Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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lol, I nearly forgot Kate Leth existed. Looked and it looks like she deleted this tweet.
 
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krautkid said:
They were all falling over themselves to throw Stan Lee under the bus regardless of bogus charges.
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It's going to blow up in their faces if they continue until he eventually does pass. Talking shit about Stan is a good way to be alienated from most people interested in comics or their adaptations. The only other people who do that is hardcore Jack Kirby fanboys who believe Stan never contributed anything and considering how old Kirby stuff is/his writing, not the kind of people you'd catch being interested in nu-Marvel. Normies especially are turned off by it.
 
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The only thing more disgusting than their behavior, is the oily way they'll try to back out of it when they realize that they are just the latest fad in society, and still talk up about what wonderful progressive people they were who never made a single comic, but spread so... much... AWARENESS!!!!
 
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RockVolnutt said:
It's going to blow up in their faces if they continue until he eventually does pass. Talking shit about Stan is a good way to be alienated from most people interested in comics or their adaptations. The only other people who do that is hardcore Jack Kirby fanboys who believe Stan never contributed anything and considering how old Kirby stuff is/his writing, not the kind of people you'd catch being interested in nu-Marvel. Normies especially are turned off by it.
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It's a turn off to anybody with common sense. That article spouting off about "age isn't an excuse!!!" was especially irritating because, yes, age is an excuse if you have some form of dementia, which I'm sure Stan Lee does.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Disney has yet to properly take charge of their comics division, and it's entirely possible they will quite soon. In the same way they did over EA and the Star Wars debacle. It'll come very quickly, very brutally and people will still be dusting themselves down wondering what the fuck happened.
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Frankly, Disney doesn't give a shit about Marvel as a comics company. They only give a shit when it comes to Marvel Studios -which was pretty much the sole reason they acquired the company in the first place-, IP farming, and the money said movies make.

They only gave a shit about the Battlefront II debacle, because they had a tentpole movie weeks away from release, Battlefront II was arguably the biggest multiplatform AAA game release this Winter, and the fact several states -not some disgruntled fans, but actual state governments- were threatening lawsuits was shaping up to be a perfect bad PR storm. Disney finally did what people wanted to do to EA for years -decades, even- and slapped down their shit in the most glorious way possible. And despite that high profile public humiliation, EA still wants to put microtransactions in the game eventually.

Disney will only slap Marvel's shit down if something on the scale of Battlefront II happens again. A few slapfights on Twitter and maybe a few cancellations isn't on the same level as Battlefront II, no matter how hard reactionaries like D&C or Bleeding Cool REEEEE.
 
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Debrotherized Luigi said:
Disney will only slap Marvel's shit down if something on the scale of Battlefront II happens again. A few slapfights on Twitter and maybe a few cancellations isn't on the same level as Battlefront II, no matter how hard reactionaries like D&C or Bleeding Cool REEEEE.
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Disney's attitude always seeps in eventually. We've seen this with every single company it's brought under its banner. It might take years, decades even but eventually the first people they appointed move on, retire, even die, and then it's up to the Mouse who they want to see in the big chair.

I'm sure the massive slap down of EA is probably making them quietly rethink their current policy of farming out their precious IPs on license and wether they should get back into the gaming industry independently too.
 
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Ponderous Pillock said:
Disney's attitude always seeps in eventually. We've seen this with every single company it's brought under its banner. It might take years, decades even but eventually the first people they appointed move on, retire, even die, and then it's up to the Mouse who they want to see in the big chair.

I'm sure the massive slap down of EA is probably making them quietly rethink their current policy of farming out their precious IPs on license and wether they should get back into the gaming industry independently too.
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You could argue that Disney's already stepped in with the new CEO, who's proceeded to cancel many of the comics created by the blue-haired monsters. It's pretty clear that the pros of owning the rights to Marvel vastly outweighs the cons, but likewise I doubt Disney will tolerate having a total white elephant on their books and want it to be at the very least stable and not haemorrhaging money.

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i'm starting to think pro-comicsgate is the bigger cow here
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I think they're both huge cows in different ways. Pro-comicsgate are way too ivnested in comics and REEEE over anything they don't like happening. Equally, the comic artists are narcissists who like to throw tantrums when things are anything less than perfect.
 
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It's a situation that'd be very easy for Disney to fix, even just not to waste money. Digital sales are a thing so they might get more into webcomic style marketing. Most of the cost revolves around printing in color (that's why they cost so much and have so few pages compared to greyscale mangas with 5 times the amount of pages); digital keeps off that burden, and if some comics get popular enough they might get printed. Digital comics is a very small business but it's alive and well. Why kill it when you can get a few bucks, and even more material for your movies
 
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Debrotherized Luigi said:
Frankly, Disney doesn't give a shit about Marvel as a comics company. They only give a shit when it comes to Marvel Studios -which was pretty much the sole reason they acquired the company in the first place-, IP farming, and the money said movies make.

They only gave a shit about the Battlefront II debacle, because they had a tentpole movie weeks away from release, Battlefront II was arguably the biggest multiplatform AAA game release this Winter, and the fact several states -not some disgruntled fans, but actual state governments- were threatening lawsuits was shaping up to be a perfect bad PR storm. Disney finally did what people wanted to do to EA for years -decades, even- and slapped down their shit in the most glorious way possible. And despite that high profile public humiliation, EA still wants to put microtransactions in the game eventually.

Disney will only slap Marvel's shit down if something on the scale of Battlefront II happens again. A few slapfights on Twitter and maybe a few cancellations isn't on the same level as Battlefront II, no matter how hard reactionaries like D&C or Bleeding Cool REEEEE.
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With Infinity War right around the corner, and Legacy being panned by many as a disappointment (though I enjoy it), that just might happen soon.
The problem is not “diversity” as many people say. The problem is Marvel’s lack of good writers. Most often, they’re hit and miss writers, like Aaron and Slott. What they need is writers who hit the mark far more.
Ms. Marvel isn’t horrible, she just needs better, more Spider-Man level villains. Riri’s origin could have worked if she was a likable character. Jane Foster Thor is a hit and miss, about 60% miss, but the story going over the origin of Mjolnir was cool, and the build up to her death is good. I love Doctor Strange and the current ark of Strange taking the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme back from Loki.
But Venom is currently the best Marvel comic book series to grab. Irconic considering it stars a stars a straight white male.
 
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CatParty said:
i'm starting to think pro-comicsgate is the bigger cow here
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Eh, both sides are cows in their own ways.

I'm starting to become very grateful these buffoons outright ignore indie comics (and no, I'm not talking about Image or Dark Horse; the former is too mainstream now thanks to Walking Dead and the latter has become a glorified publishing house for Nintendo art books outside of Hellboy & BRPD, which are the only two books they're known for after they lost the Star Wars license). Sure, you have horseshit like 'Calexit' (which never got past the first issue, lel), but for every one Calexit, you have stuff like Love & Rockets, Bone, Megg, Mogg, & Owl, anything by Daniel Clowes, the classic Will Eisner stuff (Fagin the Jew, A Contract with God, The Spirit)... pretty much anything put out by Fantagraphics, Top Shelf, and Drawn & Quarterly.

I think both sides just glom onto DC and Marvel because they're known quantities and normie pleb tier capeshit that doesn't challenge their worldviews the way some indie comics do.
 
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