Plagued Nice Guys

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Not to beat the dead dcfcfan1 horse now he's gone, but I think it's relevant to bring up that he's an example of a subtype of nice guy/incel I've noticed: the "I'm with you guys, those incels are awful but good thing I recognize it so I can be on the winning side right?" type.

Actually, it's just another variant of race-traitor I guess. Same thing as the white male cucksurgents who make grandiose posts about how they apologize for all the bad stuff their evil gender has done. Quislings is a term for them I think, I'm sure there's other words.
 
Not to beat the dead dcfcfan1 horse now he's gone, but I think it's relevant to bring up that he's an example of a subtype of nice guy/incel I've noticed: the "I'm with you guys, those incels are awful but good thing I recognize it so I can be on the winning side right?" type.
Easy points for someone with nothing to offer. Actually, going on that..

Isn't the whole nice-guy thing just caused by playing it safe? Lack of female exposure making them mask any genuine interests or hobbies they have, ending up as a boring blob with no interests but the girl herself when they finally meet one? 'Betraying' their own is a safe move because they're essentially just going "Hi, mhm. Yeah you're right, not sure about what though, but I want your approval. I see you laughing at those virgins over there, I would too!".

Not to go full /r9k/ but I'd imagine girls "able" to get male attention by being themselves must've brushed strokes with genuine personalities before. They'd seek meaningful stimulation as opposed to someone offering little but reassurance without a second thought. Normies aren't better people, they're just confident being themselves which is usually what gives them that BRO appeal in school, which attracts friends and flirts the same.

You throw some boring loser at that; of course he'll get jealous and start molding this 'Chad' stereotype, and match it onto anyone with a unique personality 'cause they manage to get along with girls.

I mean hell, go through any amount of r/incel or /r9k/ posts. Other than depression, video games and desire to love, there's little to be offered. I guess it appeals to females of same situation which results in these fairytale-like stories they all hope for.

Bad guys get girls because they can turn them down.
 
How many other threads have caused this many people to get banned by powerleveling? It's glorious.
A lot of other threads are about esoteric groups that you have to jump some specific hoops to identify with. Being an incel is just an idea, and therefore it's easier to find guys who get offended when you mock it.
 
A lot of other threads are about esoteric groups that you have to jump some specific hoops to identify with. Being an incel is just an idea, and therefore it's easier to find guys who get offended when you mock it.
If incels were really upset about not getting laid, they'd put forth the effort to attract someone. Since they don't, they are either ok with being alone on some level, or too fucking lazy to make improvements. Either way, they've willingly taken themselves out of the dating pool, whether or not they realize it.
 
If incels were really upset about not getting laid, they'd put forth the effort to attract someone. Since they don't, they are either ok with being alone on some level, or too fucking lazy to make improvements. Either way, they've willingly taken themselves out of the dating pool, whether or not they realize it.
Victimhood is one helluva drug.
 
If incels were really upset about not getting laid, they'd put forth the effort to attract someone. Since they don't, they are either ok with being alone on some level, or too fucking lazy to make improvements. Either way, they've willingly taken themselves out of the dating pool, whether or not they realize it.

It's a type of fear of success really. When you construct this scenario where your victory is completely impossible, it frees you from any responsibilities or burdens (at least any burdens you didn't saddle yourself with).
They insist that they can't get a date, that they can't get sex, that everything is stacked in a way that makes it impossible. The result is that they never have to worry about being better, they don't have to ever compete. They can simply shut down and watch their own life from the sidelines instead of actually expending effort or making decisions.
I'm sure that being dedicated virgins, they're also afraid of their first times. Losing your virginity can be an intimidating experience. Even sleeping with a new partner for the first time can be nerve wracking. So by embracing their failure, they never have to get over that initial nervousness, they never have to risk rejection or feel potential humiliation. They can just say all women are evil and wash their hands of it.
 
It's a type of fear of success really. When you construct this scenario where your victory is completely impossible, it frees you from any responsibilities or burdens (at least any burdens you didn't saddle yourself with).
They insist that they can't get a date, that they can't get sex, that everything is stacked in a way that makes it impossible. The result is that they never have to worry about being better, they don't have to ever compete. They can simply shut down and watch their own life from the sidelines instead of actually expending effort or making decisions.
I'm sure that being dedicated virgins, they're also afraid of their first times. Losing your virginity can be an intimidating experience. Even sleeping with a new partner for the first time can be nerve wracking. So by embracing their failure, they never have to get over that initial nervousness, they never have to risk rejection or feel potential humiliation. They can just say all women are evil and wash their hands of it.
All it comes down to is you can live in the dark or risk dying in the light.
 
Nice guys in my opinion for the most part are just unaware, socially incapable, dont know how to express their feelings (obviously not that aggressive guy, he is a lost cause), but are generally unpopular,ugly and harmless

Incels are a lost cause- most of them have no jobs, no goals, no ambitions, depressed, no hobbies, and a worse sense of entitlement

Some "nice guys" think that looks are the be all and end all to land themselves in a relationship. Can I humbly suggest to them that looks aren't everything?

This brings to mind how Jonathan Ross / @effinrawz, autistic, awkward and fat he may be managed to have a girlfriend who engaged in a little hanky-panky with him in a changing room which resulted in Ross "shooting out 2 sperms".

I am also reminded of Coppercab having a girlfriend too never mind that he is a balding, fat, angry and soulless ginger. Not exactly the most visually appealling person I can think of.

It must feel horrible to lose out to Ross and Coppercab, but at least their (now former) girlfriends didn't go after them for their looks!
 
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Some "nice guys" think that looks are the be all and end all to land themselves in a relationship. Can I humbly suggest to them that looks aren't everything?

This brings to mind how Jonathan Ross / @effinrawz, autistic, awkward and fat he may be managed to have a girlfriend who engaged in a little hanky-panky with him in a changing room which resulted in Ross "shooting out 2 sperms".

I am also reminded of Coppercab having a girlfriend too never mind that he is a balding, fat, angry and soulless ginger. Not exactly the most visually appealling person I can think of.

It must feel horrible to lose out to Ross and Coppercab, but at least their (now former) girlfriends didn't go after them for their looks!

A lot of the advice I see given to nice guys is "hit the gym," which may explain why a lot of regular gym goers are so insecure. If it comes down to anything, it has to be compatibility. Bronies have girlfriends, but those girlfriends are female bronies. Meanwhile, nice guys are chasing high school fantasies with whom they lack any chemistry or compatibility.
 
Bronies have girlfriends, but those girlfriends are female bronies. Meanwhile, nice guys are chasing high school fantasies with whom they lack any chemistry or compatibility.

This.

A lot of them will actually pine for a the highest caliber nerd-girl in their nerd-circle. None of them ever reflect upon the fact that any girl who looks like that, but is hanging around the Magic the Gathering tournies in the first place is not actually a fucking unicorn, but is very likely actually autistic (women are cold and unfeeling), has low self-esteem (women have no self-respect), or is traumatized or mentally ill (all women are crazy.)

Then they take this experience of chasing after the nerd-girl and universalize it, generally while whining about it to some other girl who is fat or goobery, who doesn't even actually qualify as an actual girl in that circle. She's more like eunuch who brags about how much she hates cold, unfeeling, crazy women who have no self-respect, too, because in her unattractive nerd girl mind, if she agrees enough with him, he'll see that she is actually female, but not like the other girls.

Not that I spent a lot of time observing the natural habitats of these people or anything
 
It's a type of fear of success really. When you construct this scenario where your victory is completely impossible, it frees you from any responsibilities or burdens (at least any burdens you didn't saddle yourself with).
They insist that they can't get a date, that they can't get sex, that everything is stacked in a way that makes it impossible. The result is that they never have to worry about being better, they don't have to ever compete. They can simply shut down and watch their own life from the sidelines instead of actually expending effort or making decisions.
I'm sure that being dedicated virgins, they're also afraid of their first times. Losing your virginity can be an intimidating experience. Even sleeping with a new partner for the first time can be nerve wracking. So by embracing their failure, they never have to get over that initial nervousness, they never have to risk rejection or feel potential humiliation. They can just say all women are evil and wash their hands of it.

Part of it may well be that once they take the fleshy, sweaty plunge, there is no (or a fear of no) safety net. They can't go 'well, it's my first time' afterward, and 'I'm autistic!' won't help for the same reason: they know how to get laid now and it opens up a door to higher expectations. They can't close it, so they're at the mercy of a frontier they are quite uncomfortable with.
 
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Really hoping this guy is just a troll, but he has been making waves on reddit, posting on relationship advice , post got removed, tried to post on /incels got removed there aswell. He even posted on legaladvice cause he wanted to know if it was okay to get his roommate drunk and have sex with her that way.
 
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>"I do so much for her"
>List contains nothing but common courtesies

Really hoping this guy is just a troll, but he has been making waves on reddit, posting on relationship advice , post got removed, tried to post on /incels got removed there aswell. He even posted on legaladvice cause he wanted to know if it was okay to get his roommate drunk and have sex with her that way.
If he is legit, I hope that the roommate has already begun the process of finding a new place.
 
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Really hoping this guy is just a troll, but he has been making waves on reddit, posting on relationship advice , post got removed, tried to post on /incels got removed there aswell. He even posted on legaladvice cause he wanted to know if it was okay to get his roommate drunk and have sex with her that way.
I don't think I've ever seen a loveshy so clearly spell out that he thinks he's owed sex in exchange for trivial gestures.
 
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