Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[theshep]

Also: that Mormon ideology is still very present in his thinking; ..... a likely secular, liberal pop star.

... and the non-alcoholic wine. That certainly goes down well with the liberals in Hollywood.

 

[DuckSucker]

He really wants to be famous

He blamed the guys that he paid to produce his song for Taylor Swift not accepting it, he would have sued them too if he could; he's the reason unsolicited policies exist. They would make his episode but change something, or it isnt heralded as the funniest and best Simpsons episode that is bringing Simpsons back, and he would start suing and harassing all of them.

He's still using that fucking one of his two royalty free upbeat songs for music in his fucking video; Some artist.

Two things: Russ seems to have adapted his entire narrative to Katy Perry now, precedent, money spent, seeing her help disabled people and all. He doesn't seem to care who the hot young starlet is, and would likely transfer the narrative to an equivalent pop star if he does get the results he's after.

Yeah he passes his shit off wholesale, just slapping a different name on it when it doesnt sell, and I will never stop mocking him for it.

Actually he put this song in his Taylor Swift book that he sends to the people that he then tries to say he "wrote" this song for. Maybe he pitched it up or sped it up, but it's kinda ironic; if he hopes they both read his book and listen to his song does he think they wont notice it's the same, or do you think he knows, deep down? It's hard to tell with this dude where he delusions end for him.

I have to imagine it would have basically none of the Simpsons in it except for an introduction and then it would be all self-insert (unironic) Russ. The A story would be about him wooing Taylor. He probably doesn't know what a B story is but if so... watch out Katy.

Nah the A story would be about his "kickass" story and how he's inspirational and special and overcoming his disability and he's amazing. He would spend at least 15 minutes talking about his disability and himself and make lame jokes or segues like "Oh I talk a little funny, well-slurp-it's not a cool story like a car wreck or a gunfight (are people impressed by stories like those? I think he thinks people find them inspirational, maybe like girls hand out pity fucks if you have enough tragedy points on your misery card) and Im not high or hungover but.....(we know, nobody would share with you, you would probably terrify someone who's tripping and I bet youre incredibly obnoxious when drunk)"

The B plot would be Taylor Swift and Katy Perry initially rejecting him for better looking, more successful, charismatic people who are actually 9s and 10s, but then something bad happens and they run away or act like weak, bad men, but he does something amazing and "traditionally masculine", brave and chivalrous, that nobody thinks he could do and he's so humble and cool about it and they all fall in love with him and Katy and Taylor get in a physical fight over him before he calms them down and says he would deign to have them both.

If they tried to change anything, he would sue because he has control issues on top of all his other issues.

 

[ConSluttant]

Two things: Russ seems to have adapted his entire narrative to Katy Perry now, precedent, money spent, seeing her help disabled people and all. He doesn't seem to care who the hot young starlet is, and would likely transfer the narrative to an equivalent pop star if he does get the results he's after.

Secondly, does Russ not get that flattery has negative connotations? It implies insincere praise to get something that the recipient would be otherwise unwilling to give, it suggests manipulation.

This is very Russ, seemingly: being a little "off" about meaning and connotation. Anyone else catch his slaughtering of bada boom bada bing, or calling Taylor's agents beavis and butthead? Like Chris, he seems to think everyone will see as he does.

Also: that Mormon ideology is still very present in his thinking; he can't drop the "by their fruits shall ye know them" bit, as if he doesn't get that an appeal to religious reference might not grease the wheels with a likely secular, liberal pop star.

Katy Perry's parents are evangelical Christians. I believe her father is a pastor. Katy got her start in the Christian music scene. She has heard more than one sermon about "by their fruits shall ye know them." If she ever comes across Russ' stuff, she will be able to read through them and see the underlying insincerity right away.

 

[Angry New Ager]

I'm late commenting on this, but it was in my multi-quote queue, and your questions bring up some important points, so I'll tackle it as best I can:

I have a ton to say about him, but this is a big one. Why does he think hes an artist, or want to be in the entertainment industry.

First of all, I think his primary intention behind all of this is to get some highly-desirable female superstar to have sex with him, as a form of validation. But I do think he also entertains grandiose fantasies about being in the music business and writing songs for those same female superstars--he wants to be able to put his words in their mouths.

This is classic Narcissistic grandiosity. Many Narcs won't admit their fantasies outright, but their fantasy lives are consumed by dreams of unlimited success, power, money, sexual and social desirability, fame, etc. And while some do have the talent and drive to actually achieve these things through their work (Hollywood is full of examples, as is Wall Street), there are plenty of Narcissists out there who have no talent, little skill, no self-discipline, no ability to utilize constructive criticism to become better, and are not charming and socially adept enough to get others to willingly help them. But they still harbor the same thirst for fame, adulation, attention, and to be seen as better than anybody else. They worship celebrities, and they long to be worshipped in the same way.

So it's no surprise Russell auditioned for America's Got Talent; plenty of untalented no-hopers do so because they see it as a sure path to the fame and attention they feel they deserve, that has so far eluded them.

And Russell, we can be certain, has seen more than his fair share of inspirational videos about people with disabilities who still managed to beat the odds, do something amazing, and receive acclaim for it. But rather than internalize the message of, "Hey, if they managed to overcome their own challenges to do that, I can definitely create a really good life for myself, even with this disability," he latched on to their elevated status as inspiring, admired role models and decided he wanted that. What they've done doesn't interest him; that others look up to them does. So he wants to be the inspiring, admired role-model everybody respects and adores--without having to actually do anything for it.

That he's so envious, to the point of rage, when disabled and terminally-ill people get visits or special treatment from his favorite celebrities is really at the heart of it, I think. He can't see that those people have much harder (or shorter) lives than he does, or it's irrelevant--they're not "deserving" like he is. He has no ability to empathize with those people. He sees them as unfairly taking up a resource that should be his, and would be if the celebrities acted fairly. He sees himself as far more deserving than any of them, because he took two years to write one stupid song, and spent $500 to get somebody to record it, and that should be his ticket to celebrity recognition, damn it.

Grandiosity, lack of empathy, feelings of entitlement and exemption--there's four major Narcissistic traits right there.

He really is a lost cause. Virtually all Narcissist are, but there's just a howling emptiness inside of him, a void where his soul ought to be, that can't be fixed.

...but he realizes artists have to work faster and harder than that, face way more scrutiny than he ever has, and cant throw a temper tantrum and quit if someone criticizes it or it doesnt get enough likes, right?

I don't think he realizes that at all. I think he's fixated on the idea of being a famous songwriter, without having a single flicker of understanding when it comes to what being a songwriter actually entails.

I've got a personal lolcow who is the same way about art; she doesn't comprehend what it actually takes to make a living as an artist, and she's objectively incompetent at art-making, but she's determined she's going to be a rich and famous artist one day. What she really wants is the riches, and the respect of all around her; she doesn't want to actually do the hard work of being an artist, day in and day out. And that's how Russell is with songwriting. He doesn't want to write songs, if he did, he'd already be doing it every day. He just wants the rewards that he associates with "being a celebrity songwriter."

You cannot be an artist, a celebrity, an entertainer or any kind of public figure and be as sensitive to criticism or negativity or just as sensitive and butthurt in general as he is.

Truth, man.

another profile picture from when he was in high school...this guy either doesn't have anyone to take another photo of him or the best time of his life was in high school...or both.

I suspect it's the only pic he's got of himself in which he's being a "musician."

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Seems to me he's always just waiting for the "right people" to see it and go "Well, you're disabled and you put in lots of effort, sooooo I guess we'll make an exception just for you..."

Yes and if a star (or, realistically, their PR people) make that exception for literally anyone else (i.e. a dying 12 year old girl), in any way, they must make exception for (and fuck) Russ or else it's actionable as misrepresentation\violation of the ADA\whatever he comes up with next.

I'm susprised he hasn't tried to misapply "the exception that proves the rule" as a legal concept in a court filing yet.

 

[ZeeMarin]

I wish his mustache didn’t look like long, curled nose hairs.
There are disabled people who became successful-Stevie Wonder would be the most obvious. But Russell isn’t appealing, talented, or deserving.

 

[Russtard]

"Made representations that you're a good person" Smells like a future Katy Perry lolsuit incoming!

 

[nemesisAF]

i remember Barton Fink being so insightful to me in showing the drudgery that can come with being a full time paid professional writer/artist. Some singers who started down one hit wonder alley? stick it out for years writing and sometimes finally get the steady pay (lauren christy/the matrix comes to mind) out of the limelight. Kevin Bacon, Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, and even Lindsey Lohan spent years on soaps. part of becoming recognized for your talent versus being, say, a kardasian is putting in the work even when it isnt fun or immediately rewarded. And RG wants it all just HANDED to him as some sort of disability reparations. life just doesn't work that way. put in the fucking work, RG, read about John Callahan if you want a REAL example of triumphing over disability and stop crying as if lie owes you a (blow up) dolly

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

i remember Barton Fink being so insightful to me in showing the drudgery that can come with being a full time paid professional writer/artist. Some singers who started down one hit wonder alley? stick it out for years writing and sometimes finally get the steady pay (lauren christy/the matrix comes to mind) out of the limelight. Kevin Bacon, Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, and even Lindsey Lohan spent years on soaps. part of becoming recognized for your talent versus being, say, a kardasian is putting in the work even when it isnt fun or immediately rewarded. And RG wants it all just HANDED to him as some sort of disability reparations. life just doesn't work that way. put in the fucking work, RG, read about John Callahan if you want a REAL example of triumphing over disability and stop crying as if lie owes you a (blow up) dolly

Absolutely, you have to pay your dues and get a decent education in music if you want it so badly. He has no songwriting skills; “(Whoever the Fuck) You Don’t...” is incomplete. It builds but then falls on it’s gimpy face because it lacks a hook-laden chorus. D- would not listen again.

 

[deadfool]

Absolutely, you have to pay your dues and get a decent education in music if you want it so badly. He has no songwriting skills; “(Whoever the Fuck) You Don’t...” is incomplete. It builds but then falls on it’s gimpy face because it lacks a hook-laden chorus. D- would not listen again.

That's one of the worst things about Russ, imo - the fact that he shows even an ounce of potential but has clearly squandered it. If he wasn't such a litigious sex pest, and actually invested time and effort into music like any normal musician would, he might actually be able to learn how to refine the musical inclination he apparently already has. He could learn how to write a proper song and play the piano correctly. Most musicians want some form of recognition, of course, but they're also perfectly content being local, jamming with friends or at gigs around town; and they never stop studying and growing because their passion lies in the music itself, and within themselves. Russ, on the other hand, does the bare minimum and expects to be rewarded for it, because his passion isn't actually music (or law, for that matter), it's fame and getting laid. How he gets there doesn't even really matter, as seen with him wanting to write a Simpsons episode and in his awful books and screenplays. Music is just a means to an end.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

i remember Barton Fink being so insightful to me in showing the drudgery that can come with being a full time paid professional writer/artist. Some singers who started down one hit wonder alley? stick it out for years writing and sometimes finally get the steady pay (lauren christy/the matrix comes to mind) out of the limelight. Kevin Bacon, Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, and even Lindsey Lohan spent years on soaps. part of becoming recognized for your talent versus being, say, a kardasian is putting in the work even when it isnt fun or immediately rewarded. And RG wants it all just HANDED to him as some sort of disability reparations. life just doesn't work that way. put in the fucking work, RG, read about John Callahan if you want a REAL example of triumphing over disability and stop crying as if lie owes you a (blow up) dolly

The irony is Russ has picked an industry where all the hard work and dedication in the world don’t mean jack shit or equal success. The arts in general (acting, music, visual art and writing) are fickle as fuck and depend on a strange mix of society’s tastes, the current zeitgeist, talent, creativity, exposure, dedication and pure luck.

Billion dollar movie and record companies lose gobs of money every year because even they, with all their connections, power and talented people can’t predict who or what will become a success. They simply gamble on who they believe might have the right combination of all those elements and pick more losers than winners, esp in the music industry.

If shitlips thinks effort, dedication and hard work should make him successful he should open a car wash, gutter cleaning service, snow removal, lawn care business, etc... there are many industries where the Christian work ethic would ensure success but the arts is definitely not one of them.

Edit: Not that Russ has shown any dedication or hard work. He thinks just saying something took weeks/years makes it almost true.

 

[Supreme Sundae]

I have a feeling that even though Russell knows he was trolled, he still believes on some level that the compliments that Allison paid him on behalf of KP somehow reflect her true feelings, or at any rate what ought to be her true feelings. So even though it was fake, in an emotional sense, to him, it wasn't. And so I'm not surprised that he says that his resolve to contact KP has only been strengthened.

Viridian: I am and acknowledge that I'm an awful person in many, many ways. Claiming the high moral ground is the last thing I'd do.

I agree with this due to the whole "Taylor Olivia" incident. If he does read this thread, he completely glossed over the fact that it was a Kiwi. He still acts like he did speak to someone really connected to Taylor Swift.

 

[Zombiefaceddwarf]

Back at the start of 2015,when Russell first started posting about sending his music to female celebrities and subsequently his disappointment over not receiving any response, a female FB friend asked Russ if he'd tried working with artists on a local level, writing music for local bands and performers etc. This female poster pointed out to Russ that this was how songwriters and musical composers tend to get started, putting in the work at a grass roots level and if successful, perhaps over time their talent and skill would be recognised at a higher level. Plus you'd have a portfolio of songs to share with people that weren't just blatant attempts at getting a particular celebrity's attention. She also pointed out to Russ, as he obviously enjoys playing piano and maybe has some talent there, then he could also perhaps join a local band as a keyboard player.

Russell's reply to these helpful suggestions was along the lines of "I don't have time for that", in response to which the female friend posted again asking what he meant.

Russ clarified saying all of that stuff would take too long and he didn't have that much time, as if he was up against some deadline. Hence the approach he'd chosen which he believed would allow him to break into the 'biz' and become immediately recognised and successful, by attracting the attention of a female celebrity.

Any further attempts to convince Russ that this approach was not the best way, or indeed the accepted way to achieve such success were met with the kind of stone faced (lol) response were familiar with Russ giving when he's not happy with people disagreeing with him or 'negging' him.

So we have Russell screeching about how he has so much talent and song writing ability that he could easily write a number one hit, but he has absolutely no evidence to support that. His soundcloud account contains only a handful songs written to attract the attention of numerous female celebrities. However all of that music has been produced by other artists and being honest isn't very good, which Russell has tried to explain away as being down to these other artists/producers ruining the musical works he sent them and not being able to read music, etc.

However, despite this he still chose to upload these productions to his soundcloud and holds them up as examples of his 'talent', countering any negative criticism with the excuse of, well, that's down to the fake/crappy producer. But being an instrumentalist, there would be nothing stopping Russ from investing in a relatively cheap digital input device to connect his keyboard to a computer, with which Russ could record his own tracks, perhaps supplemented with the addition of other musical instruments added to the mix via a simple software package to produce a library of works which could show us/the world the true scope of his claimed talent.

Amateur musicians all over the world work with similar low cost set ups to produce some amazing works, hence the soundcloud site which hosts some truly great music produced by these artists.

So I'd ask the question, where are your fruits Russ? Where are your works? Where is this evidence of you being such a talented musician and song writer / composer?

There is no evidence for any of this. The only effort we've seen you put in has been into reeeing and screeching and harassing these poor girls with your attempts to achieve immediate recognition, status and validation.

Well, well done. Since that female FB friend (who is now long gone) asked those questions at the start of 2015, you may not have had the time to devote to developing your musical skills, but instead you have spent the last two to three years doing things that have brought you to the attention of such a large, world-wide audience, but for all the wrong reasons.

 

[CWCissey]

At this point Russ should just admit he's fucking weird, use those dancing 'skills' and see if he can join a band by becoming their Bez.

 

[SwiftlyRuiningRussell]

Russ lost all credibility (not like he had any to begin with) when he refused to build any type of portfolio and go the wooing route instead. He tailored his songs to appeal to ONE person...the person he’s pitching his song to. Taylor, Katy, Ariana, Kylie, etc. That’s not how the *biz* works.

 

[CWCissey]

Taylor, Katy, Ariana, Kylie, etc. That’s not how the *biz* works.

I think Kylie's a bit too old for Danger Russ.

 

[CausticMinory]

I think Kylie liking a certain type of guy (read:Black Guys) that Russ never had a chance.

 

[DarkAlien]

That Allison saga... jfc
I put together some extracts of the emails, just shit that I noticed.

Russ and his views of the world:
"I like to believe that if one puts in 100 percent effort, their efforts she be rewarded."
"My dreams are difficult to reach because of my disability."
"I try to be a good person"

- No, that is not how the world works. Great people can live shitty lives and plenty of horrible humans have wonderful lives, life isn't fair.
It's sad and scary to think that this is Russ trying to be a good person. Also his disability doesn't impede success, if he collaborated with local bands, wrote songs for other people, not just fanboys wooing, he'd have better luck.

Nice try:
"Meet her or have something of equal value and equal consideration like taking her on a date, calling her, going to an awards show with her, etc."
"Like to a children’s hospital. So I guess this is my challenge for you: let me write a song for you and let’s see how much money we can raise for charity."

- Lol @ investing $500 on a bad song being of equal value as a date with KP or going to an awards show. Insane. Also, let's not pretend like he cares about sick children, fucker gets all jelly and upset when his celebrity fixation of the month goes to see sick kids. (see Kylie Jenner and cleft palate children post)

Signs he's gonna sue KP
"Similarly, I have relied on Katy’s stunts as subtle invitations."
"I guess I relied on those things as a form of precedent that you would be flattered by my story."

Straight up lol cringe:
"Russell Brand may have hurt you, but Russell Greer won’t."
"My presence is a present."

Classic Russlogic:
"If she’s wanting sexy pics of me, does that infer something happening after the show?"
- Yes, her personal assistant can mind read and guarantee he's getting his dick wet by Katy fucking Perry. It's terrifying that he'd even ask this question. I wonder how he would react if a female went to bed with him and changed her mind right before sex...

"They feel I should pursue more “realistic” routes like going to Law school."
- Holy hell, his family wants him to be an attorney and he doesn't want to? Isn't this his second wettest dream? (First one is playing footsie over dinner with a red lipped, braided, tearful, apologetic Taylor). Maybe they are offering it only if he backs down from his other stupid fixations, which he wont.

"I take anxiety medicine"
There's no fucking way he's on meds.

"Anyways, I only plan on bringing myself."
He's such an asshole that he wouldn't share this cool free experience with someone else, or he has no one that likes him enough to go.

Russ and the other fan:
Is there any way the other fan could not come? It sounded like a special “me and her” moment. And I’m being very polite. But I’m serious about the other fan. It lessens the effort I put in for her. What did he even do? It just doesn’t seem fair. Do you send him emails too?

-This was just fucking insane, In his mind, no one can ever put in more effort then him. Like those songs and books are master achievements. He had to pay to play, spending money ismt effort, it doesn't mean shit.

Last but not least, it was mind boggling to see him message 3, 4, 5 times a day, who in the hell does that? Its amazing that he doesnt realize how insane that can make you look. These are emails not texts, the etiquette isn't the same. Specially at like 2am. seems so manic, he's clearly not stable.

I don’t approve of poop-touching, misleading people, etc., but I think that “Alison” gave pretty decent advice in general. Too bad this guy is too far gone to taken any of it.[/QUOTE2

Actually there was some pretty gross and horrible stuff in there. Sounded like he had already or was about to ask for time off. Messing with his work or his money is kinda dickish. There was mention about a mother's unconditional love and straight up pointing out his birth mom kept the good kid and gave away the "broken one", kinda sick to point something out to that directly at him. Then the worse part, suggesting he throws his family in the wind for getting in the way of his dreams. Everyone fucking knows this dude is unhinged, encouraging him to blow off what little support he has left seems really low. Also it got him talking about how lonely he is and how he doesn't have a hood support system, great, now here I am feeling all dirty and sympathetic for the poor fucking shit. Luckily in 3 whole seconds it went away because I know he's despicable and has brought it upon itself, but still.

 

[SwiftlyRuiningRussell]

That Allison saga... jfc
I put together some extracts of the emails, just shit that I noticed.

Russ and his views of the world:
"I like to believe that if one puts in 100 percent effort, their efforts she be rewarded."
"My dreams are difficult to reach because of my disability."
"I try to be a good person"

- No, that is not how the world works. Great people can live shitty lives and plenty of horrible humans have wonderful lives, life isn't fair.
It's sad and scary to think that this is Russ trying to be a good person. Also his disability doesn't impede success, if he collaborated with local bands, wrote songs for other people, not just fanboys wooing, he'd have better luck.

Nice try:
"Meet her or have something of equal value and equal consideration like taking her on a date, calling her, going to an awards show with her, etc."
"Like to a children’s hospital. So I guess this is my challenge for you: let me write a song for you and let’s see how much money we can raise for charity."

- Lol @ investing $500 on a bad song being of equal value as a date with KP or going to an awards show. Insane. Also, let's not pretend like he cares about sick children, fucker gets all jelly and upset when his celebrity fixation of the month goes to see sick kids. (see Kylie Jenner and cleft palate children post)

Signs he's gonna sue KP
"Similarly, I have relied on Katy’s stunts as subtle invitations."
"I guess I relied on those things as a form of precedent that you would be flattered by my story."

Straight up lol cringe:
"Russell Brand may have hurt you, but Russell Greer won’t."
"My presence is a present."

Classic Russlogic:
"If she’s wanting sexy pics of me, does that infer something happening after the show?"
- Yes, her personal assistant can mind read and guarantee he's getting his dick wet by Katy fucking Perry. It's terrifying that he'd even ask this question. I wonder how he would react if a female went to bed with him and changed her mind right before sex...

"They feel I should pursue more “realistic” routes like going to Law school."
- Holy hell, his family wants him to be an attorney and he doesn't want to? Isn't this his second wettest dream? (First one is playing footsie over dinner with a red lipped, braided, tearful, apologetic Taylor). Maybe they are offering it only if he backs down from his other stupid fixations, which he wont.

"I take anxiety medicine"
There's no fucking way he's on meds.

"Anyways, I only plan on bringing myself."
He's such an asshole that he wouldn't share this cool free experience with someone else, or he has no one that likes him enough to go.

Russ and the other fan:
Is there any way the other fan could not come? It sounded like a special “me and her” moment. And I’m being very polite. But I’m serious about the other fan. It lessens the effort I put in for her. What did he even do? It just doesn’t seem fair. Do you send him emails too?

-This was just fucking insane, In his mind, no one can ever put in more effort then him. Like those songs and books are master achievements. He had to pay to play, spending money ismt effort, it doesn't mean shit.

Last but not least, it was mind boggling to see him message 3, 4, 5 times a day, who in the hell does that? Its amazing that he doesnt realize how insane that can make you look. These are emails not texts, the etiquette isn't the same. Specially at like 2am.seems so manic, he's clearly not stable.

My favorite part is “I try to donate to animal shelters.”

TRY??? Donating is a black and white thing. No room for grey areas. You donate or you don’t. Simple as that. We all know he only gives money to producers, sex workers, nonalcoholic bubbly & cheap flowers.

I wish one of the music producers he’s worked with would come on here and share their insight. Imagine the stories they have.

 

[uglytroll4u]

Signs he's gonna sue KP
"Similarly, I have relied on Katy’s stunts as subtle invitations."

Ok when I say "Katy, you in danger", I say it because of statements like the one I quoted.

Once Again, I'll bring our friend Gavin de Becker to the table, so he can tell you about the "signs". This is taken from this interview he gave in 1990

http://people.com/archive/when-fans...-security-expert-gavin-de-becker-vol-33-no-6/

How does that obsession turn to violence?

Consider the case of Michael Perry. A Louisiana man, he was an escapee from a mental institution when he began stalking my client [Olivia Newton-John]. He wrote two letters to her saying he wanted to prove to himself that she was real and not just a “Disneyland mirror image.” Somehow he convinced himself that she was responsible for dead bodies rising through the floor of his home. He developed an obsession involving my client’s eyes and was convinced they had changed colors as a signal to him

Probably not the same type pf signal, but Russhole is already imagining that Katy operates in a certain way to lure him, and that shit is fucking scary.