Cultcow Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

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If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,449 55.9%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 283 10.9%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 607 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,594
I'm so glad that we get under his skin. There's not much we can do to stop his bullshit, harassing and rude behaviour, but at least if it ever comes to the crunch and he goes on a mad gun rampage, all the evidence is right here on Kiwi Orchards of his history of unstable, volatile and unhinged conduct and his lack of empathy or remorse. In the meantime I'll gladly be the only thorn in the side of this jumped up little dickweed :heart-full:
I find it interesting that he rages against Kiwi Farms for what we say here and not anyone he knows irl or any other website; it's not like we're the first group of people to call him abhorrent.

Is he so sheltered that people only speak openly about him behind his back? Has he never had a real irl friend who has stopped and said, "Whoa, Russ, that's crossing a line"? Are Viramontes and Soren, his friendly facebook enablers, the closest he's had to friends? :horrifying: to consider. I'd be mad as hell too if no one cared enough about me to correct me.
 
If Rusty had long hair, he'd look like this:
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Russell Greer is the epitome of a waste of air and space. He brings nothing of value to this planet, and is actually a detriment to the world.
He's a parasite in the truest sense of the word. He benefits himself at the expense of those around him. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a hell of a drug.
 
I feel like somebody needs to intervene on Russell. He’s like an addict in the sense that he doesn’t just ruin his life but also everyone around him. No the police are not the people. I am surprised nobody has reached out to his sister yet, if I’m not mistaken.

Seriously, it would be a very appropriate thing to do to call or get in contact with her, and/or his parents (not to mention the milk that would be way more :informative: than any standard Facebook update Russ provides us

I mean afterall it could be possible she loves her brother and cares a lot about him but is hardly aware the damage he’s causing himself and others.

Tldr I’d be curious to know if people have notified his family about his online behavior and why or why not this is a good or bad idea
 
I feel like somebody needs to intervene on Russell. He’s like an addict in the sense that he doesn’t just ruin his life but also everyone around him. No the police are not the people. I am surprised nobody has reached out to his sister yet, if I’m not mistaken.

Seriously, it would be a very appropriate thing to do to call or get in contact with her, and/or his parents (not to mention the tard cum that would be way more :informative: than any standard Facebook update Russ provides us

I mean afterall it could be possible she loves her brother and cares a lot about him but is hardly aware the damage he’s causing himself and others.

Tldr I’d be curious to know if people have notified his family about his online behavior and why or why not this is a good or bad idea
His family has to know at least somewhat. He's excommunicated from his Evanston community (where his parents still are), he wasn't seen in the more recent family pics on either his mom or dad's facebook page (I can't remember which), and he publicly shares his experiences online with hookers and brothels which would very likely cause some friction in his Mormon hometown. Mormonism is a tight-knit community as well-- if his parents aren't aware, the others who are aware in the community would almost certainly bring it up.

Also, every time anyone has tried to help him on facebook (that we have documented at least), he shrieks and doubles down on his behavior. Russ is a "with me or against me" kind of guy. No amount of trying to knock some sense into him is going to work. He needs to figure that out on his own (which he never will) in order to get "better".

NPD is notoriously hard to treat because the issue (namely, grandiose self-image) has to be (a) recognized by the individual and (b) acknowledged as a bad thing in order to even start any successful therapy or interventions. The solution to the disorder is inherent to its dysfunction.

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JESUS, there are 65 documents filed on the case. Let me grab some and see about getting them up here!
EDIT-Here is the list:
10/18/2016 1 COMPLAINT against James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga (Filing fee $ 400, receipt number 4681074304) (Fee Status: Paid) filed by Russell G. Greer. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet 1) Assigned to Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead (mms) (Entered: 10/18/2016)
12/01/2016 2 MOTION to allow proof of service to be filed with the court without original summons pursuant to FRCP 4 filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (kpf) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 3 NOTICE of Appearance by David N. Wolf on behalf of Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes (Wolf, David) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 4 NOTICE of Appearance by Gregory M. Soderberg on behalf of Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 5 NOTICE of Appearance by Neil R. Sarin on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 6 MOTION for Extension of Time to File Answer re 1 Complaint, filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order Order Granting Extension of Time to Respond to Plaintiffs' Complaint)(Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 7 NOTICE of Appearance by Jennifer Bailey on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (Bailey, Jennifer) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 8 Defendant's MOTION for Extension of Time to respond to Plaintiff's Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Wolf, David) Modified on 12/2/2016 by changing motion type to Motion for Extension of time to File Answer (las). (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/02/2016 9 ORDER granting 6 Motion for Extension of Time to Answer re 1 Complaint,. Answer deadline updated for Sim S. Gill answer due 12/7/2016; Ben McAdams answer due 12/7/2016; Rolen Yoshinaga answer due 12/7/2016. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 12/1/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/02/2016)
12/02/2016 10 ORDER granting 8 Motion for Extension of Time to Answer re 1 Complaint,. Answer deadline updated for Kathy Berg answer due 12/27/2016; Gary R. Herbert answer due 12/27/2016; Sean D. Reyes answer due 12/27/2016. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 12/2/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/02/2016)
12/12/2016 11 MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. Attorney Catherine L. Brabson added to party James Allred(pty:dft), Attorney Catherine L. Brabson added to party Jackie Biskupski(pty:dft)(Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 12 NOTICE - This case is assigned to a magistrate judge. To consent or request reassignment, use the form on this link or use the included form for non-efilers and send it to
consents@utd.uscourts.gov
within 15 days or mail to the court with Attention: Consent Clerk on the envelope. Notice e-mailed or mailed to Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. Form due by 12/27/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 13 NOTICE OF ADR, e-mailed or mailed to Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 14 NOTICE FROM THE COURT re: Initial Scheduling
The court's IPT Clerk will now set the case for the Initial Pretrial Scheduling Conference (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/14/2016 15 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (las) (Entered: 12/14/2016)
12/19/2016 16 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (las) (Entered: 12/19/2016)
12/23/2016 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 12/23/2016)
12/27/2016 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/27/2016)
12/28/2016 19 NOTICE REMINDER - All parties are requested to respond within the time frame set forth in the 12 Notice of Presiding Magistrate Assignment,, pursuant to General Order 07-001. If you have already consented/objected, please disregard this notice. No judge will be informed of a party's response unless all parties have consented to the assignment of the matter to a U.S. Magistrate Judge. Unless consents from all parties are received within fifteen(15) days, the case will be randomly re-assigned to a U.S. District Judge without further notice.
Link to Magistrate Consent Objection form (blh) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 20 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (blh) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 21 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 22 NOTICE OF INITIAL PRETRIAL CONFERENCE: (Notice generated by IPT Clerk)
The Attorneys Planning Meeting Report and Proposed Scheduling Order forms, available on the court web site at http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/formpage.html, should be prepared 21 days before the Initial Pretrial Conference hearing date.

NOTICE TO COUNSEL, The Court may enter a scheduling order and vacate the hearing if counsel
(a) file a stipulated Attorneys Planning Meeting Report; and
(b) e-mail a Proposed Scheduling Order to ipt@utd.uscourts.gov
21 days before the scheduled hearing. See instructions at http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/ipt.html

If counsel or the parties would like to participate by phone they must contact the IPT Clerk at least two days in advance at ipt@utd.uscourts.gov to make arrangements.

Initial Pretrial Conference set for 2/8/2017 at 11:00 AM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Evelyn J. Furse. (jds) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/30/2016 23 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 12/30/2016)
12/30/2016 24 JOINT STATEMENT OF PARTIES/ CONSENT to Jurisdiction by US Magistrate Judge under 28 U.S.C. 636(c) by Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (Attachments: # 1 Consent, # 2 Consent, # 3 Consent)(las) (Additional attachment(s) added on 1/5/2017: # 4 Signed Herbert, Reyes and Berg Consent) (las). (Entered: 12/30/2016)
01/09/2017 25 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (rks) (Entered: 01/11/2017)
01/13/2017 26 REPORT OF ATTORNEY PLANNING MEETING. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order [Proposed] Scheduling Order)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 01/13/2017)
01/20/2017 27 SCHEDULING ORDER: Initial Pretrial Hearing vacated. Amended Pleadings due by 8/31/2017. Joinder of Parties due by 9/29/2017. Fact Discovery due by 9/30/2017. Expert Discovery due by 1/15/2018. Motions due by 2/15/2018. Status Conference set for 2/22/2018 at 02:00 PM in Rm 7.100 before Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 1/9/2017. (las) (Entered: 01/20/2017)
01/23/2017 28 REPLY to Response to Motion re 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support of State Defendants' Motion to Dismiss filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 01/23/2017)
01/27/2017 29 RESPONSE to Motion re 21 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support , 11 MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support , 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support , 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 01/30/2017)
02/17/2017 30 REPLY to Response to Motion re 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 02/17/2017)
02/24/2017 31 DOCUMENT LODGED from plaintiff consisting of pleading incorrectly styled as a combined surreply and 'amended complaint' (no leave appears to have been granted to file either per FRCivP 15 or DUCivR 7-1(b)(2)(A)) (alt) (Entered: 02/28/2017)
03/06/2017 32 REQUEST to Submit for Decision re 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 03/06/2017)
04/19/2017 33 DOCKET TEXT ORDER finding as moot Plaintiff's Motion To Allow Proof Of Service 2 . All Defendants have filed a responsive pleading [11, 17, 18, 21], and there has been no challenge to the sufficiency of service. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 04/19/2017. (Entered: 04/19/2017)
04/21/2017 34 RULING AND ORDER - The court requests additional briefing on several issues. Consistent therewith, the Court Orders the following briefing schedule: Briefing On Plaintiffs Standing And The Ripeness Of The Claims *Plaintiffs Initial Brief Due: May 5, 2017. *Defendants Responsive Briefs Due: May 19, 2017.
Briefing On Facial vs. As-Applied Challenges *Defendants Initial Briefs Due: May 5, 2017. *Plaintiffs Responsive Brief Due: May 19, 2017. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 4/21/2017. (las) (Entered: 04/21/2017)
05/05/2017 35 Supplemental BRIEF In Support of Plaintiff's Standing and the Ripeness of the Claims filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 36 Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Facial and As-Applied Challenges BRIEF re 34 Order,, filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 37 Supplemental BRIEF re 36 Brief, 34 Order,, Re Facial vs. As-Applied Constitutional Challenges and Joinder in State Defendants' Supplemental Brief filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 38 Supplemental BRIEF regarding Facial vs. As-Applied Constitutional Challenges and Joinder in State's Supplemental Memorandum filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/19/2017 39 RESPONSIVE SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF re 35 Brief, 34 Order,, filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1- Plaintiff's DBA registration)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 40 ERRATA to 39 Brief filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes . (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1- Plaintiff's DBA registration)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 41 Defendant's RESPONSE re 35 Brief, 34 Order,,,RE Standing and Ripeness filed by James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 42 Plaintiff's RESPONSE to Defendant's 36 Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Facial and As-Applied Challenges Brief per 34 Order, filed by Russell G. Greer. (jwt) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 43 RESPONSIVE SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF re 35 Brief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/23/2017 44 MOTION to Amend Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 05/23/2017)
06/02/2017 45 RESPONSE to Motion re 44 MOTION to Amend/Correct Plaintiff's Motion for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 06/02/2017)
06/28/2017 46 RULING & ORDER -1. Within ten (10) days from the date of this Order, Plaintiff shall file a copy of his proposed amended complaint on the court docket as an Exhibit to his pending motion to amend; and2. Defendants shall have an additional ten (10) days after Plaintiff files a copy of his proposed pleading to respond and/or supplement their response (ECF No. 45) to Greers motion to amend. (ECF No. 44.) Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 6/28/2017. (las) (Entered: 06/28/2017)
07/10/2017 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 07/11/2017)
07/19/2017 48 Supplemental RESPONSE re 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint, filed by Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 07/19/2017)
08/11/2017 49 SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL Jacque M. Ramos replacing Neil R. Sarin as counsel on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Ramos, Jacque) (Entered: 08/11/2017)
08/15/2017 50 SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL David M. Quealy replacing Jacque M. Ramos as counsel on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 08/15/2017)
08/17/2017 51 DOCKET TEXT ORDER. Plaintiff's motion for leave to supplement complaint along with Exhibits at 47 moots Plaintiff's same motion filed at 44 . Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 08/17/2017. No attached document. (amn) (Entered: 08/17/2017)
08/29/2017 52 RESPONSE to Motion re 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 08/29/2017)
08/30/2017 53 ORDER granting in part and denying in part 47 Motion for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint; denying without prejudice as Moot 17 Motion to Dismiss ; denying without prejudice as Moot 18 Motion to Dismiss ; denying without prejudice as Moot 21 Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim. See Order for Details. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 8/30/2017. (las) (Entered: 08/30/2017)
08/31/2017 54 DOCKET TEXT ORDER. Pursuant to the court's order 53 , City Defendants' motion to dismiss 11 is denied without prejudice as moot. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 08/31/2017. No attached document. (amn) (Entered: 08/31/2017)
09/12/2017 55 AMENDED COMPLAINT against James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga. filed by Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 09/12/2017)
09/26/2017 56 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 09/26/2017)
10/03/2017 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 58 ENTRY ERROR- MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiff's suppl filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) Modified on 10/3/2017 added error text (las). (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 59 Modification of Docket: re 58 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiff's suppl. Document filed in error. Motion has been terminated. (las) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 60 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Supplemental Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/24/2017 61 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (jwt) (Entered: 10/25/2017)
11/07/2017 62 REPLY to Response to Motion re 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/07/2017 63 REPLY to Response to Motion re 60 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Supplemental Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/07/2017 64 REQUEST to Submit for Decision re 56 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/08/2017 65 RESPONSE and Memorandum in Opposition re 62 Reply Memorandum/Reply to Response to Motion. And Request for Hearing. filed by Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 11/09/2017)
 
I find it interesting that he rages against Kiwi Farms for what we say here and not anyone he knows irl or any other website; it's not like we're the first group of people to call him abhorrent.

Is he so sheltered that people only speak openly about him behind his back? Has he never had a real irl friend who has stopped and said, "Whoa, Russ, that's crossing a line"? Are Viramontes and Soren, his friendly facebook enablers, the closest he's had to friends? :horrifying: to consider. I'd be mad as hell too if no one cared enough about me to correct me.
It's not really that we're pointing out his flaws. I bet some people hate his guts and have told him (some) stuff, if only to hurt him back.

IMO, what he absolutely hates is that we are putting those flaws and failures in one place and within easy reach to anyone willing to google his name. This is why you see him constantly talking about trolls besmirching his name and whatnot.

Because for someone as narcissistic and self-centered as Russell, the most infuriating thought is not being able to force or trick the world to see him like he sees himself.
 
Yeah, Dave is pretty normal-looking by comparison. Kinda borderline horsey in the teeth, but he's not hideous or anything. (Plus, unlike Russ, he has friends, life goals, and actual musical talent. And his eyes don't radiate evil.) The long hair in the photo just made me imagine what he might look like after a six-month meth binge. I don't love or hate his music, but at least he radiates a vibe of, "Hey, we're having fun, come and join the party!" which is the polar opposite of how people feel when Russ shows up.

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Or made him sit at the kids' table. In the other room. Alone.
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JESUS, there are 65 documents filed on the case. Let me grab some and see about getting them up here!
EDIT-Here is the list:
10/18/2016 1 COMPLAINT against James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga (Filing fee $ 400, receipt number 4681074304) (Fee Status: Paid) filed by Russell G. Greer. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet 1) Assigned to Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead (mms) (Entered: 10/18/2016)
12/01/2016 2 MOTION to allow proof of service to be filed with the court without original summons pursuant to FRCP 4 filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (kpf) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 3 NOTICE of Appearance by David N. Wolf on behalf of Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes (Wolf, David) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 4 NOTICE of Appearance by Gregory M. Soderberg on behalf of Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 5 NOTICE of Appearance by Neil R. Sarin on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 6 MOTION for Extension of Time to File Answer re 1 Complaint, filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order Order Granting Extension of Time to Respond to Plaintiffs' Complaint)(Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 7 NOTICE of Appearance by Jennifer Bailey on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (Bailey, Jennifer) (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/01/2016 8 Defendant's MOTION for Extension of Time to respond to Plaintiff's Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Wolf, David) Modified on 12/2/2016 by changing motion type to Motion for Extension of time to File Answer (las). (Entered: 12/01/2016)
12/02/2016 9 ORDER granting 6 Motion for Extension of Time to Answer re 1 Complaint,. Answer deadline updated for Sim S. Gill answer due 12/7/2016; Ben McAdams answer due 12/7/2016; Rolen Yoshinaga answer due 12/7/2016. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 12/1/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/02/2016)
12/02/2016 10 ORDER granting 8 Motion for Extension of Time to Answer re 1 Complaint,. Answer deadline updated for Kathy Berg answer due 12/27/2016; Gary R. Herbert answer due 12/27/2016; Sean D. Reyes answer due 12/27/2016. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 12/2/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/02/2016)
12/12/2016 11 MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. Attorney Catherine L. Brabson added to party James Allred(pty:dft), Attorney Catherine L. Brabson added to party Jackie Biskupski(pty:dft)(Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 12 NOTICE - This case is assigned to a magistrate judge. To consent or request reassignment, use the form on this link or use the included form for non-efilers and send it to
consents@utd.uscourts.gov
within 15 days or mail to the court with Attention: Consent Clerk on the envelope. Notice e-mailed or mailed to Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. Form due by 12/27/2016. (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 13 NOTICE OF ADR, e-mailed or mailed to Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/12/2016 14 NOTICE FROM THE COURT re: Initial Scheduling
The court's IPT Clerk will now set the case for the Initial Pretrial Scheduling Conference (las) (Entered: 12/12/2016)
12/14/2016 15 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (las) (Entered: 12/14/2016)
12/19/2016 16 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (las) (Entered: 12/19/2016)
12/23/2016 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 12/23/2016)
12/27/2016 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 12/27/2016)
12/28/2016 19 NOTICE REMINDER - All parties are requested to respond within the time frame set forth in the 12 Notice of Presiding Magistrate Assignment,, pursuant to General Order 07-001. If you have already consented/objected, please disregard this notice. No judge will be informed of a party's response unless all parties have consented to the assignment of the matter to a U.S. Magistrate Judge. Unless consents from all parties are received within fifteen(15) days, the case will be randomly re-assigned to a U.S. District Judge without further notice.
Link to Magistrate Consent Objection form (blh) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 20 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga (blh) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 21 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/28/2016 22 NOTICE OF INITIAL PRETRIAL CONFERENCE: (Notice generated by IPT Clerk)
The Attorneys Planning Meeting Report and Proposed Scheduling Order forms, available on the court web site at http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/formpage.html, should be prepared 21 days before the Initial Pretrial Conference hearing date.

NOTICE TO COUNSEL, The Court may enter a scheduling order and vacate the hearing if counsel
(a) file a stipulated Attorneys Planning Meeting Report; and
(b) e-mail a Proposed Scheduling Order to ipt@utd.uscourts.gov
21 days before the scheduled hearing. See instructions at http://www.utd.uscourts.gov/documents/ipt.html

If counsel or the parties would like to participate by phone they must contact the IPT Clerk at least two days in advance at ipt@utd.uscourts.gov to make arrangements.

Initial Pretrial Conference set for 2/8/2017 at 11:00 AM in Rm 8.400 before Magistrate Judge Evelyn J. Furse. (jds) (Entered: 12/28/2016)
12/30/2016 23 RECEIVED Consent/Reassignment Form from Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 12/30/2016)
12/30/2016 24 JOINT STATEMENT OF PARTIES/ CONSENT to Jurisdiction by US Magistrate Judge under 28 U.S.C. 636(c) by Defendants James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga, Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (Attachments: # 1 Consent, # 2 Consent, # 3 Consent)(las) (Additional attachment(s) added on 1/5/2017: # 4 Signed Herbert, Reyes and Berg Consent) (las). (Entered: 12/30/2016)
01/09/2017 25 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (rks) (Entered: 01/11/2017)
01/13/2017 26 REPORT OF ATTORNEY PLANNING MEETING. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order [Proposed] Scheduling Order)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 01/13/2017)
01/20/2017 27 SCHEDULING ORDER: Initial Pretrial Hearing vacated. Amended Pleadings due by 8/31/2017. Joinder of Parties due by 9/29/2017. Fact Discovery due by 9/30/2017. Expert Discovery due by 1/15/2018. Motions due by 2/15/2018. Status Conference set for 2/22/2018 at 02:00 PM in Rm 7.100 before Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 1/9/2017. (las) (Entered: 01/20/2017)
01/23/2017 28 REPLY to Response to Motion re 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support of State Defendants' Motion to Dismiss filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 01/23/2017)
01/27/2017 29 RESPONSE to Motion re 21 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support , 11 MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support , 17 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support , 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 01/30/2017)
02/17/2017 30 REPLY to Response to Motion re 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 02/17/2017)
02/24/2017 31 DOCUMENT LODGED from plaintiff consisting of pleading incorrectly styled as a combined surreply and 'amended complaint' (no leave appears to have been granted to file either per FRCivP 15 or DUCivR 7-1(b)(2)(A)) (alt) (Entered: 02/28/2017)
03/06/2017 32 REQUEST to Submit for Decision re 18 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 03/06/2017)
04/19/2017 33 DOCKET TEXT ORDER finding as moot Plaintiff's Motion To Allow Proof Of Service 2 . All Defendants have filed a responsive pleading [11, 17, 18, 21], and there has been no challenge to the sufficiency of service. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 04/19/2017. (Entered: 04/19/2017)
04/21/2017 34 RULING AND ORDER - The court requests additional briefing on several issues. Consistent therewith, the Court Orders the following briefing schedule: Briefing On Plaintiffs Standing And The Ripeness Of The Claims *Plaintiffs Initial Brief Due: May 5, 2017. *Defendants Responsive Briefs Due: May 19, 2017.
Briefing On Facial vs. As-Applied Challenges *Defendants Initial Briefs Due: May 5, 2017. *Plaintiffs Responsive Brief Due: May 19, 2017. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 4/21/2017. (las) (Entered: 04/21/2017)
05/05/2017 35 Supplemental BRIEF In Support of Plaintiff's Standing and the Ripeness of the Claims filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 36 Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Facial and As-Applied Challenges BRIEF re 34 Order,, filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 37 Supplemental BRIEF re 36 Brief, 34 Order,, Re Facial vs. As-Applied Constitutional Challenges and Joinder in State Defendants' Supplemental Brief filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/05/2017 38 Supplemental BRIEF regarding Facial vs. As-Applied Constitutional Challenges and Joinder in State's Supplemental Memorandum filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 05/05/2017)
05/19/2017 39 RESPONSIVE SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF re 35 Brief, 34 Order,, filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1- Plaintiff's DBA registration)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 40 ERRATA to 39 Brief filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes . (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1- Plaintiff's DBA registration)(Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 41 Defendant's RESPONSE re 35 Brief, 34 Order,,,RE Standing and Ripeness filed by James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 42 Plaintiff's RESPONSE to Defendant's 36 Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Facial and As-Applied Challenges Brief per 34 Order, filed by Russell G. Greer. (jwt) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/19/2017 43 RESPONSIVE SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF re 35 Brief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Sarin, Neil) (Entered: 05/19/2017)
05/23/2017 44 MOTION to Amend Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 05/23/2017)
06/02/2017 45 RESPONSE to Motion re 44 MOTION to Amend/Correct Plaintiff's Motion for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 06/02/2017)
06/28/2017 46 RULING & ORDER -1. Within ten (10) days from the date of this Order, Plaintiff shall file a copy of his proposed amended complaint on the court docket as an Exhibit to his pending motion to amend; and2. Defendants shall have an additional ten (10) days after Plaintiff files a copy of his proposed pleading to respond and/or supplement their response (ECF No. 45) to Greers motion to amend. (ECF No. 44.) Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 6/28/2017. (las) (Entered: 06/28/2017)
07/10/2017 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 07/11/2017)
07/19/2017 48 Supplemental RESPONSE re 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint, filed by Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 07/19/2017)
08/11/2017 49 SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL Jacque M. Ramos replacing Neil R. Sarin as counsel on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Ramos, Jacque) (Entered: 08/11/2017)
08/15/2017 50 SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL David M. Quealy replacing Jacque M. Ramos as counsel on behalf of Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 08/15/2017)
08/17/2017 51 DOCKET TEXT ORDER. Plaintiff's motion for leave to supplement complaint along with Exhibits at 47 moots Plaintiff's same motion filed at 44 . Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 08/17/2017. No attached document. (amn) (Entered: 08/17/2017)
08/29/2017 52 RESPONSE to Motion re 47 MOTION for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 08/29/2017)
08/30/2017 53 ORDER granting in part and denying in part 47 Motion for Leave to File Supplemental Complaint; denying without prejudice as Moot 17 Motion to Dismiss ; denying without prejudice as Moot 18 Motion to Dismiss ; denying without prejudice as Moot 21 Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim. See Order for Details. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 8/30/2017. (las) (Entered: 08/30/2017)
08/31/2017 54 DOCKET TEXT ORDER. Pursuant to the court's order 53 , City Defendants' motion to dismiss 11 is denied without prejudice as moot. Signed by Magistrate Judge Dustin B. Pead on 08/31/2017. No attached document. (amn) (Entered: 08/31/2017)
09/12/2017 55 AMENDED COMPLAINT against James Allred, Kathy Berg, Jackie Biskupski, Sim S. Gill, Gary R. Herbert, Ben McAdams, Sean D. Reyes, Rolen Yoshinaga. filed by Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 09/12/2017)
09/26/2017 56 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 09/26/2017)
10/03/2017 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 58 ENTRY ERROR- MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiff's suppl filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) Modified on 10/3/2017 added error text (las). (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 59 Modification of Docket: re 58 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiff's suppl. Document filed in error. Motion has been terminated. (las) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/03/2017 60 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Supplemental Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 10/03/2017)
10/24/2017 61 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (jwt) (Entered: 10/25/2017)
11/07/2017 62 REPLY to Response to Motion re 57 Defendant's MOTION to Dismiss Supplemental Complaint filed by Defendants Kathy Berg, Gary R. Herbert, Sean D. Reyes. (Soderberg, Gregory) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/07/2017 63 REPLY to Response to Motion re 60 MOTION to Dismiss and Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Supplemental Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief filed by Defendants Sim S. Gill, Ben McAdams, Rolen Yoshinaga. (Quealy, David) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/07/2017 64 REQUEST to Submit for Decision re 56 Defendant's MOTION TO DISMISS FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants James Allred, Jackie Biskupski. (Brabson, Catherine) (Entered: 11/07/2017)
11/08/2017 65 RESPONSE and Memorandum in Opposition re 62 Reply Memorandum/Reply to Response to Motion. And Request for Hearing. filed by Russell G. Greer. (las) (Entered: 11/09/2017)

To me this was a whole bunch of TLDR. To sum up, what's happening? Why does this stuff take so long?
 
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To me this was a whole bunch of TLDR. To sum up, what's happening? Why does this stuff take so long?
When one party files something (like a complaint or a motion), the other party is given time to respond. Often, defendants will request time extensions so that they have longer to file their response. Also in this suit, Russell is suing several defendants and not only do they all have to file responses, they want extra time to do so. Then they're also trying to have Russell's case dismissed straight up (which I think is a successful endeavor, but what do I know, I'm just an attorney) and Russell will have to respond to those attempts as well explaining why his case should continue.
 
What a colossal waste of everyone's time and resources. Even if he did accomplish the impossible, he wouldn't be able to open his own brothel, and he'd be banned from any that opened in short order.

His delusional optimism is amusing though. If only I moved to Canada, I'd for sure be able to have a relationship with this person. Sure, every woman in the world I've met so far has rejected me, but all it would take is a move.

I hope that he is pinning just... an incredible amount of hope to this idea that he's going to get the State of Utah to legalize prostitution. I hope he lies awake at night, thinking about this brothel he's going to own and the sex he'll have. I hope that he believes he'll be famous, a Dennis Hof or Hugh Hefner type figure. I hope that is what he uses to console himself about the failure of his book.

Because.... I cannot *wait* for the moment of failure. The book failure is a series of moments, but this will happen at one time like the trials.
 
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