat about all their "unique" artsy tastes. Thing is they really don't care for me because as a crass, boorish American (I know I've mentioned I live in Prague) who watches sports and exercises (and can see right through the sort of people they are because they're complete stereotypes), I'm "not good enough for her" and she "can do so much better!" So you know, the typical sneaky Nice Guy shit where they run their mouths to the girl about how "You never say anything good about him," where she has to respond that "I don't tell you anything about him because it's not your business."

So the latest thing is with some little French dork who's complaining that her being with me is the "basic, boring, predictable" thing to do and it's "disappointing." They were talking about cider, because she likes it, and he starts talking about how she should try this other exotic cider, because "Why would you settle for something basic when there's something so much better right next to it? Seems like a waste to me," which is a way of talking about cider that no one in the history of talking about cider has ever talked about cider, so it's obvious what he actually means.

It's really annoying because off the top of my head, there's at least five of these guys all trying to pull the same shit. None of them know me at all because we don't really talk and they're obviously not the sort of people I'd care to hang out with, but they all feel qualified to judge me and try to horn in on my girl because I know how to read AND lift a weight every now and then.

tl;dr, I'm banging the office hot chick and nerds are peanut butter and jealous

Your better looking than those fuckers, who complain about everything and have no respect. Enough said

 

[pozilei]

The difference between Nice Guys and incels is like the difference between a flu and aids.

That's a weirdly apt analogy. Also in terms of how long their mindset lasts. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic here but I can see your average "I'm a nice guy why won't you date me?" dude grow out of it eventually. Many of them seem to be fairly young (late teens - early twenties) and still have trouble grasping that not everything and every person revolves around them. Once they learn that there are different kinds of people and that everyone comes with a history etc. they might be able to become decent people and feel kinda embarrassed about hounding some poor girl for trying to let them down gently.

Incels on the other hand are kind of a lost cause....

 

[dcfcfan1]

What always gets me about situations like this is the fact that the guys don't see they're destroying any possible chance of her thinking of them in a romantic way. Honestly that's not exclusively a nice guy problem, girls do it too (floozies? Home wreckers?). If you actively pursue someone while they're in a relationship, their mind is going subconsciously list reasons not to be with you, starting with "I'm already taken" and going down from there.
They think they're setting themselves up for an easy rebound, but really they're just locking themselves in as undateable.[/QUOTE]

I know a lot of undateable guys who dont act as retarded as those "nice guys". They just get on with it and show a bit of fucking respect.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I think this thread should just be merged with the incel thread. Aren't nice guys just incels who haven't decided that women who won't fuck them (re: all) are subhuman, evil fembots yet?

Nice Guys don't become Incels until their trainer takes them to Mt. Moon and uses a mgtow stone.

 

[dcfcfan1]

Nice Guys don't become Incels until their trainer takes them to Mt. Moon and uses a mgtow stone.

Nice guys in my opinion for the most part are just unaware, socially incapable, dont know how to express their feelings (obviously not that aggressive guy, he is a lost cause), but are generally unpopular, ugly and harmless

Incels are a lost cause- most of them have no jobs, no goals, no ambitions, depressed, no hobbies, and a worse sense of entitlement

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Nice guys in my opinion for the most part are just unaware, socially incapable, dont know how to express their feelings (obviously not that aggressive guy, he is a lost cause), but are generally unpopular, ugly and harmless

Incels are a lost cause- most of them have no jobs, no goals, no ambitions, depressed, no hobbies, and a worse sense of entitlement

They're both incredibly entitled and arrogant. Nice Guys just delude themselves into thinking they still "love" the girl and think she's wonderful and special. In hating and belittling women, incels are almost more honest.

 

[dcfcfan1]

They're both incredibly entitled and arrogant. Nice Guys just delude themselves into thinking they still "love" the girl and think she's wonderful and special. In hating and belittling women, incels are almost more honest.

There are a lot of Incels who dont hate women at all. Its just the vocal minority that post shite on the internet that makes the group as a whole seem worse. A lot of so called loveshy Incels have nothing against women and blame themselves for not being good enough to date. But you never hear about them. Its more fun to take the piss out of that wierd governmentsgetgirlfriends guy haha

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

There are a lot of Incels who dont hate women at all. Its just the vocal minority that post shite on the internet that makes the group as a whole seem worse. A lot of so called loveshy Incels have nothing against women and blame themselves for not being good enough to date. But you never hear about them. Its more fun to take the piss out of that wierd governmentsgetgirlfriends guy haha

Dude, there comes a point where you admit the word is lost and if you want a word to define your identity, you gotta just pick a new one. This #notallincels schtick is a bad hill to die on.

 

[dcfcfan1]

Dude, there comes a point where you admit the word is lost and if you want a word to define your identity, you gotta just pick a new one. This #notallincels schtick is a bad hill to die on.

Are you talking about me or them? I personally dont like generalisations tbh but understand why they exist

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I personally dont like generalisations tbh but understand why they exist

I don't think you do. "Incel" isn't a skin color and it isn't a trivial hobby either. It's a deliberately adopted identity. And it's adopted by guys who think the whole world has made their chances of getting sex to be unfair. In at least 99.9% of cases it's guys who have never had a relationship or know what sex means - because they all spend their whole lives believing porn is real and looking at every girl they meet as a flagpole at the end of a Mario level, and they're bitter and resentful that no one will tell them the gameshark code that all the Chads are obviously using.

"Incel" is a shitty identity. It's nothing more than broadcasting "I'm a victim". People who want to be known first and foremost as victims have already chosen to offer nothing and instead just expect things. I can have empathy for an incel too, but it only begins when they renounce the title.

 

[ZeCommissar]

I think this thread should just be merged with the incel thread. Aren't nice guys just incels who haven't decided that women who won't fuck them (re: all) are subhuman, evil fembots yet?

I believe Nice Guys can snap out of it and eventually learn the error of their ways.

I believe unironic incels are a lost cause.

 

[dcfcfan1]

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I don't think you do. "Incel" isn't a skin color and it isn't a trivial hobby either. It's a deliberately adopted identity. And it's adopted by guys who think the whole world has made their chances of getting sex to be unfair. In at least 99.9% of cases it's guys who have never had a relationship or know what sex means - because they all spend their whole lives believing porn is real and looking at every girl they meet as a flagpole at the end of a Mario level, and they're bitter and resentful that no one will tell them the gameshark code that all the Chads are obviously using.

"Incel" is a shitty identity. It's nothing more than broadcasting "I'm a victim". People who want to be known first and foremost as victims have already chosen to offer nothing and instead just expect things. I can have empathy for an incel too, but it only begins when they renounce the title.

What about guys who cant get women but dont bitch and complain about it? (And dont call themselves INCEL) ?

A lot of loveshy people blame no one BUT THEMSELVES for being undateable. A lot of Loveshy people are not bitter or resentful at all. They wouldnt actively shout out to the world about being "incel" but if you were to ask them about it, they would admitt that they are not celibate by choice.

 

[Country Matters]

What about guys who cant get women but dont bitch and complain about it? (And dont call themselves INCEL) ?

There's a word for that: well-adjusted individuals.

A lot of loveshy people blame no one BUT THEMSELVES for being undateable. A lot of Loveshy people are not bitter or resentful at all. They wouldnt actively shout out to the world about being "incel" but if you were to ask them about it, they would admitt that they are not celibate by choice.

Tell us about how women won't touch you, and how that's obviously their problem

 

[escapegoat]

Seriously, the Nice Guy thread is like... standard derp, with dashes of stalking. The Incel thread is fap-to-fucking-your-mom-and-sister-then-sewing-up-their-vaginas derp.

 

[JaneThough]

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What about guys who cant get women but dont bitch and complain about it? (And dont call themselves INCEL) ?

A lot of loveshy people blame no one BUT THEMSELVES for being undateable. A lot of Loveshy people are not bitter or resentful at all. They wouldnt actively shout out to the world about being "incel" but if you were to ask them about it, they would admitt that they are not celibate by choice.

They are not who these threads are about, if those people exist.